how much cost to run a RADIO ?

[Xen-G]

since "radios" activated whithin entropia I would like how much cost to run them?
How much they pay for the music/song rights to the artist/corps etc ?


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Unless 11.1 brought radios into the game, there are none.

Are you referring to the streaming content at places like CND?

-or-

Are you referring to the internet radio stations run by fans outside the game? (The most notable of which is Atlas Haven Radio).

yes i think about player's shoutcast, internet radios

 

[AlphaGeek]

Unless 11.1 brought radios into the game, there are none.

Are you referring to the streaming content at places like CND?

-or-

Are you referring to the internet radio stations run by fans outside the game? (The most notable of which is Atlas Haven Radio).

 

[Legion]

if your talking about the ones outside eu then you can set one up for free via shoutcast for example

 

[mastermesh]

http://www.planetcalypso.com/opportunities/estate-development/

Live streaming with music of your choice – 25,000 PED

If you go to the Neverdie bank, you see a little horn thingy that's sending out the CND Live stream. I think that's what you'd get for the 25k... BUT... when you look at the operate part of that thingy, even though you can't operate it unless you are Neverdie, or Neverdie's second avatar - Banker Banker Manager, if I remember the name?... you can see that it allows any stream url to be entered... probably only a matter of time before copyright issues crop up... I don't think anyone's bought one of those fancy 25k ped horns other than Neverdie so far.

 

[Stave]

this post from 711 might be of intrest to you:

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/2374945-post25.html

 

[Xen-G]

Unless 11.1 brought radios into the game, there are none.

Are you referring to the streaming content at places like CND?

-or-

Are you referring to the internet radio stations run by fans outside the game? (The most notable of which is Atlas Haven Radio).

yes i think about player's shoutcast, internet radios

 

[mastermesh]

Also, the speculations in this thread (and even in the thread title: "radio within EU") that anything that happens on EntropiaRadio could reflect badly on MindArk or FPC are ridiculous.

https://account.entropiauniverse.com/legal/eula.xml

The Entropia Universe and the Entropia Universe System, including, but not limited to, computer code, text, graphics, audio files, logotypes, button icons, images, characters, items, concepts, data compilation and software, is the property of or controlled or licensed by or to MindArk and/or MindArk’s Planet Partner(s) and protected by Swedish and international intellectual property rights laws.

MindArk®, MindArk PE™, Project Entropia™, Entropia Universe®, Mindbank®, Entropia Platform™ and other names and marks indicated in Entropia Universe and/or on MindArk’s and Entropia Universe’s websites (at www.mindark.com and at www.entropiauniverse.com) are trademarks of MindArk. Any Entropia Universe and/or MindArk design and any other, graphics, logotypes or icons that appear in Entropia Universe and/or on MindArk’s and Entropia Universe’s websites are trademarks of MindArk and/or respective MindArk’s Planet Partner(s).

Could be argued that EntropiaRadio uses at least some of the " images, characters, items, concepts," but that's something between MA|FPC and 711. If you wanted to start an out of game radio station similar to Entropiaradio, you'd have similar issues to deal with, or ignore and hope you don't get sued... Have fun.

 

[Xen-G]

this post from 711 might be of intrest to you:

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/2374945-post25.html

tnx ,i readed it but as see there 711 tell :

EntropiaRadio is in no way related to either MindArk PE AB, First Planet Company AB, or Entropia Universe. It is a privately owned website/internet radio station.

my question how much cost ~ /month to pay copyrights for music in a soutcast radio ( ofc out of entropia non ingame just a streamed what can listen whith any streamplayer, maybe the radios whos "talented" by entropia : atlasheaven-jamhot-mindstar ( these in the entropia loader maybe some other exist )

 

[Xen-G]

atm just asking . . .

https://account.entropiauniverse.com/legal/eula.xml


Could be argued that EntropiaRadio uses at least some of the " images, characters, items, concepts," but that's something between MA|FPC and 711. If you wanted to start an out of game radio station similar to Entropiaradio, you'd have similar issues to deal with, or ignore and hope you don't get sued... Have fun.

as anyone can know my english lil if i wanna start a self/gamer radio will do my primary lang. , i just to know ~ how much cost the monthly COPYRIGHTs fees, not the technical to run a shoutcast radio/streem
+ if i make any kind radio will use better style/format not what these radios use( once listened them but they different from my style , I stay my favorite net/shoutcast radios while gaming wont waste net/broadband/ bits&bytes

fees for MUSIC only not see what images/desing use the eu player's radios

 

[AlphaGeek]

There have been other discussions on this subject here on EF.

If you look at posts by 711 with "radio" in them, I believe you'll find some information regarding licensing, copyrighted material, intellectual property, and fees.

Don't worry about your command of English. If someone doesn't understand your question, they will ask you to clarify.

 

[mastermesh]

my question how much cost ~ /month to pay copyrights for music in a soutcast radio ( ofc out of entropia non ingame just a streamed what can listen whith any streamplayer, maybe the radios whos "talented" by entropia : atlasheaven-jamhot-mindstar ( these in the entropia loader maybe some other exist )

Make your own tunes, new stories, etc. or use public domain/open source music stuff and it'll be free! There's literally tons of public domain stuff out there that a lot of people completely ignore or don't care about... a radio station that hones in on that stuff could have potential?

 

[Xen-G]

music will not problem to me if i would make a radio

Make your own tunes, new stories, etc. or use public domain/open source music stuff and it'll be free! There's literally tons of public domain stuff out there that a lot of people completely ignore or don't care about... a radio station that hones in on that stuff could have potential?

yes if i make a radio in the future will use osm ~, + ask artist be fore use their music

I read now https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/general-discussion/184431-abusive-words-local-chat.html when a ahr "dj" ppl send abuse case to MA because HE spammed in entropia but someone told him "whith nice words" stop SPAMing, this "dj" think his SPSMMIng righr but if someone say stop he send s upport case .. interest from Ur post https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/2372157-post13.html

All that aside, I've asked some AHR people before, but never got many responses that actually answered this - Are you guys getting permission from the copyright owners of the songs you play before you play them on your radio station?!? If not, why not? If you don't think you need to, why not? No one seems to be able to answer that directly... Why is that?

I just would to know ~ how much the existing radios pay ( because when i listened them a lil they used commercial songs ) & wondering they can pay hunting + music for their radios
maybe they can give me some tip how can hunt whith my old opalo to after some months can do lil thing as they do

 

[Stave]

contact 711 via pm and you might get a answer to your question

If anyone has any further questions on this issue, feel free to contact me via private message.

 

[Oleg]

Licenses will vary depending on where you live. For information on how to get a license and how much it will cost you, I suggest talking to your local Performing Rights Organisation. These are the people who administer licensing and royalty payments for music.

In Hungary the PRO is Artisjus: http://www.artisjus.hu/

If they aren't the right people, I'm sure they will be able to point you in the right direction.

 

[Xen-G]

Licenses will vary depending on where you live. For information on how to get a license and how much it will cost you, I suggest talking to your local Performing Rights Organisation. These are the people who administer licensing and royalty payments for music.

In Hungary the PRO is Artisjus: http://www.artisjus.hu/

If they aren't the right people, I'm sure they will be able to point you in the right direction.

i find that site & found the internet radio section but there some modification things ( depend s on how much % the music for the full "radiotime" etc etc

as i said if i wanna start a radio any kind of theme ( style info/gamer etc) maybe will use self made/opensource musics

just I interert ~ how much cost / montly the right from-till example : daily12hour online 1$-6$ , 24 hours online 2-16$
these fees only for non open/self music

 

[mastermesh]

http://www.inquisitr.com/28543/new-internet-radio-fees-will-kill-innovation/ - pricey "official" way

http://radio.about.com/library/weekly/aa052403a.htm
http://www.google.com/search?q=p2p+...-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

- just one of many p2p type of systems like the one in shoutcast already mentioned.. Problem with this though is if you are not paying the royalties for the songs you play, someone can come along later and sue you. However, as mentioned, making your own stuff means you have 100% of the copyright to it, so then you are in the clear. Grab a midi keyboard, learn to sing, or do a newscast, and off you go.

Desperatly want some tunes.. Make sure to get permission, pay the royalties you need to or go some other method, such as Royalty free... http://www.google.com/search?q=roya...-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

Public domain works too http://www.google.com/search?q=publ...-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

Got a lot of open air time... Why not have someone read a book to your listeners...
http://librivox.org/ - they claim that the recordings are released to public domain at librivox, but that does not mean it's 100% court official that one of the readers won't come after you in a few years with a lawsuit if they are jerks...

Anything created in 1922 or before can be considered public domain... that's just the general rule of thumb. Newer stuff can be sometimes... at least here in the U.S... Similarly almost anything created by the U.S. Government is up for grabs since its the taxpayers money that made it. That's why people are free to do interesting and silly things with the president's speeches all over the interent.

Public domain stuff boring... REMIX IT! Speed it up, slow it down, layer several songs on top of one another... take beats from one song and put them on another... mix it with your own voice recordings. Throw in some drum beats from your midi keyboard on top... Make it your own. Be creative, and make something we'll want to listen to. Stuff that's truly in the public domain has NO COPYRIGHTS on it, so it's yours to play with as you please!..

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