Hunting log: feffoids

mephy

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Max mephy Gordon
Hello and welcome!

my setup:
maturity: outcast to raider
weapon: Isis CB19 (L) + beast
armor: Pixie set
fap: Hedoc SK20(L)
ammo run: 650ped (~400 peds ammo, ~250 peds beast+cb19)
loot selling policy: everything with MU higher 102%

skills:
blp rifle (hit): 28
Ranged blp (dmg): 26
Laser pistol (hit): 11
Laser pistol (dmg): 12
Evader: 5
Paramedic: 7

Run 1: TT return +255, with MU +265, total: +265
Run 2: TT return -115, with MU -71, total +194
Run 3: TT return -66, with MU -14 (ESI :)), total +180
Run 4: TT return -159, with MU -131, total +49
Run 5: TT return -86, with MU -17 (ESI again :)), total +32
Run 6: TT return -297, with MU -288, total -256 :mad:
Run 7: TT return +21, with MU +24, total -232
Run 8: TT return -59, with MU -52, total -284
Run 9: TT return -44, with MU -13, total -297
Run 10: TT return +48, with MU +65, total -232
Run 11: TT return -137, with MU -130, total -362
Run 12: TT return -78, with MU -60, total -422
Run 13: TT return -104, with MU -92, total -514
Run 14: TT return -60, with MU -52, total -566
Run 15: TT return: +16 with MU: +48 total: -518
Run 16: TT return: -102 with MU: -84 total: -602 :scratch2:
Run 17: TT return: -191 with MU: -179 total: -781 :mad: :bomb:
Run 18: TT return: -47 with MU: -39 total: -820
Run 19: TT return: -87 with MU: -72 total: -892
Run 20: TT return +20, with MU +145, total -747 2 ESIs :)
Run 21: TT return +85, with MU +95, total -652 :)
Run 22: TT return: -160 with MU: -138 total: -790
Run 23: TT return: -71 with MU: -52 total: -842
Run 24: TT return: -105 with MU: -93 total: -935
Run 25: TT return: -42 with MU: -23 total: -958
Run 26: TT return: -204 with MU: -196 total: -1154
Run 27: TT return: +8 with MU: +27 total: -1127
Run 28: TT return: -54 with MU: -4 total: -1131
Run 29: TT return:+191with MU: +214 total: -917
----made a break, hunted formidons ~85% return, ~8k ped spent-----------------
----switched ro stronger feffs (guard-champ)-+-bought CB19 UL-------------
Run 31: TT return: +312 with MU: +353 total: -489 (guess this is drones PEDs).
Run 32: TT return: +10 with MU: +26 total: -463
Run 33: TT return: -181 with MU: -169 total: -632
Run 34: TT return: -176 with MU: -162 total: -794
Run 35: TT return: -206 with MU: -196 total: -990
Run 36: TT return: -190 with MU: -167 total: -1157
Run 37: TT return: -145 with MU: -128 total: -1285
Run 38: TT return: -65 with MU: -29 total: -1314
Run 39: TT return: -179 with MU: -169 total: -1483
Run 40: TT return: -107 with MU: -79 total: -1562
Run 41: TT return: -142 with MU: -121 total: -1683
-----changed spawn to previous (feffs outcast-guard), armor - Kobold w/o plates--------
Run 42: TT return: +76 with MU: +111 total: -1582
-----weapon- H400(L) + A104------------------------------------------------------------------
Run 43: TT return: -2 with MU: +34 total: -1548
Run 44: TT return: -100 with MU: -87 total: -1635
-----weapon H400(L) + A105-------------------------------------------------------------------
Run 45: TT return: -35 with MU: -7 total: -1642
Run 46: TT return: -237 with MU: -219 total: -1861
Run 47: TT return: +219 with MU: +245 total: -1616 HoF 293 :)
Run 48: TT return: -239 with MU: -224 total: -1840
----somewhere here hunt lengh reduced to 450 ped (2xA105)-----------------------------
Run 49: TT return: +27 with MU: +48 total: -1792
Run 50: TT return: -162 with MU: -142 total: -1934
Run 51: TT return: +18 with MU: +99 total: -1835 ESI! :smoke:
Run 52: TT return: +4 with MU: +21 total: -1814
-------MM has started------------------------------------------------------------
Run 53: TT return: -191 with MU: -184 total: -2005
Run 54: TT return: -63 with MU: -47 total: -2052
-------weapon H21 Scrof (L) (even more eco than p5a)--MM has ended-------------------
Run 55: TT return: +123 with MU: +152 total: -2000 Korss :)
Run 56: TT return: -71 with MU: -59 total: -2059
Run 57: TT return: -30 with MU: -20 total: -2079
Run 58: TT return: -151 with MU: -139 total: -2218
Run 59: TT return: -101 with MU: -95 total: -2313
Run 60: TT return: -71 with MU: -61 total: -2374
Run 61: TT return: -84 with MU: -70 total: -2444
Run 62: TT return: -55 with MU: -44 total: -2488
Run 63: TT return: -93 with MU: -78 total: -2566
Run 64: TT return: -47 with MU: -39 total: -2605
---------weapon p5a (L)----just to try it----------------------------------------------------------
Run 65: TT return: -109 with MU: -102 total: -2707
---------little break on mining, 400 ped cycled, ~80% return with MU :(-----------------------
Run 66: TT return: +10 with MU: +49 total: -2658 Korss :)
Run 67: TT return: -86 with MU: -74 total: -2732
Run 68: TT return: +24 with MU: +27 total: -2705
Run 69: TT return: +3 with MU: +16 total: -2689
Run 70: TT return: -32 with MU: -15 total: -2704
Run 71: TT return: -100 with MU: -90 total: -2794
Run 72: TT return: -113 with MU: -106 total: -2900
Run 73: TT return: -81 with MU: -67 total: -2967
Run 74: TT return: -20 with MU: -2 total: -2969
Run 75: TT return: -184 with MU: -177 total: -3142

Run 76: TT return: -74 with MU: -55 total: -3197
Run 77: TT return: -107 with MU: -96 total: -3293
Run 78: TT return: 0 with MU: +13 total: -3280
Run 79: TT return: +133 with MU: +158 total: -3122 Korss :)
Run 80: TT return: -82 with MU: -69 total: -3191
Run 81: TT return: -41 with MU: -12 total: -3203 Korss :)
Run 82: TT return: -104 with MU: -82 total: -3285 Korss :)

COMPLETED!

OVERALL:
Spent: 41500 ped (23k with cb19, 18.5k with P5a)
Return TT: 36550 ped
Ratio w/o MU: 88.1% (89.5% with cb19, 87.5% with P5a!)
ratio with MU: 91.8%
feffs average loot markup: 104.4%
ESIs looted: 5 (~10 ped TT avg)
Korss H400 (L) looted: 16 (~110 ped TT avg)
Isis LR32 (L) looted:1 (big feffs)
HoFs: 1 - 293
Profit/Loss: -3285 ped

Skills gained:
~60 Ped tt athletics - 850 ped with MU
other skills - 1450 ped with MU

Profit/Loss with skills: -985 ped

skills:
blp rifle (hit): 34
Ranged blp (dmg): 33
Laser pistol (hit): 28
Laser pistol (dmg): 29
Evader: 14
Paramedic: 11

Notes:
0) Its took me 6 months! Cant believe its over ^_^

1) Not very impressed with results - think they could be better. Very strange TT returns with cb19 and P5a - pistol is 4% more eco, but loot dont :mad:
2) Next stage - argo or molisks. Looking for gear & spots & advices )))
3) Should make more detailed statistics next time
- armor/fap costs (calculated only with fap broken - cant build evade efficiency curve now)
- calculate MU after selling like noiseless (counted it multipling TT*avg MU - not accurate!)

4) Armor+heal tests (every test = 700 ped run):
1. Kobold + Sk-20 + CB19 + Beast = 4,18 (no fap decoy)
2. Pixie + Sk-20 + H400 + A104 = 1,99 + 3,92 (w/o MU) = 5,91 (~6,4 w MU)
3. Kobold + Sk-20 + H400 + A104 = 5,52 (no fap decoy)
4. Pixie + 3B + Sk-20 + H400 + A104 = 2,19+2,94 = 5,13 w MU <--- using this preset

Rifle / Pistol / Amps tests:
1. H400 (L) @ 117% + A104 vs CB19 UL + beast
dmg/pec: 2.926 vs 2.856 (according entropeia.info)
peds to kill 8000 feffs: 21872 peds vs 22409 peds
estimated armor+fap decoy: 192 peds vs 128 peds
summary: 22065 peds vs 22537 peds
2. Breer p5a @ 106.5% + A104 vs H400 (L) @ 117% + A104
will write it later, breer is slightly better
3. A103 vs A104
A104 is better on loooong distances (over 12k feffs), bought it thou, afraid of feffs regen

5)
PEDs to kill with CB19 + beast: 2.52 (evade ~5)
PEDs to kill with P5a + A105: 2.26! (evade ~8)
 
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That is not to much of a loss, Started out goodish
 
fck them all, dude! good luck with that! :tux:
 
Hi,

good effort so far!

Try to get together a set of Kobold armor, will help you alot i think.



Cheers,

Perry
 
have it
feffs hit me seldom, seeing no point in other armor.
+ lower decoy + fap skill )

but thx )
 
I am killing some feffs as well. My pace is a bit lower, i am expected to finish the iron quest in about 4 years time ;)

Good luck to you, I'll keep an eye on this thread.
 
Good luck, hope you will make it to 16.6k kills...

P.S. the feff loot did die when VU10 come :(
 
P.S. the feff loot did die when VU10 come :(

What was happened after VU10?
I've started playing in august 2010 (VU11). Heard lots of times "loot gone bad after VU10" phrase.
Did they lowered the loot to make hofs bigger?
 
What was happened after VU10?
I've started playing in august 2010 (VU11). Heard lots of times "loot gone bad after VU10" phrase.
Did they lowered the loot to make hofs bigger?

Dont know what MA did whit the feffoid when we did go over to VU10, but the loot did change. Drop off H400 did go down to 1 in 4-5 globlas (I dont remeber when I did start hunt feffoid, but it was along time ago) Before VU10 the drop off H400 was 1 in 2-3 globals. Dont have any writen down data on this, but have alot off pics that shows when H400 is in loot (did stop take pic somethime in VU9, was to many and no point in them).
Before VU10 I did a avg about 950ped in feffoid everyday. I did stand for 5-15% off the TT sold off H400 everyday. Under the Iron mission, I was lucky if I got a H400 every secound or third runt (a run from 600-850ped). If they are over hunted or this is the price becouse the big feff spawn did come I dont know.

I have done the 16.6k feffoid in the mission, have 600 feffoid globlas on the tracker, and many more before tracker did come. So I have hunted feffoid alot so it's not just based on 2-5 hunts...
 
Feffoid loot has been real bad last month for me too. But no, its not about VU10.
 
what I got in globals from the big feffs west from Aegis Mound was mostly martial harness M/F, t-bird helmet and arms ofc.. and korss.. no big oil stacks at all.. just L items.. I did get one or two of those laser rifles that cost about 115% aswell.. but mostly korss when it comes to weapons.. and a 82 ped esi :)
 
Gratz :yay:


Just curious dont feffs have high regen? If so it could be why your returns were lower than expected because you are spending alot more peds in hp.

Fred
 
Nice work on completing the challenge and thanks for the log info :)
 
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