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I'm currently using a Castorian Enblade 1 and my skills are around 300, wondering what the next longblade i should buy is? Any suggestions?
 
toorged said:
I'm currently using a Castorian Enblade 1 and my skills are around 300, wondering what the next longblade i should buy is? Any suggestions?


tt it and buy the new tt-enblade or get an 1x0 axe. now. ;)
 
toorged said:
I'm currently using a Castorian Enblade 1 and my skills are around 300, wondering what the next longblade i should buy is? Any suggestions?

To be quite honest, I'd recommend moving away from Longblades. Axes got rendered virtually useless after they got nerfed. They used to have decent economy, but after the nerf I found them to end up costing far more than I would get back.

So I switched to a Katuschi Honor. That also turned out to be quite the ped drainer, and I estimate skilling with the Honor for about 2-3 weeks set me back about 100 USD per week.

I'm real sorry to say, but I do believe for the mid-level player who is stuck inbetween an Axe and the Katuschi series, there just is no decent substitute. I won an Enblade 4 ME, but that while that had okay damage, it boosted a horrible reload, and similar decay to the Honor.

If anybody knows any better and more economical LB weapon at ~3.6k in LB, than by all means, prove me wrong. I spent too much time skilling up to just let it go, but using LB has become something I only use in dire need, rather than something I enjoy wielding.
 
Thanks for the insight VF but I'm still in limbo which way to do. Your post although informative, didn't give me an honest opinion on which longblade, (if i choose to stay on that path) i should go with. Don't take that as being impolite, I guess the water is still foggy. The last person said i should sell my enblade and go with the TT shortblade.
 
toorged said:
Thanks for the insight VF but I'm still in limbo which way to do. Your post although informative, didn't give me an honest opinion on which longblade, (if i choose to stay on that path) i should go with. Don't take that as being impolite, I guess the water is still foggy. The last person said i should sell my enblade and go with the TT shortblade.

No offence taken. I was just trying to inform you of my experience with LongBlades. It's easier to switch to a different weapon when you still are very limitedly skilled. I'm merely trying to warn you that in the longer run, LB might cause a real drain on your PED-card. If you are able to live with that, then by all means, don't let me stop you.

I would also recommend the 1x0, or maybe a 2x0. Best advice on how to determine which would be better to use is to check them out at an auctioneer, and compare stats on them both. Reason it's hard to check is because stuff changed overtime from when I last used either of them, and it is nowadays possible to see your individual statistics, based on your skills.

HTH.
 
Thanks VF, i'm gonna hit the auctions later tonight.

May Lootius be with you.
 
DarkFire didn't say to get the TT shortblade. He meant get the Enblade-A instead of the Enblade 1 you are using. The Enblade A has a skillup bonus that your weapon doesn't have.
 
That makes sense now, hardly ever see the Enblade A around, not even in the auctions. maybe i'm looking in the wrong place.
 
toorged said:
That makes sense now, hardly ever see the Enblade A around, not even in the auctions. maybe i'm looking in the wrong place.


enblade A you can buy at TT.. :) and at auctions for TT + 1.5 *g*
so. buy it at TT...

i had it too, but its so slow for me.. so, im hunting with axe 1x0 and a katsuichi valor.. my lb skills are at 1300.. needed a lot of peds :(
 
Davi-D said:
enblade A you can buy at TT.. :) and at auctions for TT + 1.5 *g*
so. buy it at TT...

i had it too, but its so slow for me.. so, im hunting with axe 1x0 and a katsuichi valor.. my lb skills are at 1300.. needed a lot of peds :(

Honor is more economical than Valor. Trust me... And even the Honor is a major sinhole for PEDs.
 
Really? I have a Valor now and I swear the peds just slide through my poor ped card. May have to change Katsuichis. They are a ped drainer, but so much fun to use.

As to the original topic of the thread, I haven't seen a very economical blade yet. I've gone to using one of the powerfists and bring in the blades as backup. I have a Killian G2 and a 1x0 axe as well and they only give me average decay at best. The killian is extremely slow so I only bring it in when I'm hunting low end mobs. I like using the axe for argos and some of the more challenging stuff. But I think I will be turning to more of the powerfisting. You may want to go with ranged weaponry, but that decision is up to you. :) Happy Hunting and hope I've been of some assistance.
 
I've tested out the TT Enblade, the -A, and I've skilled primarily with axe 1x0s. For the most part, I prefer the axes. Although they don't have the skill bonus on them, they do have a much faster speed. Nearly double what the Enblade-A does. 37 swings per minute compared to 20, if I recall properly. So, I chose axes, and have been fairly happy with them. Higher max damage (I think), and lots faster. Makes it possible for me to go toe to toe with an Atrax young in Rascal and come out alive if I'm lucky.

If all you care about are your skill levels I'd say Enblade-A. If you want to be able to hunt somewhat larger creatures with a better chance of survival, I'd say the 1x0 axes. I personally think the tradeoff on skills from larger mobs vs the skill bonus is in favor of the axes, but then again, I don't like the idea of having to swing at Exarosaurs and Combibos only till I get MDA and Martial Arts (Currently at 1116 LB).

Hopefully I've been a bit of help, or at least not fully wasted your time. Good luck, enjoy the hunt, and have fun on Calypso!

Noverus Daleramai
 
LB skill 0 - 1000 use the 1x0 or Enblade A (its a learning bonus not skill bonus btw).

1000 - 3000 use the 1x0 or 2x0 or/and Honor

Dont even consider using the Valor before 3k LB preferably start using it once you unlock Martial Arts & Melee Damage Assesment around 3.6k LB. Even then like VF has stated be prepared to lose PED using melee weapons. I have over 4k LB and still leaking PED when i hunt with my Valor, but the enjoyment i get from melee outweighs the cost for me so im not complaining :)
 
No one gave bad advice on this thread, it seems the commonality to everyones answer was to use and axe 1x0 until i can get my skills above 1k the switch to something a little more powerful. I can live with that, i thank you everyone for your input and honesty!!

+rep to you all.
 
toorged said:
No one gave bad advice on this thread, it seems the commonality to everyones answer was to use and axe 1x0 until i can get my skills above 1k the switch to something a little more powerful.
I'm at 4850 LB and still using axe 1x0 for skilling. Even after MA nerfed axes, they are still good weapons, especially for skilling. You just have to take one step down in the mob ladder, as max damage isn't as high as it used to be. E.g. I found 1x0-axing argonauts quite uneconomical after the nerf. However, it is perfectly fit for smaller mobs, like exos, snables, combibos, daikis, merps, tantillions.

Never sell your axes ;) You'll need them :wise:
 
IMO ... Skill with axe 1x0 until the 1.5k in LB . Switch to the Axe 2x0 and keep that until you reach 3k in LB- Axe 2x0 has the best economy in melee for now.
Keep your axes 1x0 (3-4) for small mobs ( exo,foul,daiki,snable,tantilion,snargs) since there is not so big average damage compared to 2x0 , until you get skilled enough. Keep the 2x0 for beryc,argos,cornuda,cornudo,mafoids.
When you reach 3k LB pick up an Honor. Maybe less dmg but is faster than Valor... I still hunt with the axe 2x0 and the 8.2 pec decay is ok for most mobs.

I never used the TT Longblade... it REALLY SUCKS... so slow! The mobs would reganarate really fast so you should kill them for 130% of their normal HP!

I think that after 9 months of slashing mobs and reading hundreds of pages in the forums, my opinion finally helps someone! :wise:
 
I'm still using Axe 1.0 at 1450+ LB since I can't find a Valor to take their place. I started playing late November and am now up to 8 of them and am staying even or growing PED (disregarding 2 HOF around 500 PED each). The skilling seems fast to me, but hey I'm the new guy.

The melee writeups I have read suggest the Valor. Do you think your issue may have been overhitting on the last swing Viagra? I plan on keeping an axe or 2 for the final few swings.
 
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Axe 2x0 has the best economy in melee for now

You won't ever see me make statements like that again. Last time I did, MA checked and considered the weapon I used bugged. So from that day on, anything I discover that allows me to slightly balance the odds in my favour stays off the forums. Just a heads up ;) You might find they took on axes 2x0 the next VU.


Sonic said:
The melee writeups I have read suggest the Valor. Do you think your issue may have been overhitting on the last swing Viagra? I plan on keeping an axe or 2 for the final few swings.

I have a whip and Opalo with me for the last hit. I've been asked, based on some screenshots of globals if "holy shit dude, are you that uber that you kill feffoids with no armour and just your whip?". No, I am not. The whip is the final blow-weapon.

Kaliegh said:
Why do you have multiple melee weapons?

It extends the hunt. Rather than having to run back to town after your axe breaks down, you can keep on hunting with a fresh one.
 
The higher the value of the weapon the longer you can hunt with it until you are forced to go repair. With a max TT value of 7(ish) an Axe 1.0 doesn't last you very long at all.

I grab 2000 medium cells and max repair all of my axes before I go hunt. Porting back to a town to repair and running several minutes back to a hunting spot is a waste of my gaming time. Plus you can pickup an Axe 1.0 for around TT+ 2-3 (although I was impatient when I started and bought some from the auction house for TT+ 6-7).

I'm trying to find an Axe 2.0 or Honor/Valor so I don't have to carry the extra weapons around however.
 
I'm currently using a Katsuichi Pride. I am on over 2K experience but I find i am constantly having to repair it. Does anyone else use the pride? I haven't seen many for sale!
 
ViagraFalls said:
To be quite honest, I'd recommend moving away from Longblades. Axes got rendered virtually useless after they got nerfed. They used to have decent economy, but after the nerf I found them to end up costing far more than I would get back.

So I switched to a Katuschi Honor. That also turned out to be quite the ped drainer, and I estimate skilling with the Honor for about 2-3 weeks set me back about 100 USD per week.

I'm real sorry to say, but I do believe for the mid-level player who is stuck inbetween an Axe and the Katuschi series, there just is no decent substitute. I won an Enblade 4 ME, but that while that had okay damage, it boosted a horrible reload, and similar decay to the Honor.

If anybody knows any better and more economical LB weapon at ~3.6k in LB, than by all means, prove me wrong. I spent too much time skilling up to just let it go, but using LB has become something I only use in dire need, rather than something I enjoy wielding.

Sadly, Brotha Viagra has it right here...for a long time I considered myself a melee dude but there just aren't any nice options for that any more. Now, I have no idea what the dmg/pec is on those new "Limited" melee weapons but the Axe 2x0 and Katsuichi Honor are the best of the non-limited ones. Like Viagra said, the Honor is still a PED-waster. The 2x0 is maddeningly slow to use.

I think I'll melee until I get Serendipity and then switch over to range. I already have RDA so I'm not a total range noob.
 
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