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After having a problem with a recent deposit, (the funds are still in limbo land aka the twilight zone), the fraud investigation branch of my credit card provider (MasterCard) informs me that Entropia Universe is on their "watch list" and will be blocked along with any other gaming or gambling sites as soon as US legislation passes banning Internet Gaming and Gambling.

So US gamers might be out of luck soon .........


R.G.
 
RoadGravy said:
After having a problem with a recent deposit, (the funds are still in limbo land aka the twilight zone), the fraud investigation branch of my credit card provider (MasterCard) informs me that Entropia Universe is on their "watch list" and will be blocked along with any other gaming or gambling sites as soon as US legislation passes banning Internet Gaming and Gambling.

So US gamers might be out of luck soon .........


R.G.
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if that goes, i think we'll see some major lawsuits coming up.
wasnt America the free country? i mean, its not an free anymore, its an fee country now.
 
Some of the US banks now have Entropia on their watch list as well. I have three checking accounts (2 personal and one business) and I can use my debit card from two of those accounts, but not one of the personal checking accounts. When I contacted that particular bank because of my Visa Debit card not working, they told me that EU was considered a gambling site. So yeah, I think you are right when you say we may have problems down the road. It started the same way when I was trying to fund my poker account. At first all the cards would work, then slowly but surely, one by one they stopped letting the transactions go through. Now I can't fund my poker accounts at all. I am considering opening up a bank account in the Caymen Islands to see if i can circumvent the system though ;)
 
You will be old by then. Too many interests.
 
This has to be the dumbest law ever. How hard is it to get an online bank account in some other country with a credit card attached to it? Or is that illegal as well?
 
I think the us goverement is smart here, lol they goona do this and no other contry gonna see what happened. While US is allowing internet gaming/gambling on servers inside US this will allow player from both US and the whole world influx money in Us economy, But forbid US citizins playing outside US borders , no dollars will leave the country.. Im not surprised if goverments aruond the globe will notice this until its to late to do anything...
 
Wouldn't getting a VISA instead of a credit card from MC solve the situation?
How does it work in the US?
 
Darkaner said:
This has to be the dumbest law ever. How hard is it to get an online bank account in some other country with a credit card attached to it? Or is that illegal as well?
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sometime illegal and if not usually very difficult. most banks require residency, either due to local laws or company policy to minimise exposure to fraud.

to the OP, that legislation is already passed i thought? its a funny thing because it gets the CC companies to police internet gambling since they cant do it directly (free speech and all).

anywho, there are plenty of once use or rechargeable credit cards products out there which can be used to circumvent this. Or, someone in the community from a country more conducive to gambling might be able to provide a service taking payments ;)

(watch this space)
 
....This new law was thought up by :handjob:

erm...just my :twocents: :D
 
aridash said:
sometime illegal and if not usually very difficult. most banks require residency, either due to local laws or company policy to minimise exposure to fraud.
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Yeah just learned that from my american socm8's. :(

I hope MA has something up their sleeve. If the americans leave we can forget about our little game/universe...
 
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Macce said:
I think the us goverement is smart here, lol they goona do this and no other contry gonna see what happened. While US is allowing internet gaming/gambling on servers inside US this will allow player from both US and the whole world influx money in Us economy, But forbid US citizins playing outside US borders , no dollars will leave the country.. Im not surprised if goverments aruond the globe will notice this until its to late to do anything...
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Oh it has been noticed by those outside of the US that for sure. The recent gambling sites that were banned by the US were majority British owned, and was pointed out in the UK press at the time that American gambling companies were hardly effected by this. If the US continue down this path it will no doubt force Europe to act similar towards American interests, its happend before. The current American adminstration is a "lame duck" so will be interesting to see what happens in the next few years.
 
lol

then use your visa or mastercard to fill your paynova account, and deposit from paypal :p who cares
 
Violet said:
Oh it has been noticed by those outside of the US that for sure. The recent gambling sites that were banned by the US were majority British owned, and was pointed out in the UK press at the time that American gambling companies were hardly effected by this. If the US continue down this path it will no doubt force Europe to act similar towards American interests, its happend before. The current American adminstration is a "lame duck" so will be interesting to see what happens in the next few years.
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O ty for pointing out :)
 
Is this law just for gambling or for any gaming where money is involved?

In Israel the law treats the two differently.
For example a backgammon site is fighting a court case claiming that skill counts more than luck in the game, if the court accepts this claim then CC companies will not be banned from dealing with them. Casino sites on the other hand are prohibited, they can only enforce this via the CC companies because most of the companies that run these sites are based in places like Gibralatar for tax and legal reasons.
 
Pretender said:
if that goes, i think we'll see some major lawsuits coming up.
wasnt America the free country? i mean, its not an free anymore, its an fee country now.
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Free country lol , that all went after the 'Patriots act' was brought in!

Jamhot
 
And now people will understand why bank will buy EU bank liscence and provide a cash card linked to an acount in sweden or belize ..
 
I had the same problem when I started making regular deposits from my Visa. Didn't try to use it for a couple weeks and next time I tried it worked. Someone at my bank suggested changing the size of the charges so they aren't always the same and it seems to work okay now doing that. GL
 
LOL..I really hope so...LOL

MA...love it..

But, hell, I don't live in the states...no rules here..that I know of, lol

So, good luck MA...Skilling or Gambling..? I would to know..

DS
 
Etopia said:
And now people will understand why bank will buy EU bank liscence and provide a cash card linked to an acount in sweden or belize ..
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its an interesting idea, but would a Swedish bank be permitted to offer such services? as i point out earlier, some legislation doesnt allow this. while not an expert, i'm certain a UK bank is not permitted to offer bank accounts to non-residents, and i'd be surprised if Sweden was signifcantly different. this is why people offshore, to where small countries are so fussy (like belize... hmm you know somthing?).

it will certainly be huge benefit if this does come along, in particular direct cash card access.
 
aridash said:
its an interesting idea, but would a Swedish bank be permitted to offer such services? as i point out earlier, some legislation doesnt allow this. while not an expert, i'm certain a UK bank is not permitted to offer bank accounts to non-residents, and i'd be surprised if Sweden was signifcantly different. this is why people offshore, to where small countries are so fussy (like belize... hmm you know somthing?).

it will certainly be huge benefit if this does come along, in particular direct cash card access.
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Law are often strange , i had a debit card linked to my EU acount... is the card mine , or is my avatar card?
If its my avatar card , then its a sweden residen card according to server location ?

I dont know shit about bank , card and all that stuff , but there online bank , with online acount and onlyne cashcard...
lets say "paypal"...
 
RoadGravy said:
After having a problem with a recent deposit, (the funds are still in limbo land aka the twilight zone), the fraud investigation branch of my credit card provider (MasterCard) informs me that Entropia Universe is on their "watch list" and will be blocked along with any other gaming or gambling sites as soon as US legislation passes banning Internet Gaming and Gambling.

So US gamers might be out of luck soon .........


R.G.
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I think that is a bit strange, considering the legislation has not passed yet. I could understand the position of the comapnies involved if the law was in effect, but withholding funds before a law is passed strikes me as illegal and unethical.
 
The law has already been passed, and put into effect. Anyone from the US who plays on poker sites knows this. While this is frustrating, there are generally ways around it. I'm not sure if Paypal works, but if MA really wants to help out, they will look into other systems like Paypal that US citizens can use, but that are not based in the US.
 
aridash said:
its an interesting idea, but would a Swedish bank be permitted to offer such services? as i point out earlier, some legislation doesnt allow this. while not an expert, i'm certain a UK bank is not permitted to offer bank accounts to non-residents, and i'd be surprised if Sweden was signifcantly different.
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Not being an expert either, this may only apply to individuals or retail banking. Its certainly possible in the global investment banking world to have a bank account with a bank that is not the same residency as your company.

Also something to consider, UK banks like Abbey which is now owned by Banco Santander which is Spanish. I can think of several other European banks that are American owned. Its certainly a grey area.
 
Teilk said:
I think that is a bit strange, considering the legislation has not passed yet. I could understand the position of the comapnies involved if the law was in effect, but withholding funds before a law is passed strikes me as illegal and unethical.
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Sorry to say but the law has already passed. It was slipped in to a port security bill last year by a group of right wing members of Congress in order to secure their vote on the bill and was heavily pushed for by the US horse racing and casino lobby. The bill is already law. Recently a bill was introduced in Congress to repeal it but all indications are it won't pass in this Congress.
 
So EU is gambling :) big surprise

MA can say goodbye to all US players I guess, over time.
 
The "Internet Gambling" law HAS passed and is in effect. As an indentured United States Federal Slave, you are NOT allowed to gamble on the internet, under some very draconian punishments.

King George Bush II has ordered ALL "finiancial institutions" (both US and foreign based - if they are in any way controlled by US interests) to cease allowing deposits to known gambling.g sites. EU is a known gambling site. Fortunatly (for now) as EU has done away with the loot in the form of "cash" (gold/silver) EU falls under a gray area, like our Indian Casinos do.

I, too, had thought this moronic and suppressive law was still in limbo, untill two of the poker sites I play on (professionally) sent me checks of my balances and cancelled my membership. They explained "Your government has ordered, under threat, that we do this. Sorry."

Best bet is to get a non-traceable prepaid Visa debit card. I suggest http://www.simon.com/giftcard/ Works for me.
 
Economically, they know what they are doing. That new bill that would allow gambling will never be passed. When you manage to push through a controversial bill, the bill that revokes it becomes even more controversial, and even harder to push through. And Bush would have no reason not to veto it, since he only has a little bit left in office anyway.
 
.:{SELLING}:. Peds (110%) @ Boxes :laugh: Visa / Mastercard? That'll do nicely :D


















Sorry, couldn't resist :)
 
Something was bugging me about this, but i couldnt remember what. Then a mastercard advert just came on the tv and now i remember...

"some things money cant buy" everything else use mastercard.
 
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