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Leeloo Miner

Leeloo Miner

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Once I started ore mining on LA 63 and this almost coincided with the Gold Rush event on Arkadia, the TT returns were extremely volatile.
So I decided to continue mining for the unlocked enmatter missions for: 100 garcen, 100 magerian and 100 typo and go back to LA 63 if ore mining is back to normal.
If returns are bad ... MOVE to another spot.
This time not on the same LA 58, but I moved to New Switzerland because I already have a very large stock of enmatters that I found on LA58 and @ New Switzerland I can also mine other enmatters and again, NO amps cause they only give more fillers.

This mining area is also giving copper for my mission, so I'll mine for copper also but NEVER dual cause this changes the ground composition.

Let the testing begin :)
 
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0/100 Garcen - 0/100 Magerian - 0/100 Typo ​

Cost (all decay/MU included) 105,20 Ped
Net TT return 101,664 Ped : 96,62%
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 119,63 Ped : 113,70%
Profit/Loss so far : 14,42 ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 82,91%
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DpthCostTTSalesAcid RAresAzurCaveGarcenLytaMageMelchiNexusTypoOil
204,00MD-100,00
204,00Demonic
205,00TM1
213,90DSEC L2
283,10F-1010,00
303,05Ziplex 5
303,50Sabad 2
347,30F-1020,00
390,10F-10352,3160,73116,10%70,08133,96%17,772,11%4,74%2,57%3,29%7,82%25,89%3,39%1,23%48,95%
403,00Ziplex 10
408,00TM 2
432,90F-1040,000,00#DIV/0!0,00#DIV/0!0,00#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!
472,60F-2110,00
477,60Ziplex 15
522,4F-10552,8940,9177,35%49,5493,67%-3,3511,73%3,18%4,77%5,38%13,44%8,75%8,68%2,93%41,14%
552,3Ziplex 20
592F-212
626,9Ziplex 25
631,8F-213
631,8TM 3
676,5Emine
741TM 40,00
830,8TM 5
105,20101,6496,62%119,62113,70%14,42
-3,5614,42
82,91%13,70%
 
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0/100 Garcen - 0/100 Magerian - 0/100 Typo - 0/100 Lyta​

Also found Lyta

This server turns out to be interesting because you have to go deeper for certain enmatters.

Cost (all decay/MU included) 213,50 Ped
Net TT return 227,30 Ped : 106,46 %
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 271,06 Ped : 126,96%
Profit/Loss so far : 57,56 ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 79,50%
DpthCostTTSalesAcid RAresAzurBinaryEnergy CCaveGarcenLytaMageMelchiNexusTypoOil
204,00MD-100,00
204,00Demonic
205,00TM1
213,90DSEC L2
283,10F-1010,00
303,05Ziplex 5
303,50Sabad 2
347,30F-1020,00
390,10F-10352,3160,73116,10%70,08133,96%17,772,11%4,74%2,57%3,29%7,82%25,89%3,39%1,23%48,95%
403,00Ziplex 10
408,00TM 2
432,90F-1040,000,00#DIV/0!0,00#DIV/0!0,00#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!
472,60F-211
477,60Ziplex 15
522,4F-10552,8940,9177,35%49,5493,67%-3,3511,73%3,18%4,77%5,38%13,44%8,75%8,68%2,93%41,14%
552,3Ziplex 20
592F-212
626,9Ziplex 2554,2773,07134,65%90,12166,07%35,851,75%51,24%4,11%1,60%3,56%3,76%14,04%8,47%11,47%
631,8F-213
631,8TM 354,0452,5997,32%61,32113,49%7,292,97%14,60%1,43%2,28%2,22%4,37%3,25%6,18%13,35%4,28%45,07%
676,5Emine
741TM 4
830,8TM 5
213,50227,30106,46%271,06126,96%57,56
13,8057,56
TT needed79,50%26,96%
 
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Leeloo Miner said:
Once I started ore mining on LA 63 and this almost coincided with the Gold Rush event on Arkadia, the TT returns were extremely volatile.
So I decided to continue mining for the unlocked enmatter missions for: 100 garcen, 100 magerian and 100 typo and go back to LA 63 if ore mining is back to normal.
This time not on the same LA 58, but I moved to New Switzerland because I already have a very large stock of enmatters that I found on LA58 and @ New Switzerland I can also mine other enmatters and again, NO amps cause they only give more fillers.

Let the testing begin :)
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Looking forward to your new ore's mining journey, all the best :)
 
the most impressive thing to me is that you have a couple of dozen of finders... i just own a f105 and did never consider that different finders can lead to different finds....will follow the thread
 
Have you noticed in recent weeks that the returns for ores had a lot of ups and downs? (more volatile)
Now after yesterday's maintenance the enmatter return has also been adjusted ...
Fillers fillers fillers ... even with the Emine up to 71.70%
This of course means higher costs in extraction and refining...
But the good side (for miners with stock) is that more uncommon enmatters will increase in price even more!!!

Cost (all decay/MU included) 369,42 Ped
Net TT return 363,21 Ped : 98,32 %
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 424,29 Ped : 114,85%
Profit/Loss so far : 54,87 ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 83,47%

DpthCostTTSalesAcid RAresAzurBinaryEnergy CCaveGarcenLytaMageMelchiNexusTypoOil
204,00MD-1051,4441,3780,42%45,5188,46%-5,933,14%37,90%14,48%44,48%
204,00Demonic
205,00TM1
213,90DSEC L2
283,10F-101
303,05Ziplex 5
303,50Sabad 2
347,30F-102
390,10F-10352,3160,73116,10%70,08133,96%17,772,11%4,74%2,57%3,29%7,82%25,89%3,39%1,23%48,95%
403,00Ziplex 10
408,00TM 2
432,90F-10452,1451,2298,24%56,89109,10%4,752,50%2,28%44,75%5,25%45,22%
472,60F-211
477,60Ziplex 15
522,4F-10552,8940,9177,35%49,5493,67%-3,3511,73%3,18%4,77%5,38%13,44%8,75%8,68%2,93%41,14%
552,3Ziplex 20
592F-212
626,9Ziplex 2554,2773,07134,65%90,12166,07%35,851,75%51,24%4,11%1,60%3,56%3,76%14,04%8,47%11,47%
631,8F-213
631,8TM 354,0452,5997,32%61,32113,49%7,292,97%14,60%1,43%2,28%2,22%4,37%3,25%6,18%13,35%4,28%45,07%
676,5Emine52,3443,3282,77%50,8397,12%-1,511,39%3,60%6,23%14,91%20,31%15,93%2,77%34,86%
741TM 4
830,8TM 5
369,42363,2198,32%424,29114,85%54,87
-6,2154,87
TT needed83,47%14,85%
 
Leeloo Miner said:
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Cost (all decay/MU included) 369,42 Ped
Net TT return 363,21 Ped : 98,32 %
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 424,29 Ped : 114,85%
Profit/Loss so far : 54,87 ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 83,47%
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What does the blue line mean? Cant be 0,8347 * 1,1485 = 1. So how do you figure you only needed 83% to break even? Aside from that, always an interesting read, thx for sharing.
 
Thark said:
What does the blue line mean? Cant be 0,8347 * 1,1485 = 1. So how do you figure you only needed 83% to break even? Aside from that, always an interesting read, thx for sharing.
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The blue line is the average I need "so far" to break even based after sales.

Result after sales = 114,85% - 100% = 14,85%

TT return so far = 98,32% - 14,85% = 83,47% needed to break even

If I'm wrong, please say ;)
I sell resources @ the same and steady % all the time, if auction % is to low I stock, if high enough I sell only then you can work this way.
 
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Leeloo Miner said:
The blue line is the average I need "so far" to break even based after sales.

Result after sales = 114,85% - 100% = 14,85%

TT return so far = 98,32% - 14,85% = 83,47% needed to break even

If I'm wrong, please say ;)
I sell resources @ the same and steady % all the time, if auction % is to low I stock, if high enough I sell only then you can work this way.
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No, the maths a bit off. If you asume you get 114% MU you have to divive 1 (i.e100%) with 1.14 and you get 0.877.
 
Msturlese said:
the most impressive thing to me is that you have a couple of dozen of finders... i just own a f105 and did never consider that different finders can lead to different finds....will follow the thread
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Tip for azzurdite ...

If you want to avoid azzurdite, use a finder with lower depth than the f-105 ;)

Check this thread (LA63) and more tips coming :sneaky:
 
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All week ... fillers ... fillers ... fillers ...
Finally did a run today with the F-213 and the same again... oil, nexus, melchi and some acid root... This meant 89.83% fillers!!!
I am convinced that the algorithms for the mining event have been seriously adjusted.
Wonder what next week will bring...
I can't and won't complain, because return is okay.
The reason why I started mining in NZ is to possibly finish the 100 missions, but this is absolutely not possible this way.
There is also no point in further mining here with all those fillers.
I'll see what next week brings and if the algorithms are adjusted again.

Cost (all decay/MU included) 468,31 Ped
Net TT return 475,67 Ped : 101,57 %
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 552,76 Ped : 118,03%
Profit/Loss so far : 84,45 ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 84,72%
DpthCostTTSalesAcid RAresAzurBinaryEnergy CCaveGarcenLytaMageMelchiNexusTypoOil
204,00MD-1051,4441,3780,42%45,5188,46%-5,933,14%37,90%14,48%44,48%
204,00Demonic
205,00TM1
213,90DSEC L2
283,10F-101
303,05Ziplex 5
303,50Sabad 2
347,30F-102
390,10F-10352,3160,73116,10%70,08133,96%17,772,11%4,74%2,57%3,29%7,82%25,89%3,39%1,23%48,95%
403,00Ziplex 10
408,00TM 2
432,90F-10452,1451,2298,24%56,89109,10%4,752,50%2,28%44,75%5,25%45,22%
472,60F-211
477,60Ziplex 15
522,4F-10552,8940,9177,35%49,5493,67%-3,3511,73%3,18%4,77%5,38%13,44%8,75%8,68%2,93%41,14%
552,3Ziplex 20
592F-212
626,9Ziplex 2554,2773,07134,65%90,12166,07%35,851,75%51,24%4,11%1,60%3,56%3,76%14,04%8,47%11,47%
631,8F-21344,3559,77134,76%63,76143,74%19,4010,17%12,45%6,89%70,49%
631,8TM 354,0452,5997,32%61,32113,49%7,292,97%14,60%1,43%2,28%2,22%4,37%3,25%6,18%13,35%4,28%45,07%
676,5Emine52,3443,3282,77%50,8397,12%-1,511,39%3,60%6,23%14,91%20,31%15,93%2,77%34,86%
741TM 454,5352,6996,62%64,72118,68%10,192,85%8,14%8,07%19,32%12,64%48,98%
830,8TM 540,6640,84100,43%48,12118,34%7,4621,16%3,82%3,92%7,96%22,38%11,36%29,41%
468,31475,67101,57%552,76118,03%84,45
7,3684,45
TT needed84,72%18,03%
 
Hi, Leeloo, thanks for sharing all this info. I appreciate it. I already learn a lot from this, but I have a question about this "I sell resources @ the same and steady % all the time, if auction % is to low I stock, if high enough I sell only then you can work this way." could you give me a simple example please. How to know when the auction is low or high? thanks.
 
Great that you have already learned a lot.

I must honestly admit that this is mainly experience and a lot of calculations.
Mining is 1 profession here, but selling is another profession (Trading)

As a guideline, you can, for example, use the annual "Market Value" where you can see ups and downs.
Your sales price will also depend on your pedcard.
If you want to sell very high, you may have to wait a very long time, so in this case it is better to sell a little lower, but still make a profit while to keep mining.

A lot depends on where you are going to mine and the resources.
As an example for LA58 ... I currently have a stock after finishing the 1K missions : 10K alic, 3K garcen, 3K typo, 45K nexus and 800 putty not to mention oil and I have sold all of these regularly during the mining.

EDIT : Sell your "fillers" and try to stock the better resources with higher % until they are high to sell. This way you can continue mining.
Oil I'm selling like 104,55% - 107,59% Net.
 
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also, just sell everything right now, seems all im getting is very high due to GR? xD
 
Copper 0/100​

Ore also had a low TT return on LA 63 and therefore decided to also mine copper in NS

Because I can also mine igni here, I start as deep as possible

Cost (all decay/MU included) 311,88 Ped
Net TT return 353,98 Ped : 113,50 %
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 388,78 Ped : 124,66%
Profit/Loss so far : 76,90 ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 80,22%

DpthCostTTSalesAzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
204,00MD-10MD-10
204,00DemonicDemonic
205,00TM1TM1
213,90DSEC L2DSEC L2
283,10F-101F-101
303,05Ziplex 5Ziplex 5
303,50Sabad 2Sabad 2
347,30F-102F-102
380,10F-101+6F-101+6
390,10F-103F-103
403,00Ziplex 10Ziplex 10
408,00TM 2TM 2
432,90F-104F-104
472,60F-211F-211
470,70F-103+4F-103+4
472,60F-211F-211
477,60Ziplex 15Ziplex 15
522,4F-105F-105
552,3Ziplex 20Ziplex 20
592F-212F-212
626,9Ziplex 25Ziplex 25
631,8F-213F-213
631,8TM 3TM 3
676,5Emine102,4388,1486,05%97,4195,10%-5,02Emine27,23%5,11%9,63%3,18%20,93%33,92%
741TM 4104,43125,03119,72%135,03129,30%30,59TM 427,83%2,45%6,65%2,24%8,72%4,80%47,31%
830,8TM5105,02140,81134,08%156,34148,87%51,32TM523,01%3,66%2,84%3,48%34,23%32,77%
AzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
311,88353,98113,50%388,78124,66%76,90
42,1076,90
TT needed80,22%
 
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Cost (all decay/MU included) 352,65 Ped
Net TT return 542,98 Ped : 153,97 %
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 588,16 Ped : 166,78%
Profit/Loss so far : 235,51 ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 59,96%

This time with the TM 3 :yay:
[Globals]: Leeloo Leeloo Mining found a deposit (Niksarium Stone) with a value of 152 PED!
DpthCostTTSalesAzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
204,00MD-10MD-10
204,00DemonicDemonic
205,00TM1TM1
213,90DSEC L2DSEC L2
283,10F-101F-101
303,05Ziplex 5Ziplex 5
303,50Sabad 2Sabad 2
347,30F-102F-102
380,10F-101+6F-101+6
390,10F-103F-103
403,00Ziplex 10Ziplex 10
408,00TM 2TM 2
432,90F-104F-104
472,60F-211F-211
470,70F-103+4F-103+4
472,60F-211F-211
477,60Ziplex 15Ziplex 15
522,4F-105F-105
552,3Ziplex 20Ziplex 20
592F-212F-212
626,9Ziplex 25Ziplex 25
631,8F-213F-213
631,8TM 340,77189,00463,63%199,38489,09%158,62TM 35,71%4,97%2,99%86,32%
676,5Emine102,4388,1486,05%97,4195,10%-5,02Emine27,23%5,11%9,63%3,18%20,93%33,92%
741TM 4104,43125,03119,72%135,03129,30%30,59TM 427,83%2,45%6,65%2,24%8,72%4,80%47,31%
830,8TM5105,02140,81134,08%156,34148,87%51,32TM523,01%3,66%2,84%3,48%34,23%32,77%
AzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
352,65542,98153,97%588,16166,78%235,51Ped
190,33235,51%
TT needed 59,96%
 
Copper 44/100​

Now things start to get interesting...
I know with the F-105 you get less or almost no azzurdite at that depth.
The question now is... am I still going to get Igni and what other resources am I going to get?
Just did a run with the Ziplex 20 and no igni found either... so testing is not easy.
Igni is currently capped and you get max 7 % igni in your runs... same on other planets
My thought...there's a tower and/or ATH Igni on the way? :unsure:

My stats for now

BTW : I lowered the sales % for Azzurdite and Niksarium

Cost (all decay/MU included) 771,9 Ped
Net TT return 963,30 Ped : 124,80 %
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 1034,13 Ped : 133,97%
Profit/Loss so far : 262,23 ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 74,64%

DpthCostTTSalesAzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
204,00MD-10MD-10
204,00DemonicDemonic
205,00TM1TM1
213,90DSEC L2DSEC L2
283,10F-101F-101
303,05Ziplex 5Ziplex 5
303,50Sabad 2Sabad 2
347,30F-102F-102
380,10F-101+6F-101+6
390,10F-103F-103
403,00Ziplex 10Ziplex 10
408,00TM 2TM 2
432,90F-104F-104
472,60F-211F-211
470,70F-103+4F-103+4
472,60F-211F-211
477,60Ziplex 15Ziplex 15
522,4F-1050,000,00#DIV/0!0,00#DIV/0!0,00F-105#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!0,00%#DIV/0!
552,3Ziplex 20109,94109,941,08115,27112,97%5,33Ziplex 2034,93%12,08%3,06%21,56%28,38%
592F-212102,0577,1975,64%83,7482,05%-18,32F-21215,55%11,66%7,46%1,81%26,47%37,05%
626,9Ziplex 25104,46104,4299,97%125,97120,59%21,51Ziplex 2516,09%34,71%2,15%2,30%6,70%10,67%27,39%
631,8F-213102,80128,77125,27%135,17131,49%32,37F-21325,16%12,25%4,97%20,26%37,35%
631,8TM 340,77189,00463,63%191,63470,08%150,87TM 35,71%4,97%2,99%86,32%
676,5Emine102,4388,1486,05%95,9993,71%-6,44Emine27,23%5,11%9,63%3,18%20,93%33,92%
741TM 4104,43125,03119,72%132,22126,61%27,78TM 427,83%2,45%6,65%2,24%8,72%4,80%47,31%
830,8TM5105,02140,81134,08%154,15146,78%49,13TM523,01%3,66%2,84%3,48%34,23%32,77%
AzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
771,90963,30124,80%1034,13133,97%262,23Ped
191,40262,23%
TT needed74,64%
 
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Copper 50/100​

Azzurdite : Still finding a lot :(
Belkar : getting more :) but I see % getting down so might be more available
Copper : Getting more :D
Igni : Only found deeper ??? :unsure:

Cost (all decay/MU included) 874,47 Ped
Net TT return 1065,09 Ped : 121,80 %
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 1143,77 Ped : 130,80%
Profit/Loss so far : 269,31 ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 76,45%

DpthCostTTSalesAzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
204,00MD-10MD-10
204,00DemonicDemonic
205,00TM1TM1
213,90DSEC L2DSEC L2
283,10F-101F-101
303,05Ziplex 5Ziplex 5
303,50Sabad 2Sabad 2
347,30F-102F-102
380,10F-101+6F-101+6
390,10F-103F-103
403,00Ziplex 10Ziplex 10
408,00TM 2TM 2
432,90F-104F-104
472,60F-211F-211
470,70F-103+4F-103+4
472,60F-211F-211
477,60Ziplex 15Ziplex 15
522,4F-105102,57101,7999,24%109,64106,89%7,07F-10518,72%20,14%10,14%2,34%14,31%34,45%
552,3Ziplex 20109,94109,94
107,75%
115,27112,97%5,33Ziplex 2034,93%12,08%3,06%21,56%28,38%
592F-212102,0577,1975,64%83,7482,05%-18,32F-21215,55%11,66%7,46%1,81%26,47%37,05%
626,9Ziplex 25104,46104,4299,97%125,97120,59%21,51Ziplex 2516,09%34,71%2,15%2,30%6,70%10,67%27,39%
631,8F-213102,80128,77125,27%135,17131,49%32,37F-21325,16%12,25%4,97%20,26%37,35%
631,8TM 340,77189,00463,63%191,63470,08%150,87TM 35,71%4,97%2,99%86,32%
676,5Emine102,4388,1486,05%95,9993,71%-6,44Emine27,23%5,11%9,63%3,18%20,93%33,92%
741TM 4104,43125,03119,72%132,22126,61%27,78TM 427,83%2,45%6,65%2,24%8,72%4,80%47,31%
830,8TM5105,02140,81134,08%154,15146,78%49,13TM523,01%3,66%2,84%3,48%34,23%32,77%
AzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
874,471065,09121,80%1143,77130,80%269,31Ped
190,62269,31%
TT needed76,45%
 
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Leeloo Miner said:
Copper 44/100​

Now things start to get interesting...
I know with the F-105 you get less or almost no azzurdite at that depth.
The question now is... am I still going to get Igni and what other resources am I going to get?
Just did a run with the Ziplex 20 and no igni found either... so testing is not easy.
Igni is currently capped and you get max 7 % igni in your runs... same on other planets
My thought...there's a tower and/or ATH Igni on the way? :unsure:

My stats for now

BTW : I lowered the sales % for Azzurdite and Niksarium

Cost (all decay/MU included) 771,9 Ped
Net TT return 963,30 Ped : 124,80 %
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 1034,13 Ped : 133,97%
Profit/Loss so far : 262,23 ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 74,64%

DpthCostTTSalesAzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
204,00MD-10MD-10
204,00DemonicDemonic
205,00TM1TM1
213,90DSEC L2DSEC L2
283,10F-101F-101
303,05Ziplex 5Ziplex 5
303,50Sabad 2Sabad 2
347,30F-102F-102
380,10F-101+6F-101+6
390,10F-103F-103
403,00Ziplex 10Ziplex 10
408,00TM 2TM 2
432,90F-104F-104
472,60F-211F-211
470,70F-103+4F-103+4
472,60F-211F-211
477,60Ziplex 15Ziplex 15
522,4F-1050,000,00#DIV/0!0,00#DIV/0!0,00F-105#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!#DIV/0!0,00%#DIV/0!
552,3Ziplex 20109,94109,941,08115,27112,97%5,33Ziplex 2034,93%12,08%3,06%21,56%28,38%
592F-212102,0577,1975,64%83,7482,05%-18,32F-21215,55%11,66%7,46%1,81%26,47%37,05%
626,9Ziplex 25104,46104,4299,97%125,97120,59%21,51Ziplex 2516,09%34,71%2,15%2,30%6,70%10,67%27,39%
631,8F-213102,80128,77125,27%135,17131,49%32,37F-21325,16%12,25%4,97%20,26%37,35%
631,8TM 340,77189,00463,63%191,63470,08%150,87TM 35,71%4,97%2,99%86,32%
676,5Emine102,4388,1486,05%95,9993,71%-6,44Emine27,23%5,11%9,63%3,18%20,93%33,92%
741TM 4104,43125,03119,72%132,22126,61%27,78TM 427,83%2,45%6,65%2,24%8,72%4,80%47,31%
830,8TM5105,02140,81134,08%154,15146,78%49,13TM523,01%3,66%2,84%3,48%34,23%32,77%
AzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
771,90963,30124,80%1034,13133,97%262,23Ped
191,40262,23%
TT needed74,64%
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i rekon igni wont be released much untill mayhem ends. Igni ideally shouldnt be in high demand for the first quater of 2024 unless they add in some unforseen event. If this year has taught me anything, MA can throw a curve ball at anytime.
 
Jade Draconis said:
i rekon igni wont be released much untill mayhem ends. Igni ideally shouldnt be in high demand for the first quater of 2024 unless they add in some unforseen event. If this year has taught me anything, MA can throw a curve ball at anytime.
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Only a few places igni is dropping ATM and it's not in massive amounts either. Made alot my runs bust because that.
 
Seems it's capped and only give you 7 ped igni / 100 ped drops (unamped) @ Caly and Ark @ lowest depth of 635.
 
Seems it's capped and only give you 7 ped igni / 100 ped drops (unamped) @ Caly and Ark @ lowest depth of 635.

Huge lag so double posted, pls ignore this
 
In the meantime I did a few more runs and...
Lowest depth for igni is now 374, so it can still be found at any depth just... capped...
As you can see, even after selling I still make a little loss, but with the full cycle I am still positive, so I am not worried yet.
MA is just eating my profit bit by bit.

BTW I'm counting Azzurdite and Niksarium @ 100% but just stocking for now.

Connected to IGNI is cave sap... especially important for armatrix and Terra amp 9 and 10 so this will have a very big impact on the sales and use of both.
A miner friend put 2 stacks of putty on auction yesterday (1K + 2K) and they were sold within the hour for 250% so I did the same but for 500-100-50 stacks... everything sold... I wonder how high the price will go :unsure:
The question now is how much will those amps and armatrix cost... and how do you make a profit when using them.


Cost (all decay/MU included) 1076,83 Ped
Net TT return 1242,16,09 Ped : 115,35 %
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 1337,44 Ped : 124,20%
Profit/Loss so far : 260,61 ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 80,51%

DpthCostTTSalesAzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
204,00MD-10MD-10
204,00DemonicDemonic
205,00TM1TM1
213,90DSEC L2DSEC L2
283,10F-101F-101
303,05Ziplex 5Ziplex 5
303,50Sabad 2Sabad 2
347,30F-102F-102
390,10F-103F-103
403,00Ziplex 10Ziplex 10
408,00TM 2TM 2
432,90F-104F-104
472,60F-211100,4488,8288,43%99,6299,19%-0,82F-21110,75%2,19%7,65%4,88%20,90%42,25%
477,60Ziplex 15101,9288,2586,59%94,0492,27%-7,88Ziplex 152,35%12,48%5,49%2,35%17,35%47,45%
522,4F-105102,57101,7999,24%109,64106,89%7,07F-10518,72%20,14%10,14%2,34%14,31%34,45%
552,3Ziplex 20109,94109,94107,75%115,27112,97%5,33Ziplex 2034,93%12,08%3,06%21,56%28,38%
592F-212102,0577,1975,64%83,7482,05%-18,32F-21215,55%11,66%7,46%1,81%26,47%37,05%
626,9Ziplex 25104,46104,4299,97%125,97120,59%21,51Ziplex 2516,09%34,71%2,15%2,30%6,70%10,67%27,39%
631,8F-213102,80128,77125,27%135,17131,49%32,37F-21325,16%12,25%4,97%20,26%37,35%
631,8TM 340,77189,00463,63%191,63470,08%150,87TM 35,71%4,97%2,99%86,32%
676,5Emine102,4388,1486,05%95,9993,71%-6,44Emine27,23%5,11%9,63%3,18%20,93%33,92%
741TM 4104,43125,03119,72%132,22126,61%27,78TM 427,83%2,45%6,65%2,24%8,72%4,80%47,31%
830,8TM5105,02140,81134,08%154,15146,78%49,13TM523,01%3,66%2,84%3,48%34,23%32,77%
AzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
1076,831242,16115,35%1337,44124,20%260,61Ped
165,33260,61%
TT needed80,51%
 
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Leeloo Miner said:
In the meantime I did a few more runs and...
Lowest depth for igni is now 374, so it can still be found at any depth just... capped...
As you can see, even after selling I still make a little loss, but with the full cycle I am still positive, so I am not worried yet.
MA is just eating my profit bit by bit.

BTW I'm counting Azzurdite and Niksarium @ 100% but just stocking for now.

Connected to IGNI is cave sap... especially important for armatrix and Terra amp 9 and 10 so this will have a very big impact on the sales and use of both.
A miner friend put 2 stacks of putty on auction yesterday (1K + 2K) and they were sold within the hour for 250% so I did the same but for 500-100-50 stacks... everything sold... I wonder how high the price will go :unsure:
The question now is how much will those amps and armatrix cost... and how do you make a profit when using them.


Cost (all decay/MU included) 1076,83 Ped
Net TT return 1242,16,09 Ped : 115,35 %
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 1337,44 Ped : 124,20%
Profit/Loss so far : 260,61 ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 80,51%

DpthCostTTSalesAzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
204,00MD-10MD-10
204,00DemonicDemonic
205,00TM1TM1
213,90DSEC L2DSEC L2
283,10F-101F-101
303,05Ziplex 5Ziplex 5
303,50Sabad 2Sabad 2
347,30F-102F-102
390,10F-103F-103
403,00Ziplex 10Ziplex 10
408,00TM 2TM 2
432,90F-104F-104
472,60F-211100,4488,8288,43%99,6299,19%-0,82F-21110,75%2,19%7,65%4,88%20,90%42,25%
477,60Ziplex 15101,9288,2586,59%94,0492,27%-7,88Ziplex 152,35%12,48%5,49%2,35%17,35%47,45%
522,4F-105102,57101,7999,24%109,64106,89%7,07F-10518,72%20,14%10,14%2,34%14,31%34,45%
552,3Ziplex 20109,94109,94107,75%115,27112,97%5,33Ziplex 2034,93%12,08%3,06%21,56%28,38%
592F-212102,0577,1975,64%83,7482,05%-18,32F-21215,55%11,66%7,46%1,81%26,47%37,05%
626,9Ziplex 25104,46104,4299,97%125,97120,59%21,51Ziplex 2516,09%34,71%2,15%2,30%6,70%10,67%27,39%
631,8F-213102,80128,77125,27%135,17131,49%32,37F-21325,16%12,25%4,97%20,26%37,35%
631,8TM 340,77189,00463,63%191,63470,08%150,87TM 35,71%4,97%2,99%86,32%
676,5Emine102,4388,1486,05%95,9993,71%-6,44Emine27,23%5,11%9,63%3,18%20,93%33,92%
741TM 4104,43125,03119,72%132,22126,61%27,78TM 427,83%2,45%6,65%2,24%8,72%4,80%47,31%
830,8TM5105,02140,81134,08%154,15146,78%49,13TM523,01%3,66%2,84%3,48%34,23%32,77%
AzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
1076,831242,16115,35%1337,44124,20%260,61Ped
165,33260,61%
TT needed80,51%
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It's same with amps theirs a little loss in most places apart from a few and to profit or break even its dependent on a global or hof something other than list/oil.
 
Cost (all decay/MU included) 1262,75 Ped
Net TT return 1437,89 Ped : 113,87 %
After sales net (so with % and minus fee) 1551,57 Ped : 122,87%
Profit/Loss so far : 288,83 ped
Minimum TT needed to break even : 81,38%

And the Ziplex 10 did it again [Globals]: Leeloo Leeloo Mining found a deposit (Lysterium Stone) with a value of 54 PED!

DpthCostTTSalesAzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
204,00MD-10MD-10
204,00DemonicDemonic
205,00TM1TM1
213,90DSEC L2DSEC L2
283,10F-101F-101
303,05Ziplex 5Ziplex 5
303,50Sabad 2Sabad 2
347,30F-102F-102
390,10F-103F-103
403,00Zip 10102,55136,8133,39%153,35149,53%50,79Ziplex 107,25%7,64%4,68%3,41%80,61%30,55%
408,00TM 240,5612,230,08%12,8631,71%-27,70TM 25,92%12,94%11,38%
432,90F-10442,8046,73109,17%47,93111,97%5,12F-1045,61%6,92%7,85%5,28%85,12%
472,60F-211100,4488,8288,43%99,6299,19%-0,82F-21110,75%2,19%7,65%4,88%20,90%42,25%
477,60Ziplex 15101,9288,2586,59%94,0492,27%-7,88Ziplex 152,35%12,48%5,49%2,35%17,35%47,45%
522,4F-105102,57101,7999,24%109,64106,89%7,07F-10518,72%20,14%10,14%2,34%14,31%34,45%
552,3Ziplex 20109,94109,94107,75%115,27112,97%5,33Ziplex 2034,93%12,08%3,06%21,56%28,38%
592F-212102,0577,1975,64%83,7482,05%-18,32F-21215,55%11,66%7,46%1,81%26,47%37,05%
626,9Ziplex 25104,46104,4299,97%125,97120,59%21,51Ziplex 2516,09%34,71%2,15%2,30%6,70%10,67%27,39%
631,8F-213102,80128,77125,27%135,17131,49%32,37F-21325,16%12,25%4,97%20,26%37,35%
631,8TM 340,77189,00463,63%191,63470,08%150,87TM 35,71%4,97%2,99%86,32%
676,5Emine102,4388,1486,05%95,9993,71%-6,44Emine27,23%5,11%9,63%3,18%20,93%33,92%
741TM 4104,43125,03119,72%132,22126,61%27,78TM 427,83%2,45%6,65%2,24%8,72%4,80%47,31%
830,8TM5105,02140,81134,08%154,15146,78%49,13TM523,01%3,66%2,84%3,48%34,23%32,77%
AzzurdBelkarCopperErdoIgniLystValuriteNiks
1262,751437,89113,87%1551,57122,87%288,83
175,14288,83
TT needed 81,38%
 
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