Nissa's n00b journal

[Nissa]

I figured this is a good as place as any to keep a log of what I do in Entropia. I found info on this game browsing through youtube and thought I would give it a go. I already play or have played many other MMO's including SL, WoW, GW2, Tribes Assend, Star Wars and EvE. Currently GW2 is by far the best dollar per entertainment value. I paid $58 for the game (pre-order, played since it went live) and have not had to put a penny into it since (over a year). I put a lot of money into SL over the years and have taken a lot back out. I still use it an my #1 Role Play game.

I have been researching EU for a week now and very uncertain it is worth the cost. I see some people are putting ridiculous amounts of USD into the game every month and figured I would try and find out why.


Two days ago I created my account and started playing. I got my character looking the way I want. Was disappointed to find I am way taller in world that I anticipated but oh well. I was disappointed to enter the world in orange prison clothes. In the avatar creation you had clothes to choose but thy disappeared once you went to the first mission area. Logged off for the day.

Yesterday after RL work I logged back in to get started playing. It took a minutes to figure out the interface. After about 10mins I finally figured out how to put hotkey buttons on screen and get my keys and WoW mouse setup the way I want. Still feels very clunky moving around. No straif or dodge?

I played the starter missions and got some guns, mining gear and a buggy car. So far pretty simple, almost to simple. Shot some animals (really hope this isn't what hunting is going to be) did a little mining for a mission (mining seems interesting) and then it supposedly sent me to Port Atlantis but I ended up at Camp Icarus instead.

I was under the impression this game had more mature people in it but not so much at Camp Icarus. Seemed like a bunch of show offs putting their fancy vehicles all over, humping the AFK female avatars and acting generally immature. Was having flash backs of Stormwind City in WoW.

As I was trying to do my missions I kept getting spammed with a popup from people wanting to be a mentor (or be my mentor?). No one talked to me first or anything so I just declined. Not interested in getting spammed popups every few seconds. I finally finished my missions in that area and moved on to Port Atlantis as it was not to far away. Once at Port Atlantis I found A few more missions that showed you how to do a few things but it all seemed common sense stuff for the most part. I was pretty disappointed to find these large fancy buildings but nothing really happening there.

I found a TP and ended up in New Oxford. Was not to sure what to really do at this point so I decided to use the remainder of the mining stuff I got in the missions. I tried but said I could not mine in this zone so I picked a direction and started running. After a while I tried again and still would not let me mine so I kept running... Eventually it let me mine. I dropped a few probes and nothing, then finally I got a claim thingy. I eventually figured out how to find the marker (duh arrows on the finder thing blinking) and went to it. I extracted some Alicennies Liquid and then some Typonolic Steam. I then ran out of probes. At that point I remembered I had a car and decided to explore a bit. Ended up at Treasure Island. . Being I ran out of mining stuff I decided to look at the auction and see how much stuff costs as I must get some type of clothes. I am not running around like an escaped prisoner. I also wanted to see how much flying vehicles cost and how much more mining stuff costs.

I am still not sure how to read this auction interface. I can't seem to find an actual total for something. Spoiled on WoWs auction system I guess.

I figured out the mining stuff was in the trade terminal with some other basic stuff but no basic clothes... Although there was some armor. I may just get some armor for nothing else but to look decent. Still hashing that out. Being this is the first of the month I decided to deposit $25USD (yea, tried that sweating thing, no thanks) and got 240.10PED out of it. Now to get some kind of clothes, maybe a flying vehicle. and some more mining stuff..... Will see how far $25USD goes.

I also spent some time trying to figure out to use the screen shot system in this game. After extensive research it appears there is not one? I am pretty baffled on that. Making easy in game snapshots that people can easily upload to their forums and websites is such a basic and easy form of free advertising. So I got the free versions of fraps. However I will have to dust off Photoshop to convert to jpg if I end up uploading anything. No big deal to me as I use Photoshop and Gimp a lot for SL but the average player may find it troublesome. There really should be an in game screenshot system.

Anyway for now I am off to buy some stuff and start playing. Will report back later.

 

[N. Radioactive]

Welcome to EU! I hope you have a good stay in this crazy universe.

I have been researching EU for a week now and very uncertain it is worth the cost. I see some people are putting ridiculous amounts of USD into the game every month and figured I would try and find out why.

People do spend crazy amounts of money here sometimes. You can really put in an much or as little as you want.

Still feels very clunky moving around. No straif or dodge?

Dodging in EU is all based on avatar skill. At least when it comes to hunting. Running around when being attacked by a mob doesn't really do much for evading attacks. You should be able to straif tho.

I was under the impression this game had more mature people in it but not so much at Camp Icarus. Seemed like a bunch of show offs putting their fancy vehicles all over, humping the AFK female avatars and acting generally immature. Was having flash backs of Stormwind City in WoW.

On average the playerbase is quite mature. New arrival areas tend to attract all kinds of crazies tho If you're looking for a better hangout try going to Twin Peaks. It's the trading center of EU.

I figured out the mining stuff was in the trade terminal with some other basic stuff but no basic clothes... Although there was some armor. I may just get some armor for nothing else but to look decent. Still hashing that out. Being this is the first of the month I decided to deposit $25USD (yea, tried that sweating thing, no thanks) and got 240.10PED out of it. Now to get some kind of clothes, maybe a flying vehicle. and some more mining stuff..... Will see how far $25USD goes.

There are no clothing in TT. That's all bought from other players. I wouldn't recommend buying armor from the TT. A set of Pixie is considered a good starter armor. You can make 1 PED go a long way if you play smart. I would look up info on hunting eco if you're looking to hunt. There's tonnes of other info on the net. entropiawiki.com is a great resource too.

Well that's my 2 PEC. Good luck and have fun!

 

[the-unknown]

Welcome to Entropia Universe.

You may want to hold off on clothes for a while till you get your essentials and have some idea on what is best suited for your play style.

Being this is the first of the month I decided to deposit $25USD (yea, tried that sweating thing, no thanks) and got 240.10PED out of it. Now to get some kind of clothes, maybe a flying vehicle. and some more mining stuff..... Will see how far $25USD goes.

 

[Nissa]

I got my first private message today while browsing the auction for clothes (never did get any).

Him: "Hi there, new here?"
Me: "hi, whats up?"
Him: "Nothing special but I would like to ask you something?"
Me: "what?"
Him: "Well I don't want to be rude, but I wonder if u could take ur shirt off"
Me: "what for?"
Him: "cuz I would like to see what u have under"
Me:

Still waiting for those more mature players.

Anyway I bought a flying VOTL, the trade terminal mining finder, harvester, refiner and 100 survey probes. I also got some oil, ammo and a vehicle repair thingy.

After all that I was down from 240PED to 89PED.

I went out and dropped 100 probes for matter. the probes were 50PED and I got this out of it;

29.89PED of oil
1.32PED Force nexus
4.12PED Melchi Water
total: 35.33PED for loss off 14.67PED on just the probes. About 70% return. I figure that is not to bad for 1st day mining.

I did do a little hunting today but really don't understand the allure. It is by far the worst character to NPC interaction I have seen since the original DOOM. Maybe people just do it for the loot?

Anyway mining seems to somewhat interesting. I think I will go in that direction for a main profession. Tomorrow I will drop another 100 probes but for ore this time. I think I will start recording in more detail my finds to look for patterns. I will also see if I can can dig up mining maps in the forums to see what minerals are where.

I got a ton of oil today. Tomorrow I will refine it and probably just keep it for vehicle use. I think that will be enough for quite some time as I didn't use much today. Mostly was on foot and in my buggy. Used the VTOL a few times but it isn't worth using unless in a bind. Nice to have though.

I will also start do the TP runs tomorrow.

 

[Vadio]

Focus in ore only since have better markup

second learn use mininglog.com

 

[strekepeke]

you find a good guide to start at rp.apachenet.de
its in English, little bit outdated but still a must read

it takes time to learn this game

 

[arejaytee]

Check out http://www.mininglog.com/ if you are thinking about making Mining your main profession.

Has some nice mining maps for you to look at also.

 

[il]

welcome to EU!

some tips:

-start a spreadsheet of your spendings using excel or openoffice

as you already wrote you calculated your returns on the first run *thumbs up

even as an experienced player its easy to get lost with all what you spent


-there is market value/history to nearly any item

items that have no market history cant beauctioned and weekly+monthly markup will give you
a general idea what stuff is worth with the daily value giving you the current trend ..

also the number of sold units gives you an idea if this item is sellable or not >


-for screenshots http://www.entropialife.com is commonly used

if catches screens of your globals and other fancy features information


-i normally advice every newbie that mining is the profession with the least risk and the lowest bankroll needed ingame(as far as unamped and not on foma or in hell)

like meantioned above here is a mining map:

http://www.mininglog.com/maps.php

the programm offered on the site is good but doesnt run with the entropialife tracker together and
is a bit difficult to set up and use


-for general info this site is used: http://www.entropiawiki.com/Page.aspx?page=Main+Page

maps/mission/items and all that


-you can choose a mentor and if you finish the discipleship you are rewarded
with a nice armor set(adj. pixie)

as your using the forum you can also add ppl that you think are suited via j+player register

and sent them a personal message(PM) and also look for mentors over the mentor thing menu ingame


-with space thrusters(rockets) attachable to your Vtol/sleipnir you can visit other planets

be advised space is lootable PVP same as some red areas on planets

all planets have some form of newbie missions and stuff you can collect including different types of clothes


-you can also check some shops in side malls..
i think leeloo is the most skilled colorer and has a shop in twin peaks and sells stuff ofc


well have fun i could write more but i hope it helps

^_°

 

[Nissa]

I spent 100PED on probes and got the following:

Lysterium 29.25PED
Balkar 9.36PED
Zinc 4.80PED
Narcanisum 5.04PED
Cumbriz 12.15PED
Blausariam 3.0PED
Copper 2.40PED
Erdorium 2.8PED
Caldorite 20.01PED
-------------------
total: 89.71PED tt value. Almost 90% return tt value and maybe closer to 95% if I get what I put it for in auction.

Still not to bad being I had no real plan. I was just dropping probes randomly while running around looking for teleports.


I did try mininglog but it is more complicated than I need. they do have a nice map on their website with what can be found were. That is all I need to start planning some basic routes. So far it seems no plan at all is working ok though.

I did make it to twin Peaks. People going on about how they ripped the other off and how all sales are final... lol. Had to turn trade chat off as to much info going through it. Somehow I managed NOT to get the TP their so I have to go back. Maybe it will have more pleasant conversation going on.

First game ever that I actually fell asleep while playing. Running along and dosed off a few time. Luckily just ran into objects and got stuck.

 

[il]

nice!

next time your in twin you can accept the daikiba/shinkiba mission on the balcony

 

[Nissa]

I have been trying to play today. First it would not let me connect.Then it said server you are in is down then I play a little bit then disconnect, play a little bit disconnect...... Managed to get a few hours in GW2 with out any problems at least.

Will give it a few more tries in EU but if it keeps disconnecting off to GW2 and SL for the rest of the free time I have today.

Also got most of my auction stuff sold and got a decent markup. Looks like I got about 97% return on the probes. Decay cost me a few ped though. Hopefully I can get some mining done if I don't keep getting DC'ed.

 

[Nissa]

Managed to play this time. I found a nice peaceful mining spot with few mobs and fell asleep again. this time I dies and ended up way away from the spot. I dunno why it makes me so sleepy.

Anyway I managed to drop 100PED in probes.

Caldorite 8.33PED
Cumbriz 5.50PED
Blasariam 2.80PED
Copper 8.80PED
Niksarium 3.25PED
Gazzurdite 5.25PED
Lysterium 23.37PED
Belkar 19.32PED
-------------------
total 76.82PED

77% tt return. Markup will it to about 85%. Not the best run but not to bad.

My starter vehicle is about done for so going to have to get a new one. Prolly be stuck with one of those ugly red Hummer wannabe things.

Still got no clothes or armor. People seem to want me in my undies. I notice a lot of other females running around in undies, maybe that's expected here. Anyway I saw some Arkadia clothes and they look ok. I may just go to Arkadia next time I can deposit.

In the mean time I am going to buy as many probes as I can get until I am empty on PED and go from there. Doing a few mission now and then and still got a lot of TP's to find.

Back to work in RL tomorrow so may not play much till next weekend. Have role plays to do in SL weeknights that take up most my free time which isn't much on work days.

 

[robotech master]

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?223039-Beginner-guide-Non-Depositors-guide


One of the better guides was posted earlier but you can read this one as well to help you out a bit in learning some of the data tools.

In simple terms your going to need to do alot of reading to really get anywhere in game. Its possible from day 1 to be at least breaking even or better but you need huge sums of knowledge to do it. I would also say that from the sound of it you should hold on off getting a mentor. If your willing to do the basic research yourself then you can be really picky about your mentor and hopefully get some more advanced knowledge from them thats not so easily researched.

I would strongly say spend a good week or so reading alot as the fact you can easily lose alot of money really quick in this game.

 

[Vedder]

Welcome to Entropia!

Hope you'll enojy your stay.

 

[Nissa]

I managed to play this evening and dropped another 100PED in probes. Tonight luck was not on my side.

Belkar 9.16
Lyst 10.26
Iron 2.47
Cumbriz 7.95
Copper 7.20
Zinc 12.10
--------------
total 49.14.

About 49% return TT value and not much more in MU on these.

I did get a PM here in the forums and the person thought I was running around in my undies and that's why I was getting less than respectful comments. No this is not the case. I am in my stock Orange prison clothes. I did however make an avatar that is fairly on the porn star side. Tall, nicely formed rear and large breasts. This was not intentional as it looked different in the avatar creator thingy. Unfortunately my attention must not have been its sharpest cause I found out later I could have changed before I left the starting area. Not to concerned because I do like the look overall. The breasts are a little on the large side however but its fine.

I did ask around a little why people were in undies and got a few various remarks. Some said they like looking sexy to break up the monotony and other said there was some dispute with MindArk about clothes or armor at some point and going in undies was their form of protesting.

I certainly don't mind looking good with a high hint of sexy but I don't want to get all kinds derogatory comments. I am all for more adult RP but I mainly do that in SL and it is actually role play which I find lacking in this game.

On another note I am debating weather to deposit more in the near future or just go play my other MMO's. I do like mining and exploring but not sure it is worth it. the other games I listed in my OP are much more fun than trying not to deposit. Seriously I can't believe people spend HOURS sweating to get 20cents USD in PED. I can go to my local Wall Mart and pick dropped change off the parking lot and make more money per hour. I understand some see it as a challenge and more power to you to prove it can be done, but while you are doing that I will being do other things that are much more exciting to me.

It isn't the money, I am more than well off enough to drop the money. I spent a few thousand USD in SL over the years but it was well worth it. I do not at this point see it worth it in EU. It is becoming clear why EU has not gained much attraction over the years. It defiantly is not a regular MMO. Not saying that is bad, but the way it is setup now is not in favor of attracting lots of staying users. They need to significantly lower the cost to play and significantly update the game mechanics. It appears they are trying to do so with the quest system and now I hear they are trying to update the social aspect however I believe they are way to far behind and the cost of playing is far to extreme.

I will keep playing as much as I can until I completely run out of the money I already put in. At that point I will decide if it is worth sticking around. Between my indoor hydroponic garden and my other MMOs there is a LOT of competition for my free time though.

 

[Vadio]

well 44% its something very very wrong
(well i know worst tt your can get in this dont matter how bad your do its 30%) but 44% in mining without amp?
near impossible

 

[Nissa]

well 44% its something very very wrong
(well i know worst tt your can get in this dont matter how bad your do its 30%) but 44% in mining without amp?
near impossible

I am still using the Trade Terminal finder. I did make lvl 1 yesterday in mining. Maybe I should have got a better finder. I am not sure about amp but pretty sure I did not do it. Next time I have time to play I will round up as much PED as I have left and get as many probes as I can and try again in the same area to see if it is just the area that is bad. I was getting a lot of rubber banding and lag there. I was reading up a bit on mining depth of finders and possible I was in area that my finder can't go deep enough. Not sure what the TT finder depth is.

 

[robotech master]

On another note I am debating weather to deposit more in the near future or just go play my other MMO's. I do like mining and exploring but not sure it is worth it. the other games I listed in my OP are much more fun than trying not to deposit. Seriously I can't believe people spend HOURS sweating to get 20cents USD in PED. I can go to my local Wall Mart and pick dropped change off the parking lot and make more money per hour. I understand some see it as a challenge and more power to you to prove it can be done, but while you are doing that I will being do other things that are much more exciting to me.

Lot of reasons why people sweat... bit of a short list.

Socialize, group sweating is a great place to trade info, news, and other things.
Grind, many people like to grind and the challenge of grinding.
Time sink, alot of ppl play this game as a time sink/ADHD muti-task game.

People who want to make money in the game generally don't sweat as you are correct you'll make nothing.

 

[Vadio]

pro tip : DONT USE ENHACER and DONT USE AMP
your gonna be fine at end

if your using Z1 / F101
first all your need mapping areas using Rookie , Genesis , ARC001 , any other with 2 probe per ore , 1 for enmater and mapping , yes it take long long time but at end your have nice map , and alot skills

for now forget hof/global/rares/and "new finders" focus in get profit first

 

[Nissa]

I have come to the conclusion that I am going to purse mining and exploration and probably make another deposit soon for more mining probes.

I have decided to ignore mininglog website and find stuff for myself. Sometimes to much information kills the game. I am going to make my own maps and come up with my own routes and procedures. Otherwise what's the challenge?

I am pretty sure I am headed to Arkadia at this point as some people have suggested in pm's. Not sure if I will post back here as these forums seem all but dead for whatever reason. If I move to Arkadia I will prolly just find their forums.

 

[Zenzile]

I have come to the conclusion that I am going to purse mining and exploration and probably make another deposit soon for more mining probes.

I have decided to ignore mininglog website and find stuff for myself. Sometimes to much information kills the game. I am going to make my own maps and come up with my own routes and procedures. Otherwise what's the challenge?

I am pretty sure I am headed to Arkadia at this point as some people have suggested in pm's. Not sure if I will post back here as these forums seem all but dead for whatever reason. If I move to Arkadia I will prolly just find their forums.

Dont get cocky lol. I do advise going off others mistakes so you dont make the same yourself. I get what you are saying with the challenge part but finding materials doesnt mean shit in mining, they are just mu basically. The bulk of mining is figuring how the system works. Basically by ignoring info out there on ores, you are screwing yourself in markup. Ill give you a tip though, Rocktropia has (in the right spots) an average markup of 130%. Get to know people but dont go off what everyone says as most are wrong including the uber miners. The uber miners of course know a ton but they are also missing a bit.

 

[Nissa]

Dont get cocky lol. I do advise going off others mistakes so you dont make the same yourself. I get what you are saying with the challenge part but finding materials doesnt mean shit in mining, they are just mu basically. The bulk of mining is figuring how the system works. Basically by ignoring info out there on ores, you are screwing yourself in markup. Ill give you a tip though, Rocktropia has (in the right spots) an average markup of 130%. Get to know people but dont go off what everyone says as most are wrong including the uber miners. The uber miners of course know a ton but they are also missing a bit.

I hear you but I am not to interested in making a profit. My RL hydroponic garden hobby will make me far more money than I ever will in EU let alone my 40+hr a week day job. However I have no intention of blowing a bunch of money here either. So far I am very ok with my returns. The owners of the game (checked out their financial data today) need cash badly to keep this ship afloat. One more year of no profit and they will be out of cash on hand. I am not going to go out of my way to be a freeloader here. I would rather lose a little and the game survives than leach the system and the game goes a way. Even with the faults of this game they put up a lot of time and money keeping it going.


Events for today;

I managed to scrounge up 80PED and bought probes.

I went to the same place I went yesterday that had the bad run.

Belkar 25.68PED (had my first "medium" claim)
Copper 38.88PED
Erodium 6.00PED
-------------------
total 70.56PED. 88% return tt

I put them in auction, after markup $79PED. So I almost broke even today.

After the mining run I went to check out Cornith Bay makeover. It looks pretty good. It is very familiar to a place in Star Wars the Old Republic while driving through a particular canyon.

I think I will fully explore Caly before checking out Arkadia.

 

[Zenzile]

I hear you but I am not to interested in making a profit. My RL hydroponic garden hobby will make me far more money than I ever will in EU let alone my 40+hr a week day job. However I have no intention of blowing a bunch of money here either. So far I am very ok with my returns. The owners of the game (checked out their financial data today) need cash badly to keep this ship afloat. One more year of no profit and they will be out of cash on hand. I am not going to go out of my way to be a freeloader here. I would rather lose a little and the game survives than leach the system and the game goes a way. Even with the faults of this game they put up a lot of time and money keeping it going.


Events for today;

I managed to scrounge up 80PED and bought probes.

I went to the same place I went yesterday that had the bad run.

Belkar 25.68PED (had my first "medium" claim)
Copper 38.88PED
Erodium 6.00PED
-------------------
total 70.56PED. 88% return tt

I put them in auction, after markup $79PED. So I almost broke even today.

After the mining run I went to check out Cornith Bay makeover. It looks pretty good. It is very familiar to a place in Star Wars the Old Republic while driving through a particular canyon.

I think I will fully explore Caly before checking out Arkadia.

Im surprised. Usually the noobs here come in trying to profit and say they they will get pixi and hunt eco, lol. Anyway good luck and glad to have you here! Btw you dont hurt the company if you dont withdraw. Its not like you create ped from mining, you make money from other players off mu. Anyway my profit goal is just to get cool guns in hunting or a ul amp/etc. Gl Nissa you seem like a nice player to have here.

 

[Nissa]

Im surprised. Usually the noobs here come in trying to profit and say they they will get pixi and hunt eco, lol. Anyway good luck and glad to have you here! Btw you dont hurt the company if you dont withdraw. Its not like you create ped from mining, you make money from other players off mu. Anyway my profit goal is just to get cool guns in hunting or a ul amp/etc. Gl Nissa you seem like a nice player to have here.

I have many years experience with other online games and one particular other RCE so I may have an advantage as of what to expect. One thing I learned in life is if it is to good to be true it is. All these get rich quick schemes actually DO work, but only for the person selling you the scheme. They are laughing all the way to the bank on the money you just gave them. Unfortunately MA presents this game as a get rich quick scheme. One recent example is Monria that new moon. They claim they are trying to tailor to new players and gain player retention yet on the very front page of their site they have the article about the 330K HOF. Failed their agenda before they even started. People will join because of that, find out they need to invest a small fortune, loose said small fortune and scream scam the rest of their life and tell everybody never to play the game.

Back to my journal. Last night my auctions mostly sold before I logged so I have enough cash to by a space thruster for my VTOL. I am going to head to Arkadia and check it out. I am pretty certain I will be back to Caly though. yesterday I did see some good stuff at Corinthian Bay. First time I saw people actually playing and having fun and not arguing and bickering. Also I have a ton of exploration to finish. However I hear there is some quest armor and some decent clothes in Arkadia so I am going to gather what I can, explore it there and then see what happens. I will continue to update here also though.

 

[il]

maybe you meet kitten from delta force

she resides in quarry with a shop as well

kitten and greenleaf are arkadia advisors

normal players that help newcomers

greenleaf runs a mining company

 

[Nissa]

Copy and paste what I posted in Arkadia Forum.

I explored a bit and dropped 50PED in probes.
Zinc 5.70
Caldorite 12.07
Wenrex 1.36
Gaganite 3.00
-----------------
total: 22.13PED tt return. 44% tt return. Ouch.

The landscape is much more plain and easy to navigate than what I experienced on Caly. Undecided if that is good or bad. Came across 2 other avatars in the last hour. Pretty dead. Hope everyone is just playing on Calys events and will come back. However Entropia life says only 50 entropia life clients active in all of Entropia.

I deposited $25USD when I started Sunday. As of now not sure it is worth depoing anymore. Under pressure to re-sub EvE account. Will sleep on it.

 

[Zorander]

I am not going to go out of my way to be a freeloader here. I would rather lose a little and the game survives than leach the system and the game goes a way. Even with the faults of this game they put up a lot of time and money keeping it going.

If you profit, don't be confused as to where that profit comes from. MindArk isn't paying you, other players are. In order for you to profit, someone has to deposit. You won't consistently make over 100% TT returns and so any profit is from MU, MU paid by other players, not by MindArk.

That said, play in a way that is fun for you, just don't be worried about helping out good ol' MA by not profiting

 

[Nissa]

I understand were the MU comes from, however if I don't use that profit for an eventual loss to MA, MA will not be in business much longer. Lets look at their financial reports.

Net profit for 2008: +7.3 million SEK
Net profit for 2009: -1.6 million SEK
Net profit for 2010: -11.7 million SEK
Net Profit for 2011: -23.7 million SEK
Net Profit for 2012: -27 million SEK
http://www.mindark.com/investor-relations/financial-reports/

As long as current players concentrate on profit instead of using that for decay, or whatever else MA makes money on, then MA will either have to pack it up, sell out or significantly change its RCE system. If the game is good I have no problem sending money MA's way. However I am not convinced this game is that good. I put $25USD in this game 4 days ago and so far I am not that impressed. However I been playing MMO's, multiplayer and stand alone games since 2000. I maybe a hard sell.

All this is of course just my opinion after studying the game for 2 weeks and playing it for 4 days. There has to be a lot I am missing for people to be spending ridiculous amounts of money here.

 

[Zorander]

Most of use have seen MAs financials, they are a bit grim. But the game has also grown considerably and the costs for development should slow over time.

Anyhow, if you want to help MA all you can do is cycle your PED. Every pec of decay is a pec that MA isn't liable to pay out in a withdrawal. But profiting while cycling just means you will have more of a bankroll, which means you can hunt / mine / craft bigger, which means you cycle PED faster. The more you make, the more MA makes as long as you're playing the game

 

[Nissa]

Most of use have seen MAs financials, they are a bit grim. But the game has also grown considerably and the costs for development should slow over time.

Anyhow, if you want to help MA all you can do is cycle your PED. Every pec of decay is a pec that MA isn't liable to pay out in a withdrawal. But profiting while cycling just means you will have more of a bankroll, which means you can hunt / mine / craft bigger, which means you cycle PED faster. The more you make, the more MA makes as long as you're playing the game

Don't mix up size of the game and growth of the game. Just because you make the game bigger in scale does not mean people will stay to play. If the game mechanics are flawed it is irrelevant how big the game is, only a niche amount of people will want to play it (as that seems the case).

Cycling PED unfortunately isn't working. I can only play about 45mins a day with the PED I got, then I have to put it in auction and wait until it sells before I can use it again. The way they have the loot setup I have to have at very least 100PED in probes to make enough return to continue playing the next day. This game so far is not worth buying more PED and I think all the people that start and quit after a week would agree. 1000PED in probes would be more ideal because I could continuously sell stuff but I can't justify putting that kind of USD in this game. It really isn't that good unless maybe you are a gambling addict and must get that bigger lootz.

Other games you may pay a $15 sub fee but you can play 100% of the time for that month. Here you drop $25 and can only play for 45mins to an hour a day. Sure you can be in game 100% of the time but unless you are doing something that requires cycling PEDS it isn't worth being logged in. If you are not logged in then you are getting hooked on something else and won't bother returning.