Edit: deleted. broke my own rule in less than a day. Fail.
I missed it
There there, feel
PS: I would qualify this as epic failure
I have 92% TT return counting ALL expenses (ammo, fap, armor, gun, amp, refiner, TP and so on)
If I would just count ammo+gun I would be over 100% but why should I?
Edit: Why bump a 5 month old post Ermik?
I have 92% TT return counting ALL expenses (ammo, fap, armor, gun, amp, refiner, TP and so on)
If I would just count ammo+gun I would be over 100% but why should I?
If you just choose to count some of you expenses you are stupid! Learn how to do a budget.
Is it a coincidence that all the ppl with several 1000 posts (in the forum) lose money all the time (in game). They say they know what to do and how to do it...
What I don't get is why you should count in any other way than I do... I want to know if I lose money when I hunt! Simple, right? How do you do that? Fuck all theories and stuff like that and trying to get ahead. You compare all you expenses with all your income. It does not have to be harder than that so why complicate everything so much
You can choose between:
#1 This, this and this mater and not to forget this and that in combination with that matters.
#2 Do a simple budget over you PED ingame to see if you do well or not. If you lose, change.
Trolling is about inducing negative emotions, not about making non-logical remarks.
Also, as previously stated (in this bloody thread even), standard doesn't rule out chance, and chance is particularly effective at warping results, especially in small segments.
The OP doesn't insinuate anything. Danimal on the other hand goes fists first by basically stating "lawl ur wr0ng, cus 10min PA n00bs c4n hof!!11oneeleven".
Tone of voice is important.
If it was just a neutral question I wouldn't had made any remarks whatsoever, and just answered it. However, load a question with insinuations, a question that is as easily answered as doing a forum search, and I'll be telling you to bugger off. An eye for an eye.
for the same reason you choose to make a comment in a recently bumped 5 month old thread.
becouse if you fap while taking damage and don't shoot, when u pay your fapping and armor bill you have to get magicaly some loot without killing a mob. 92% of ALL your expenses, but I guess you don't
Stop thinking so much. Kill, loot, rinse and repeat.
I use simple logic to a simple problem.
I guess you chose #1
yes , no need to keep track of everything.
just hunt and have fun , but follow some basic rules and there will be no need to tend to details all day long.
myself i live by one single rule, and its serving me well so far.
"Stay close to tt"
what im saying is, if i stay close to tt as my cost, i have affected the only thing i can affect , my cost.
since its not possible to affect the loot, only the cost , why worry about loot
Pay attention to cost and have fun, loot will come naturally
Guys, I am convonced that the suppossed 90% return is based on your deposits ( when the 90% return will hit it depends on your skill and the tools you use...I think)
How can you base the 90% return on tt spent? You can't! Why? Because let's say you deposit 1K usd, depending on your skill to play the game you can cycle those peds may many time before loosing them thus you can have about 8K peds spent on just 1K deposit ( yes, I'm talking about recycling)
I think the correct phrase would be the 90% return is based on the tt value LOST because when you reclycle you spend alot more then you deposit untill all your peds are gone
And if you think.....the tt lost is in almost all cases the tt deposited so 90% return is based on you LOST DEPOSITS
I seriously don;t thing that it's based on something else, it would make no sense
I can deposit 1k usd and spend 5K before loosing them, I know it sounds wird but that's just is
Imagine like this 1K peds splitted in 100ped /hunt
when your hunt is over you came back with 80 peds => 100 spent /980 left
another 100 ped/hunt, return 80 peds => another 100 spent /960 left
If you followed you can resume that you have spent 200 peds so far and still having 960
960+200 =1160 peds----more than you have deposited, that's why you can spent alot more than you have deposited, thus it would be stupid to base the return on just that ( would be nice though )
Guys, I am convonced that the suppossed 90% return is based on your deposits ( when the 90% return will hit it depends on your skill and the tools you use...I think)
How can you base the 90% return on tt spent? You can't! Why? Because let's say you deposit 1K usd, depending on your skill to play the game you can cycle those peds may many time before loosing them thus you can have about 8K peds spent on just 1K deposit ( yes, I'm talking about recycling)
I think the correct phrase would be the 90% return is based on the tt value LOST because when you reclycle you spend alot more then you deposit untill all your peds are gone
And if you think.....the tt lost is in almost all cases the tt deposited so 90% return is based on you LOST DEPOSITS
I seriously don;t thing that it's based on something else, it would make no sense
I can deposit 1k usd and spend 5K before loosing them, I know it sounds wird but that's just is
Imagine like this 1K peds splitted in 100ped /hunt
when your hunt is over you came back with 80 peds => 100 spent /980 left
another 100 ped/hunt, return 80 peds => another 100 spent /960 left
If you followed you can resume that you have spent 200 peds so far and still having 960
960+200 =1160 peds----more than you have deposited, that's why you can spent alot more than you have deposited, thus it would be stupid to base the return on just that ( would be nice though )
it's 90% out of #6. That includes money spending on -say - pk in the ring at twins.
"Stay close to tt"
what im saying is, if i stay close to tt as my cost, i have affected the only thing i can affect , my cost.
since its not possible to affect the loot, only the cost , why worry about loot
Pay attention to cost and have fun, loot will come naturally
Ace, what MA have stated is related to the deposit as an action
return is based on spendings so I speak here for the people who deposits in order to play, not those who stay 6 months to sweat and then go for a 100 argonauts hunt
It's all related to the spent amount ( from where you have that doesn;t matter ) but in the case of people who deposits it's clearly from where the spent money are, that's why I am saying that return is based on deposited lost amount,
As far a 90% return as a general ideea, I think that is true although if you think you loose about 13% of deposted money not only 10%, because 3,5% are taken when you deposit, I think that MA should have made this game with 100% return on let;s say 1K usd rollout because they would have gained money from deposits , but that would not be enough to buy a Lambo
In my opinion this game can be cheap to play but not that fun, if you want to have fun is a very expensive game to play ( where I am now lvl 42 HIT I think a rollout of about 2K USD/month will be enough so I can play with no wories, that is very expensive)
I think i am just confused. MA's model is based on recieving money from decay (plus a few extras). So it is irrelavent how that money got to your ped card.
I disagree with this part... you can affect your loot by choosing mobs ... and thereby you can affect MU of the loot you get ....
You have reason almost at all. However if someone have a fat ped card, let him to recycle peds with a great turnover of PEDs, at very high velocity. (And besides to have enough support for bad cycles of loot.) Then, you have reason completely is decay and not deposits, but you can reach the 90% RoR, with a fat ped card very rapidly.
Returning to the matter of this post, ¿How is your opinion about my previos post?
But in my opinion you made good valid points. Even if i had to read it several times to understand lol. I think i need more coffee!!!
Rgds
Ace