Sand King No-Looter
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It didn't time out, it was killed in less then 4 minutes.
There was no "corpse' since so many ppl are clicking so fast that the 'corpse' animation don't have time to show after HP reached 0.
When it died there was an announcement: "The sand king has been killed\defeated" or whatever. Also it went down quite fast, as DRDOOM said, 100+ ppl right clicking to loot made it impossible to see the corpse. You say it could have timed out, but if its like other wave bosses it wont despawn even if the time run out. When the timer runs out there simply wont be a new wave... (yes i've tested this with the boss in the shinkiba event at chugs)
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I also saw the message saying The Sand King was defeated. I unfortunately do not have a screenshot, and it is not logged in chat.log.
I think it spawned around 17:27:30, possibly as early as 17:27:15. It was killed at 17:32:11. Is the timeout on The Sand King set to 5 minutes or even less?
Furthermore, these 2 fragments from 2 chatlogs show a skill bonus with the mob dying (double skillgain at same time as next wave event message). These would not happen unless the mob was killed.
I think it spawned around 17:27:30, possibly as early as 17:27:15. It was killed at 17:32:11. Is the timeout on The Sand King set to 5 minutes or even less?
Furthermore, these 2 fragments from 2 chatlogs show a skill bonus with the mob dying (double skillgain at same time as next wave event message). These would not happen unless the mob was killed.
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2011-10-30 17:32:08 [Local] [] You inflicted 83.7 points of damage.
2011-10-30 17:32:08 [Local] [] You inflicted 109.9 points of damage.
2011-10-30 17:32:08 [Local] [] HN xlHNcc Song found a deposit (Durulium Stone) with a value of 92 PED!
2011-10-30 17:32:09 [Local] [] MISS
2011-10-30 17:32:10 [Local] [] You inflicted 103.2 points of damage.
2011-10-30 17:32:10 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Laser Weaponry Technology skill.
2011-10-30 17:32:10 [Local] [] Frank tanor Tanor killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 66 PED!
2011-10-30 17:32:11 [Local] [] You inflicted 69.7 points of damage.
2011-10-30 17:32:11 [Local] [] Kyron Kyron Mister found a deposit (Melchi Water) with a value of 77 PED at F.O.M.A Main Arena!
2011-10-30 17:32:11 [Local] [] You have gained Coolness.
2011-10-30 17:32:11 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Handgun skill.
2011-10-30 17:32:11 [Local] [] Wave event will be available again at 2011-10-30 20:32:11.
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2011-10-30 17:32:08 [Local] [] MISS
2011-10-30 17:32:09 [Local] [] Frank tanor Tanor killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 66 PED!
2011-10-30 17:32:09 [Local] [] Kyron Kyron Mister found a deposit (Melchi Water) with a value of 77 PED at F.O.M.A Main Arena!
2011-10-30 17:32:09 [Local] [] MISS
2011-10-30 17:32:10 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Combat Sense skill.
2011-10-30 17:32:10 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Ranged Damage Assessment skill.
2011-10-30 17:32:10 [Local] [] Wave event will be available again at 2011-10-30 20:32:11.
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Clearly it was killed. 20 min timeout rule
Clearly it was looted.
Clearly one person is keeping quiet to avoid being lynched.
And to troll the violins.
Edit: And clearly Kim has not the first clue of the mechanics of EU. Epic lol.
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Ok, everbody has the right of privacy. But seriously, that person is not "guilty" in any way. It is not his/her fault to get the (maybe) only Item.
So it would help much if that person would raise up his/her head. This will end speculations about "no loot" or "small loot".
If that person don't want to go public, PM someone you trust and tell him about, so that person can post it without giving your name to public.
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I sincerely doubt it. Minimum loot on The Sand King should be 450+ PED. Something else is wrong for it not to global.
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While I myself find the scenario of a subglobal loot to be the least likelyof the scenarios, i find it far from impossible.
The first Scylla dropped what,324peds? That must have had 3kped pumped into it. Levi Domi's and Longtooth give frequent no-loot, (200*0=?)and atrox queens now and again gave almost nothing.
What are you basing this minimumloot 450ped value on?
Another scenario could be that it was xxxpeds, but due to server lag it skipped the global message (I have seen 20kloots go nonhoffed/nonreported).
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Can`t MA check on his own logs if there was any loot?
I am certain like many i have gotten a "sandking got defeated" message. Can`t remember if there was a corpse due so many ppl in front of me. Don`t know why that would matter since we got that message. Doesn`t that say enough about his death?
I am certain like many i have gotten a "sandking got defeated" message. Can`t remember if there was a corpse due so many ppl in front of me. Don`t know why that would matter since we got that message. Doesn`t that say enough about his death?
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I think it is worrying on 3 counts,
1) MA (Kim) has said that this mob should at least global and it hasn't done, implying a bug in the loot system.
2) MA (Kim) can't find the reason behind it, implying that system is working as intended.
3) There doen't appear to be a log that says that this mob dropped loot X.
Most likely scenario is that 1 avatar got lucky with a sub 50 ped item, but it is not good to leave 100 + avatars scratching there heads wondering what happend.
1) MA (Kim) has said that this mob should at least global and it hasn't done, implying a bug in the loot system.
2) MA (Kim) can't find the reason behind it, implying that system is working as intended.
3) There doen't appear to be a log that says that this mob dropped loot X.
Most likely scenario is that 1 avatar got lucky with a sub 50 ped item, but it is not good to leave 100 + avatars scratching there heads wondering what happend.
What? A mob with a lot less HP dropped ONLY 324ped, we are debating a ~1 million hp mob dropping at best, under 50ped loot. I dont get where you are going with this.
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sux bigtime
Wtf u dont keep logs?
I dident see the corps but it did say sandking was defeted
Its a bug.
Refund player or else..
p.s goodluck on future wavespawns.
Anders
Wtf u dont keep logs?
I dident see the corps but it did say sandking was defeted
Its a bug.
Refund player or else..
p.s goodluck on future wavespawns.
Anders
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there was a msg , the sand king was defetead, there are atleast 20 players that can vouch for it, so the sand king was definatly died withtin the time limit!, there was ALOT of fire power out there for the sand king, it ectually got killed really really quick, probably about 5 minutes max, i think even less..
so i think MA should just check thier LOGs see what happened and tell us, how can this thing be a mystery for so long?! a day is ok, but its been way too long, us player shoudlnt speculate, MA must have the info on what happened, if they dont, they should find a way to refund the players with atleast what they used on ammo burn and decay.
i am ok with not getting the loot, but i atleast wanna know it did give loot, and if its a no looter, then i want a msg that the creature contained no loot.
MA, be responsbile, reasearch what happened, and give us a straight answer allready?!, 14 pages of speculation just make EU and MA like an amature company that dont care less about its costumers.
so i think MA should just check thier LOGs see what happened and tell us, how can this thing be a mystery for so long?! a day is ok, but its been way too long, us player shoudlnt speculate, MA must have the info on what happened, if they dont, they should find a way to refund the players with atleast what they used on ammo burn and decay.
i am ok with not getting the loot, but i atleast wanna know it did give loot, and if its a no looter, then i want a msg that the creature contained no loot.
MA, be responsbile, reasearch what happened, and give us a straight answer allready?!, 14 pages of speculation just make EU and MA like an amature company that dont care less about its costumers.
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Refund?? What refund.. if they dont know if it looted something or if it died how can they know what players were there that deserve a refund?
Just give the statement if it was a bug or a no-looter so ppl can decide if these events are worth paying.
Just give the statement if it was a bug or a no-looter so ppl can decide if these events are worth paying.
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Do you understand what regeneration does to a loot profile? I'll assume no. Search.
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Surely MA have logs of every looting event?
Is it possible for the mob to timeout and disappear? That doesn't sound any better than it not looting to me...
Is it possible for the mob to timeout and disappear? That doesn't sound any better than it not looting to me...
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I wasn't there, but isn't it possible that some people who were there for the wave don't use the forums? I know not everyone does.
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not to be an asshole or anything but stop bashing the levis pls..
I have 132 globals on levis and killed thousands of them.. mostly old-old-alpha.. I have never ever gotten a no loot from a domi.. nor from guardian..
providers do give no looters sometimes.. and guardians started to give novas a year or so back.. but dominants always give loot..
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I don't count millipec as loot
why are you speculating unstead of taking 5 minutes and go check mindark log and see what in fact happens, which u probably know :"the house take it all!!"
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Kim I have on video where we even get the message he has been defeated of this particular incident. I'm telling you your company has been in max greed mode last weeks except for a few loots for a few people. Not sure how aware you really are of the situation. But this video of this particular event I have.
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Knowing how it looked in-game to the players also provides valuable clues, I'm not in the habit of asking irrelevant questions.
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- There definitely was a message saying "The boss mob has been defeated".
- It definitely took less than 10 minutes to kill him
- On time out one would suppose an unlootable carcass and a dot on radar, both didn't happen.
I hope for one of the two following answer from MA asap:
- All systems did work as intended, there were no issues. We are looking into options to make loot distribution for boss mobs fairer.
- Not every system did work as intended, there was at least one issue. We are looking for a solution how to reimburse participants.
The Sand King
...took this snippet out of my chat.log...
Menace is referring to the sand king being stuck when it spawned amongst the trees...
and the chat.log when all started to wait for the swirls...
According to my chat.log The Sand King was killed in approx. 7 min
...took this snippet out of my chat.log...
Menace is referring to the sand king being stuck when it spawned amongst the trees...
and the chat.log when all started to wait for the swirls...
2011-10-30 17:32:00 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Anatomy skill.
2011-10-30 17:32:00 [Local] [] Kyron Kyron Mister found a deposit (Melchi Water) with a value of 77 PED at F.O.M.A Main Arena!
2011-10-30 17:32:00 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your BLP Weaponry Technology skill.
2011-10-30 17:32:01 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Weapons Handling skill.
2011-10-30 17:32:01 [Local] [] Wave event will be available again at 2011-10-30 20:32:11.
2011-10-30 17:32:07 [Local] [Star] lag
2011-10-30 17:32:08 [Local] [PostHistory] no looot !!!!!!!!!!!!!
2011-10-30 17:32:08 [Local] [Mart] ml
2011-10-30 17:32:09 [Local] [Garco] hum
2011-10-30 17:32:09 [Local] [Executioner] lol
2011-10-30 17:32:10 [Local] [PostHistory] wtf !
2011-10-30 17:32:10 [Local] [Poena]
2011-10-30 17:32:11 [Local] [Jim stick Freestone] ...
2011-10-30 17:32:12 [Local] [First Lady] omg
2011-10-30 17:32:13 [Local] [DRDoom] ffs?????
2011-10-30 17:32:13 [Local] [Krown] omg
2011-10-30 17:32:14 [Local] [47] ?
2011-10-30 17:32:14 [Local] [crusher] i told u
2011-10-30 17:32:15 [Local] [Mari Juana] yay we kild it !
2011-10-30 17:32:15 [Local] [Lars] didnt carry any loot!
2011-10-30 17:32:15 [Local] [Vlooe] haha
According to my chat.log The Sand King was killed in approx. 7 min
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A video:
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Only for the person looting it
So I guess then the question would be, did anyone get a no loot message?
Although, it should loot higher than 50 ped no matter what.