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The True Cost of Merry Mayhem.

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EllisJames

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Well after some enlightening calculations on how much PED/Ammo i will need for this event i have desided to drop out. There is no way on Calypso that someone with my skill level could possibly compete without making MA very rich indeed lol.

I worked out that i would be fireing over 50k ammo per hour. Times that by 6 hours a day over a 6 day period that works out to be 1.800.000 rounds of ammo.
Total cost on ammo alone is 18kPED. Add on the decay and your looking at a total cost of 20kPED

This event serves only one purpose. To make the rich people richer and the poor people bancrupt.

There is no way that anyone like me could even have a sniff of winning this event so i came to this conclusion.

The prizes are not prizes, there gift from MA to the people who deposit s*@t loads of money in the game. There the only people who could possibly compete given the pure cost of being in the event.
 
Dont forget that you get loot from event mobs during event time. So your view point is not correct actually. But the true about this event that this is a competition between people, who can organize effective support for themselves and some problems for other competitors. There is not any chance for solo player to win main prizes.
 
I suppose that is one way of looking at it...

Here's my perspective:

A few days of 3x skill gaining is a big boon for anyone, new or old, as skill gaining simply takes longer and longer and longer the higher you skill.

So this event is going to take away some of the pain, by making those slow-moving skills move a little faster.

From day one of the event I've accepted I'll likely not loot a single Exceptional robot part, let alone 21 of them - and I don't care. There are very few bots I can actually hunt - Attackers, spider-bombers and low-generation drones. The rest send me to res in 1-2 shots, so I stay away from them - though I am quite pleased with myself to say that I and another society member were able to take down an Eviscerator (however it's spelled ) Gen 1 - yay us.

And now that the event has passed, congratulation to those who've managed to turn up all 21 Exceptional robot parts - you've likely spent a fortune for them, and endured some serious pounding at the same time.

Now I just wonder when we'll see Triple Loot Week ;-)
 
X1 costing 260% mmm :) :) :) That says it all.
 
EllisJames said:
I worked out that i would be fireing over 50k ammo per hour. Times that by 6 hours a day over a 6 day period that works out to be 1.800.000 rounds of ammo.
Total cost on ammo alone is 18kPED. Add on the decay and your looking at a total cost of 20kPED
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50k ammo per hour? :eek:

What weapon do you use?
 
Well......if your using 38k+ peds to invest in a chance to get an LA which might be worth a coupla hundred k peds (xxxk peds)........might be a high risk venture which would result in being made or broke. :D

If its just armor.....then.........hell....just skip it. :wtg:
 
38k peds is nothing compared to the LA value, not saying that you have some money back in skills and loot. Of course, even you'll put everything in an utmost effort to win, it doesn't garantee you any place in the top10.
 
the true cost you cant see until the Mayhem is over..
Then you can do your numbers, Ammoburn, decay - loot and skillgain = true cost...

no way to know the numbers before the event is over...


S V :)
 
EllisJames said:
Well after some enlightening calculations on how much PED/Ammo i will need for this event i have desided to drop out. There is no way on Calypso that someone with my skill level could possibly compete without making MA very rich indeed lol.

I worked out that i would be fireing over 50k ammo per hour. Times that by 6 hours a day over a 6 day period that works out to be 1.800.000 rounds of ammo.
Total cost on ammo alone is 18kPED. Add on the decay and your looking at a total cost of 20kPED

This event serves only one purpose. To make the rich people richer and the poor people bancrupt.

There is no way that anyone like me could even have a sniff of winning this event so i came to this conclusion.

The prizes are not prizes, there gift from MA to the people who deposit s*@t loads of money in the game. There the only people who could possibly compete given the pure cost of being in the event.
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You need a bit bigger bankroll for an event like this, thats true. But the rest of your post makes no sense to me, you not gonna shoot all your ammo into thin air, ain't you?

For your turnover calculation, thats actually an cut down for an avid hunter. Lot of people go through more then 5k+ Ped turnover daily in hunting. And those are not heavy depositers, actually me too and i haven't deposited last 3 years. For daily 3 to 5k turnover i need about 2k bankroll.

There is an difference of course. Out of an event you can change mob if not happy with loot, you can try to optimize for item drops and you have time at auction to make most markup out of your loot. So thats why you need bigger bankroll. You don't need 20k though, you can have a friend who manage loot sale and stuff.

The risk for severe loses is mostly from not being prepared well. Like in example if you haven't stocked up in L guns in time if you using those and now paying heavy markup. Here you need some bankroll, thats true.

We got some "luck" events lately. But Mayhem is supposed to be an endurance competition. That means good management of playtime, support team and yes, some bankroll.

MA / First Planet has shown massive improvement in events lately. One can clearly see how they adjust to demands from the community here on EF. And the harder they try the more complain threads pop up. :rolleyes:

I personally can't take part because spiders in Nemesis and with H400 / Karma Killer, well you know, just doesn't do it. :)
So either i can't or i don't want to afford it, but i am not gonna complain about it.
Just like i don't stand in front of the local luxury car dealer and complain about high prices. If it is out of my league and i want it, i work my ass off to get there. And the amazing thing in EU is, while being a real cash economy, you can get there with hard work and patience, not so much by luck. You know, it is not Disney Planet here (yet) ;)

Merry Mayhem
 
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Only 20k ped? :laugh: You must be living in some sort of fantasy wonderland :D

True cost is closer to 50k.
 
To Leona

Good post, but looking at your siggie, you cant even survive a 976,4 hp crit, you dont have anything to do in this event :laugh:




S V ;)
 
Yay another pointless whining thread, what would EF be without these :D

~Tracer
 
Silver Viking said:
To Leona

Good post, but looking at your siggie, you cant even survive a 976,4 hp crit, you dont have anything to do in this event :laugh:

S V ;)
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So true. :laugh: Hey, but i am working on it.... :silly2:
 
EllisJames said:
...This event serves only one purpose. To make the rich people richer and the poor people bancrupt.

There is no way that anyone like me could even have a sniff of winning this event so i came to this conclusion.
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Unfortunately, that's the way it goes. If MA comes with an event as such: "we will give away x, y, z prizes which can be looted from mobs ranging from Chirpy to Daspletors, for a week", what do you think will happen? Who will have the most chances to win? A player putting 3 hr/day, hunting with Breer P2a... or someone spending 12 hr/day using Mod Merc?

Also, does it seem fair to you that way? Someone spending $30USD/day should have the same chance as someone spending $300USD/day? Funny thing is that if they do it that way, the top players will complain (justified) as well as people arguing that this is a casino. Even in a pure casino... who has the best chance of winning big? The $40 player using the 5 cent slots or the one spending $5000 on the $25 slot machine?

I'm not advocating for MA often; but until someone can actually come up with with a better idea that will please everybody it's hard to only say "MA sucks".

You say that this event will make poor people bankrupt; I beg to differ. I'm a poor player, and I don't think that this event will get me into bankruptcy. I calculated my odds against my time/funds and I don't think I have a chance, so... I don't participate.
 
I know what you mean I made a post about this very topic in the official news thread.

While you may have to spend about 18k to get a fair shot at winning you've got to realize that you may only have to invest a few K and be able to recycle that amount...

Personally though, I agree with your statement that once again "the rich get richer" in EU, but meh... I've pretty much come to terms with this being the fact of EU... After all, the real way to successfully play EU is not to gamble or hope for a handout from MA, but to create a successful business model that you can follow to earn a significant amount of peds consistently which you can then use to either 1) further your business, 2) withdrawal and spend, 3) Gamble in game by getting a mining amp, hunting massive critters, condition craft 101 amps :silly2:

EU is a business game first and an rpg second and a WoW clone NEVER! lol
 
jjmatrix said:
...and I don't think I have a chance, so... I don't participate.
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All that needs saying :wise:

There are not many that enter competitions when they dont have a realistic chance of winning. I know i dont. So those that are entering this seriously need the support and the financial backup to have a chance of winning. This should be obvious, so no need to be disapointed.

This event is pretty much a mini land grab. You can be sure the winners of LA's will be backed up by their society/friends. All looking to get a share in the profits from the LA. A solo player has next to no chance which is why i dont understand MA/FPC have not made it more obvious its a team event.
 
If you don't think you can afford it, do not take part.

What is hard to understand about that?

I do not think I can afford to run a Formula 1 team and take part in the Grand-Prix, so I do not.

"Oh dear, I do not have £50,000,000 Great British Pounds, how unfair that Ferrari might win, and I stand no chance!" :eek:
 
Welcome to EU.

Im not going to say, "Theres was no way for me to win" (cat2)

I will say, there was no way I was going through the the preparation, planning and resources it was going to take to win.

In 3 days or so I would had spent enough to buy full bear, why gamble.

I can see the top categories actually being fun and strategic. I see the bottom categories as a fools bet. If you win, you have payed for your prize and probably someone else s prize as well as a couple HOF's.

Should had figured what the max kills under perfect conditions could be. Take that number and adjust it down by about 1/2. Figure average cost to do that, multiple the cost by at least x3. Use that number and adjust it for the 1st,2nd and 3rd prizes in each category. Not getting off my ass to win a competition and when the maths all done be handed a bill.
 
well last merry mayhem getting I got 4th place and it costed 11000 ped in LOSS..

Im guessing this event will be the same... I also did some tests..
Anyone in cat 3 and higher should be expecting to lose about 8-10k peds..


So make sure you have atleast that on pedcard to last through the event..

But hey its a landarea or maybe some armor ;)
 
Bad post, don't need to say more.

Again someone whining who's doesn't fully understand the game
 
:rofl: did any of you think that Mayhem is for free? Who is paying for the LA and the different uber armor parts etc etc etc, you think? MA? :laugh:

:)

It's not free - and everyone is paying to the winners ;) But heck, I wouldnt mind getting a LA anyway. Never expected this to cost nothing tbh - which is why I'm not participating this year - but I will next year when I'm more close to uber :D

Good luck and Lootius bless you all!
 
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