Question: What does it cost to play this game and make a living at it?

[eoden13]

There are some people that have and some have gone on to make planets... so what would be the cost of playing this game to be able to live off this game?

I don't think a single profession could do it... probably land management... and from the looks of it. A lot of it!

Just curious...

 

[borgaard]

probably land management , only thing i would say.. or extreme luck in loot..
or redealer..

and the cost.. uhmm.. alot.

 

[Deadgoon]

your soul... oh yeah and land

 

[Hugh Willose]

your soul... oh yeah and land

agree .........

 

[Few Scars]

If you are looking at land areas you will need at least $15k USD to start with, then additional costs for DNA, fertiliser etc, probably a good idea to add a Teleport and a few terminals as well. If you have a good spawn and events I am sure you could make an income, but I doubt you could live off it

 

[DavinFelth]

tp

I thought a teleporter was like 5k or something!!

 

[dotc0m]

today in 2hours with a korss and a103 i lost 200ped hunting atrox young only.

went hunting with 170ped+full amp got 120ped back not counting decay.
went hunting back again now with 100ped ammo and 20ped repair on amp and came back with 60ped not counting decay.
repaired amp for 9 ped and used 51ped ammo, went back with 20ped ammo

repaird my amp for 3 ped and bought 17ped of ammo. i got 3 no loot in a row out of the 4 mob i could possibly kill.

screwed. game over.

so what is cost of the game? 10$/hours hunting atrox young not counting repair on armor/heal/weapon.

If its that for atrox young, what is it for others stuff? for me its been like that since 2006. constantly have 40%-60% return only. So if u consider u can lose money on a Land Area value, but make money with the tax, overall if u get 100% return in this game then u should be happy.

 

[mastermesh]

cost varies greatly avatar to avatar. Living off of the game --- LOL

Closest one to get to living off of the game said he'd never die... but uh, his avatar can't be in game anymore because he signed a contract with the devil and "died" so to speak.

 

[stupey]

Lol

lots of luck with that.It cost too much,(just ask hubby).Love this game but returns are sorely down.So either luck out big or invest heavily.I hope if you buy land that you think about the player pool and not the profit ; so many people get lost.All in all ;this is a game.If I could I would buy LA,but I can't ATM;just remember players only come back if there is something for them to return to.Lying about mobs and resources may make you money temporaily but in the long run you will go down.By all means invest in LA if you can ;just keep it honest.IMO.Best of luck

 

[Slaiine]

today in 2hours with a korss and a103 i lost 200ped hunting atrox young only.

went hunting with 170ped+full amp got 120ped back not counting decay.
went hunting back again now with 100ped ammo and 20ped repair on amp and came back with 60ped not counting decay.
repaired amp for 9 ped and used 51ped ammo, went back with 20ped ammo

repaird my amp for 3 ped and bought 17ped of ammo. i got 3 no loot in a row out of the 4 mob i could possibly kill.

screwed. game over.

so what is cost of the game? 10$/hours hunting atrox young not counting repair on armor/heal/weapon.

If its that for atrox young, what is it for others stuff? for me its been like that since 2006. constantly have 40%-60% return only. So if u consider u can lose money on a Land Area value, but make money with the tax, overall if u get 100% return in this game then u should be happy.

Dude no offense but 200 ped ?? Come on man, you gambled for 2 hours on 20 bucks. Where the hell can you gamble elsewhere for 2 hours on 20 bucks ? Come on, it's gambling. I don't know what you expect. Gambling = you win some, you lose some but in the long run you lose. The law of diminishing returns is constant in any gambling environment. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah, you're addicted. And the proof ? You been doing it since 2006.

 

[TACUTTING]

And still someone withdraws 45K $ / year , as the latest rumour i read somewhere here .

If its true , u know where your peds go and its not to a sweater, because they drain the game . LOL

 

[Nobleone]

Those that know probably are not gonna tell ya and rumours of US$45K per annum withdrawals are just that ... Rumours

 

[dotc0m]

Dude no offense but 200 ped ?? Come on man, you gambled for 2 hours on 20 bucks. Where the hell can you gamble elsewhere for 2 hours on 20 bucks ? Come on, it's gambling. I don't know what you expect. Gambling = you win some, you lose some but in the long run you lose. The law of diminishing returns is constant in any gambling environment. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah, you're addicted. And the proof ? You been doing it since 2006.

As a response to your lies, i can respond that :

1. the problem here in my exemple is that this game is not even gambling, the odd are rigged anyway, worst than in a casino.

2. Im just saying i killed atrox youngs for 200ped budget, and explained it wasnt only 200ped, it was a cycle of those 200ped which yielded more ped cycled...

3. Show ppl how easy it is to lose 20$ in 2hours without a real casino odd of "gambling" to get more...

4. Explained by a exemple that hunting is not viable and LA management is.

5. Respected topic. you didnt.

6. I dont deposit since 2005, so i wouldnt say im a gambler.

7. boo to you for your childish response.

 

[Piotr]

As a response to your lies, i can respond that :

1. the problem here in my exemple is that this game is not even gambling, the odd are rigged anyway, worst than in a casino.

2. Im just saying i killed atrox youngs for 200ped budget, and explained it wasnt only 200ped, it was a cycle of those 200ped which yielded more ped cycled...

3. Show ppl how easy it is to lose 20$ in 2hours without a real casino odd of "gambling" to get more...

4. Explained by a exemple that hunting is not viable and LA management is.

5. Respected topic. you didnt.

6. I dont deposit since 2005, so i wouldnt say im a gambler.

7. boo to you for your childish response.

kors on troxies and u r not a gambler? lolled
I've made some experiment myself with p5a+104 bck when istarted trox quest, kinda same as kors and it costed 5++ peds per trox, with apis+dante its 4.2-4.4
Look at ur setup first then curse the game.... not the other way around

 

[Art Jennifer]

Owning Land is one of the only ways.

Say you own 5 LA, all of which making 100ped per day

thats 500ped per day, times 500ped by 365, 182,500ped a year. So $18k per year.

Then you pay $20k for a full working LA. (Not sure if that price is right, but it is an exampe)

so $100k for 5 la, and i think in around 5.5 years you will be making a profit.

The 100ped per day is just a estimate, I guess it could be anywhere from 50-5000ped depending on how active or if somone ATH. So i would say 18k per year is the bottom. at the top i would say, around 35k - 50k a year, depending on which LA it is/ if it is an active badboy.

That is ofcourse, if you do not play the game, such as hunting/mining/crafting. If you owned 5 LA's and traded i guess you could make a bit more. Or maybe if you have 600k skills and all uber gear, you could make small profits from a profession. But that will cost more again to set up.

Again, this is just off the top of my head so could be wrong

 

[Davies Davies]

It is just a myth that you can make a living at this game. We need Mythbusters to bust this myth....


Urban legend about big money to attract players.

Actualy you can count with 1 middle finger who is the only making a living at it -> MA


Others than that You wont even be able to sustain the poorest villager in africa with this game.

 

[Hijacker27]

Yeah I'd say dumping at least 500K PED into the game to 'invest' with is the minimum amount required to be able to pull back enough money per year to live off of. However this would still be below the poverty line in most countries.

 

[Art Jennifer]

Yeah, if your serious about this game, then Investing is to such a bad idea. In a few years time you would of made your investment back ( all going to plan )

And if you have a job aswell. The really it is a bit of win win. As your land would mean you will never have to deposit again.

 

[GandalfSzary]

Owning Land is one of the only ways.

Say you own 5 LA, all of which making 100ped per day

thats 500ped per day, times 500ped by 365, 182,500ped a year. So $18k per year.

Then you pay $20k for a full working LA. (Not sure if that price is right, but it is an exampe)

so $100k for 5 la, and i think in around 5.5 years you will be making a profit.

Those numbers could be somehow right however then once in a while MA jumps in and double number of Land Areas or release the unique DNA's which you bought for fortune, and then those numbers mean a shit anymore.

 

[AtamiKiangola]

The nice time about EU is that it will cost you what you decide it should cost.
The hard part is to restrain yourself to keep the costs within your own limits.

 

[Mikeemooo]

The price of LAs themselves has increased a lot over time, though - I doubt they are increasing that much any more.

It'd be interesting to know how much the value has gone up regardless of any hunting taxes.

 

[skunkjunk]

kors on troxies and u r not a gambler? lolled
I've made some experiment myself with p5a+104 bck when istarted trox quest, kinda same as kors and it costed 5++ peds per trox, with apis+dante its 4.2-4.4
Look at ur setup first then curse the game.... not the other way around

what he said and i like to ad

h400 is not a trox gun.. 103 on h400 dude at least get a 104 or better (stil wont be a trox gun)

h400 with desent amp is nice for low hp low regen mobs.

 

[Futurama]

cost varies greatly avatar to avatar. Living off of the game --- LOL

Closest one to get to living off of the game said he'd never die... but uh, his avatar can't be in game anymore because he signed a contract with the devil and "died" so to speak.

I bet some Rumanian players will disagree with this...


Ofc it depends on where you live - USA, UK, Norway etc. You will always be better of with a RL job (no matter how shitty it is or that you get minimal wage). I don`t know the numbers atm, but the picture is a lot different in Eastern Europe, western parts of Asia maybe South America, North Africa, middle-east etc.

 

[mastermesh]

I bet some Rumanian players will disagree with this...


Ofc it depends on where you live - USA, UK, Norway etc. You will always be better of with a RL job (no matter how shitty it is or that you get minimal wage). I don`t know the numbers atm, but the picture is a lot different in Eastern Europe, western parts of Asia maybe South America, North Africa, middle-east etc.

or good ol China, lol...
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_...5&sid=13861345&con_type=1&d_str=20070601&fc=8

CRD chief executive David Liu predicted that the virtual worlds will generate approximately 10,000 jobs in the mainland.

"An important aspect for this project is also the positive effects on our environment that we foresee," Liu said. "People will actually be able to work from home inside Entropia Universe, as many people do today, even from rural areas, thereby decreasing the amount of pollution generated by travel."

(there's a reason CRD never happened )

 

[Futurama]

You think bait just grind scips all the time because he really enjoys it a lot?

 

[Mel]

As a response to your lies, i can respond that :

1. the problem here in my exemple is that this game is not even gambling, the odd are rigged anyway, worst than in a casino.

2. Im just saying i killed atrox youngs for 200ped budget, and explained it wasnt only 200ped, it was a cycle of those 200ped which yielded more ped cycled...

3. Show ppl how easy it is to lose 20$ in 2hours without a real casino odd of "gambling" to get more...

4. Explained by a exemple that hunting is not viable and LA management is.

5. Respected topic. you didnt.

6. I dont deposit since 2005, so i wouldnt say im a gambler.

7. boo to you for your childish response.

Well, think you have to take a couple steps back here. First, if you have not depo'd since 2005 0r 6....don't think many want to hear any bitching. If that's not true....still don't think many want to hear any bitching. Have been many changes and mistakes, gawwwwd the mistakes.... I could hear Marco's palm hit his forehead from here.

But seriously....and please think about this.... this is now and always was becoming, many games. Even PE, 5 years ago, there's a difference on the virtual colonist frontier between surviving and prospering, and like what I know of real frontier, very similar. Most people, new arrivals for sure, honestly think they are competing with av's like Star, stryker, etc, from the beginning not understanding the economy and activity for even just hunting on calypso. They don't realize that they really are competing with avatars like myself, rofl,,,, boobers->baby ubers. Or freakin smart guys under the radar like M and D.

Game development staggers, lack of sincere or true information after obvious blunders, throw in a global economy that alone made what MA had planned, and committed to financially, really difficult.

After all that preface, what you are really asking..."How much ped do I have to deposit, to be guaranteed, to be able to take large amounts of ped from other depositing players?" Is that not what the question really is? And my answer for you....lol.

 

[Quint]

Making a living from EU is hard when you live in let's say western europe or in the US. But when you live in a country with relatively low average wages, you can make a living in this game, errr, universe. Making 50 peds an hour (so 5 USD per hour) is definately possible, which is more than the average wage in some countries is. Just chase markup and/or become a reseller, it's as easy as that.

 

[redshoot]

i have the answer to this thread , what most comments say , trolls dont post here or flame my post other wise you are just being lame

now i see a lot of inflation in this game right now example a valkry car at say 315% market not realy data this is just an example data and i see one on auction at 500% and over so the case is players are not going to stand it any more because of greedy self centred players who dont care about any one else but them self

its not just the cars its other items aswell greedy players are making it harder for us low pay average joy guys / gals to play

and if you fail to see this then ( you need a wake up call figure that phrase out )

i hope this game well MA steps in and fixes all the things what greedy players have done


if tax was more low on your lands to the la owners then more players will come and hunt thay will not feel cheated i would not liek my peds goign to some one who owns a land the peds are better of in my pocket not his hell i cant even afford a car or food , for that matter

its not just ingame too its real life goverments are not making jobs , we have disasters , corrupt pollitics , you name it

i quit the game a 3 months ago becuse i cant afford to play anymore


well this is a long post feel free to neg rep or flame me but you are no better than the PTB if you do

 

[RobBuona]

It costs what you want it to cost. But don't expect to make a living from it. In fact, don't even expect to make money from it. The sooner you lose that expectation, the better.

 

[RobBuona]

now i see a lot of inflation in this game right now example a valkry car at say 315% market not realy data this is just an example data and i see one on auction at 500% and over so the case is players are not going to stand it any more because of greedy self centred players who dont care about any one else but them self

Price is an agreement between buyer and seller. If you don't like the price someone is asking, don't buy from them. Either buy it from someone else or wait for them to set a reasonable price. Pretty simple really. If you think a price for an item is too high, chances are you aren't the only one.

No one is "forcing" you to overpay.