enjoying the red beam
sad to hear
clarification or changing on this kind of basic system should be prioritized as much as space improvement.
i may have laser sight solely just for fun then...thx for the reply !
And very expensive utility that does nothing.
are you real sure ??...my lovely starkhov has got one now its so cool
i think im living for this , gotta try it with my cat x5 this weekend !
This needs clarification once and for all.
And if normal scopes/lasers (w/o focus blow, crit dmg) have no use today when most people are using maxed weapons...then perhaps its time to "reinvent" them!
but....but.... this could help the crafting and mining economy... and thats not a thing MA wants... obviously...
Sure!
Also..looking at the text on the lasers
Arkadia: Points to increased ability to hit the target, however there has been no conclusive proof that this is at all true..at least not on maxed weapons.
Calypso: Improves the shooters aim...wtf does this even mean?! does it help me move the mouse better? or hit the next target button faster?
Why do people keep thinking that MA (or other players) should serve everything on a silverplate?
Because we are the customer?
If you go to a restaurant you'd expect to know what's on your burger and how it's cooked. Especially if you ask.
I can't find it so quick, but MA did somewhere in time gave a little more information about those.
Not that it realy was needed IMO.
To me personaly it's clear what they do.
But ofc the benefits are so minor that it's up to everyone if they think it's worth using them.
And about the proof if they work or do anything, how about people do some testing themselves.
Why do people keep thinking that MA (or other players) should serve everything on a silverplate?
If its clear to you what they do then please share
And that is exactly what I will not do, because 50% of playerbase would agree, and other 50% will disagree.
So what would be the point to try to convince people anyway?
And info that is relevant today, does not have to be relevant tomorrow.
So you would need to adapt anyway again and again.
Here it is:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...s-and-laser-sights-really-do&highlight=lasers
If its clear to you what they do then please share
Edit:
This is clear to me:
- You can zoom with a scope.
- Lasers put a red/green dot on the target under the right conditions.
- Both scope and laser give what these days a minimal skill bonus.
such attachments affect your ability to aim, as explained in the Items Info. "
Bold part means absolutely nothing in this context
Ok we all have theory's and personal idea of how things work that cant be proven...
Because we are the customer?
If you go to a restaurant you'd expect to know what's on your burger and how it's cooked. Especially if you ask.
Just realized its the very same thread we are commenting in
"Apart from the advantageous visual information that you receive when using scopes and laser sights, such attachments affect your ability to aim, as explained in the Items Info. "
Bold part means absolutely nothing in this context
And somthings can be proven, just need to do testing, and the ones that have tried to prove, well if as you will know there are always people that still don't agree.
Try going to McDonald's and ask them the ingredients of that Big Mac sauce. Spoiler : they won't reveal it. Yet you can ask them to give you a rough idea of what it tastes like.
It means exactly what it says. It improves your ability to aim.
Shoot a target. You have four results possible :
- hit
- critical hit
- miss
- evade (dodge)
Hit, Critical hit and Miss all depends on you and your skills. Using optics on an unmaxxed weapon -which is the ones you can miss with- will reduce your misses, in other words, improve your ability to aim.
It will not reduce the target's evade, as it isn't a problem with your aim, it is your target's answer to your (correctly aimed) shot.
Your writing like this is the first time someone has raised the question
Nah well that was not my intention.
It's just that the item info, and info that MA provided is more then enough to figure it out.
Perhaps vaguely does for not maxed weapons...
You even have a slight advantage on maxed weapons.
But as said, everyone has to think for themselfs if it's worth the extra decay.
Because these days there are way better alternatives.
the stats guy i know did extensive tests on this and his conclusion was: absolutely no! effect on maxed weapons. no higher hit rate, no higher skill gain. nothing.
Attachment Parameter Changes
-Skill Bonus on Attachments . The skill modification effect now have a clarifying tool tip. The attachment gives a bonus to the user's hit ability and it has full effect when the target is on maximum weapon range. When the target comes closer the effect decreases and it reaches its minimum effect when the target is in the immediate vicinity. Since the effect is variable the hit ability parameter display is not affected by the skill modification.
-New Parameter on Attachments . A new parameter has been introduced on laser sights and scopes. This new parameter gives the user a skill increase bonus when the attachment is attached to the tool. The skill increase bonus of the attachment will affect the skill that the tool affect. The number does not indicate an actual increase rate percentage but a higher number is better than a lower.
Source : https://account.entropiauniverse.com/news/pages/2010/06/21/7847/index.xml
There it is, should be enough info.
TY
the problem is just that it is not true. every single test made shows this. and its not the only time that MA just outright lies about features or uses false information. for example the "success rate" of 95% on crafting mashines on maxed sib bps. i know, that they cound near success in as a success to get their numbers up, but when i try to craft an item. and i dont have said item after that attempt, but instead have some broken shit that i might be able to reuse, that is not a (!!) success.
just imagine a factory worker that has to assemble stuff, but he just manages to assemble 30% correctly and 70% is just plain wrong and he needs to reuse the parts to assemble again... how will he explain that despite only having 30% of the items ready, he has a 100% "success rate"....
And I would also not believe the restaurant on his word always