Regeneration speed analysis

wizzszz said:

Hijacker, you sound a bit mad, was it you who entered values into entropedia?

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Some of the values probably were, but you can see who added the information by checking the history tab.. I'm definitely not mad though.

wizzszz said:

My point was that regeneration starts before you have inflicted the "base HP" (960 in the example).

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Oh, I thought you meant the regeneration tick timer started when you shot the mob, instead of it being a background process on the server

wizzszz said:

Yeah, people always look for nice numbers, but this doesn't have to be the case here - computers (and coders) are more likely to use i.e. 128 seconds (because that's simply a bitwise AND over the last bits, instead of a costly "divide by 100" operation).

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This is true, but if you test over and over on those mobs with '100' second regen timers, you'll see that they're pretty damn close. Whomever readjusted the mobs liked round numbers.

wizzszz said:

This is all guesswork, and while the results are somewhat useable, the error margin is way bigger than with my method (and it suffers from the "off/on ticks" problem as well, no idea why you ran down my test method when yours didn't deal with this either...)

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I never said my method was perfect, it's just the method I use.

wizzszz said:

Regeneration is calculated server side (that's why it stops when you lose connection) - the only reason to do this client side, too, would be a smoother experience (and re-sync'ed whenever the server gives you an update), but MAs coders are obviously not aware of this method.

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Lol I know that everything is done server side, but the server DOES send the client new information so that we can see what their current health is. If the server sends an update every 10 seconds to raise the viewed health by 5%.. I think it's pretty obvious what the regeneration rate is.

maybe some wrong calculation with guardian..............

Dr.D.C. said:

maybe some wrong calculation with guardian..............

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Did you at least keep track of the damage of the kill shot so we could find out the error for that variable?

Dr.D.C. said:

maybe some wrong calculation with guardian..............

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The time is calculated from first hit?

And what gun did you use? An average damage of 35 per second is maybe a bit too high for this.

And what Hijacker said: Can you post the log entries please, at least for the guardian?

wizzszz said:

The time is calculated from first hit?

And what gun did you use? An average damage of 35 per second is maybe a bit too high for this.

And what Hijacker said: Can you post the log entries please, at least for the guardian?

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i used an 2875 and yes i calculated from the first shot until the last one that killed the mob

here the logs
mature
2011-08-03 23:26:19 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:21 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:24 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:25 [Local] [] You inflicted 30.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:26 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:29 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:30 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:31 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:32 [Local] [] You inflicted 38.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:34 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:36 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:38 [Local] [] You inflicted 34.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:38 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:40 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:40 [Local] [] You inflicted 22.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:45 [Local] [] Critical hit - additional damage! You inflict 107.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:46 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:47 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.6 points of damage.
mature
2011-08-03 23:22:26 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:30 [Local] [] You inflicted 31.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:30 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:32 [Local] [] You inflicted 34.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:33 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:34 [Local] [] You inflicted 29.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:35 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:36 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:37 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:38 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:39 [Local] [] You inflicted 30.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:40 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:41 [Local] [] You inflicted 54.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:42 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:44 [Local] [] You inflicted 34.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:45 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:46 [Local] [] You inflicted 39.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:47 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:48 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:49 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.7 points of damage.
old
2011-08-03 23:24:58 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:02 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:03 [Local] [] Critical hit - additional damage! You inflict 99.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:04 [Local] [] You inflicted 31.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:05 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:07 [Local] [] You inflicted 32.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:08 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:09 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:10 [Local] [] You inflicted 43.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:11 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:12 [Local] [] You inflicted 31.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:13 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:14 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:15 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:16 [Local] [] You inflicted 34.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:17 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:18 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:19 [Local] [] You inflicted 38.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:21 [Local] [] You inflicted 30.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:22 [Local] [] You inflicted 39.2 points of damage.
old
2011-08-03 23:21:21 [Local] [] You inflicted 34.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:24 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:24 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:27 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:28 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:29 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:30 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:31 [Local] [] You inflicted 55.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:32 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:33 [Local] [] You inflicted 49.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:34 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:35 [Local] [] You inflicted 24.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:36 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:37 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:39 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:40 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:41 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:42 [Local] [] You inflicted 49.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:43 [Local] [] You inflicted 32.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:44 [Local] [] You inflicted 23.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:49 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:51 [Local] [] You inflicted 34.8 points of damage.
young
2011-08-03 23:18:53 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:00 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:02 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:03 [Local] [] You inflicted 55.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:04 [Local] [] You inflicted 55.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:05 [Local] [] You inflicted 52.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:06 [Local] [] You inflicted 24.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:08 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:10 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:11 [Local] [] You inflicted 35.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:13 [Local] [] You inflicted 31.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:14 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:15 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:16 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.5 points of damage.
young
2011-08-03 23:09:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:09:51 [Local] [] You inflicted 22.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:09:55 [Local] [] You inflicted 25.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:09:59 [Local] [] You inflicted 49.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:02 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:03 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:04 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:05 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:06 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:08 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:09 [Local] [] You inflicted 39.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:10 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:11 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:12 [Local] [] You inflicted 25.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:13 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:14 [Local] [] You inflicted 30.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:16 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:17 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.6 points of damage.
guardian
2011-08-03 23:13:51 [Local] [] You inflicted 23.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:53 [Local] [] You inflicted 23.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:56 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:57 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:58 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:59 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:02 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:03 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:04 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:05 [Local] [] You inflicted 52.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:06 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:07 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:10 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:11 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:13 [Local] [] You inflicted 22.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:15 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:16 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:17 [Local] [] You inflicted 43.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:18 [Local] [] You inflicted 35.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:19 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:20 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:21 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:22 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:23 [Local] [] You inflicted 32.2 points of damage.
dominant
2011-08-03 23:17:31 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:34 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:35 [Local] [] You inflicted 29.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:37 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:39 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:40 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:41 [Local] [] You inflicted 54.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:42 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:44 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:45 [Local] [] You inflicted 25.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:46 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:47 [Local] [] You inflicted 55.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:48 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:49 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 40.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:51 [Local] [] You inflicted 22.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:52 [Local] [] Critical hit - additional damage! You inflict 109.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:53 [Local] [] You inflicted 40.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:54 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:55 [Local] [] You inflicted 29.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:56 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:57 [Local] [] You inflicted 24.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:58 [Local] [] You inflicted 40.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:59 [Local] [] You inflicted 25.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:18:00 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:18:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:18:02 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:18:03 [Local] [] You inflicted 32.0 points of damage.
dominant
2011-08-03 23:23:39 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:41 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:42 [Local] [] You inflicted 23.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:44 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:45 [Local] [] You inflicted 30.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:46 [Local] [] You inflicted 38.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:47 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:48 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 40.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:51 [Local] [] You inflicted 22.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:52 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:53 [Local] [] You inflicted 55.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:55 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:56 [Local] [] You inflicted 38.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:57 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:58 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:59 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:00 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:02 [Local] [] Critical hit - additional damage! You inflict 101.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:03 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:04 [Local] [] You inflicted 29.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:05 [Local] [] You inflicted 54.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:06 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:07 [Local] [] You inflicted 35.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:08 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:09 [Local] [] You inflicted 39.1 points of damage.
alpha
2011-08-03 23:29:17 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:20 [Local] [] You inflicted 24.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:22 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:23 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:24 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:25 [Local] [] You inflicted 32.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:26 [Local] [] You inflicted 25.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:27 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:29 [Local] [] You inflicted 43.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:30 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:30 [Local] [] You inflicted 35.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:31 [Local] [] You inflicted 49.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:33 [Local] [] You inflicted 25.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:35 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:36 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:37 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:38 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:39 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:41 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:43 [Local] [] You inflicted 40.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:44 [Local] [] You inflicted 23.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:45 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:46 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:47 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:48 [Local] [] You inflicted 39.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:49 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 54.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:51 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:52 [Local] [] You inflicted 40.3 points of damage.

a clean version. You welcome

The data for guardian look correct so far, but the results are really strange.

Are you maybe on a sat connection to the internet?
It is possible that this "swallows" some of the damage messages, at least for global messages i know for sure that this can happen when your internet connection is unstable.
(MMOs use UDP for real time data transfer, UDP is not reliable like TCP)

Counting the shots and making sure there is a MISS or a You inflicted XX.X points of damage message for every single shot may fix this, i think the health is tracked server side, so missed "adjust health to XY" datagrams should be no problem.



Then, the problem with the timestamps is that they are not server side, but generated client side - if your computer lags the timestamps can be way off.

And we don't know what exactly happens when the server lags, the only way to check for server lag is making sure that there are constantly global messages during the test timeframe.


Or maybe we just found a bug - MA might have entered the wrong regeneration value for this mob...
(It might be possible that MA did this on purpose though, i.e. argo scouts have less HP than young & adult, for whatever reason)




However, it seems we get reliable results only from repeating the test several times, preferably with different weapons.

i have a cable connection, 16162kbps download 1891kbps upload tested with http://www.america.new-speedtest.com/
I know it sucks but that i have.
About the logs, enjoy them
dominant
2011-08-03 23:17:31 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:32 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:17:33
2011-08-03 23:17:32 [Local] [] Session time: 00:09:57
2011-08-03 23:17:34 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:35 [Local] [] You take 6.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:35 [Local] [] You inflicted 29.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:36 [Local] [] STRIAX STRIAX SX killed a creature (Atrox Mature) with a value of 62 PED!
2011-08-03 23:17:37 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:37 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:17:39 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:40 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:41 [Local] [] You inflicted 54.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:42 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:43 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:17:44 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:45 [Local] [] You inflicted 25.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:46 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:47 [Local] [] You inflicted 55.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:47 [Local] [] You take 17.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:48 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:48 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Combat Sense skill.
2011-08-03 23:17:49 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 40.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:51 [Local] [] You inflicted 22.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:51 [Local] [] You take 7.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:52 [Local] [] Pete Agothx Olson killed a creature (Argonaut Young) with a value of 121 PED!
2011-08-03 23:17:52 [Local] [] Critical hit - additional damage! You inflict 109.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:53 [Local] [] You inflicted 40.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:54 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:54 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Laser Weaponry Technology skill.
2011-08-03 23:17:55 [Local] [] You inflicted 29.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:56 [Local] [] You take 19.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:56 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:57 [Local] [] You inflicted 24.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:58 [Local] [] You inflicted 40.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:17:59 [Local] [] You inflicted 25.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:18:00 [Local] [] You take 4.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:18:00 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:18:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:18:02 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:18:03 [Local] [] You inflicted 32.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:18:04 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:18:04
2011-08-03 23:18:04 [Local] [] Session time: 00:10:28
dominant
2011-08-03 23:23:37 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:23:37
2011-08-03 23:23:37 [Local] [] Session time: 00:16:02
2011-08-03 23:23:39 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:41 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:41 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Handgun skill.
2011-08-03 23:23:42 [Local] [] You inflicted 23.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:43 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:23:44 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:45 [Local] [] You inflicted 30.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:45 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Laser Weaponry Technology skill.
2011-08-03 23:23:46 [Local] [] You inflicted 38.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:47 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:48 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:48 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Handgun skill.
2011-08-03 23:23:49 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:23:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 40.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:51 [Local] [] You inflicted 22.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:52 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:53 [Local] [] You inflicted 55.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:53 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Laser Weaponry Technology skill.
2011-08-03 23:23:54 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:23:55 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:56 [Local] [] You inflicted 38.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:57 [Local] [] You take 17.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:57 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:58 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:23:59 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:00 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:02 [Local] [] Critical hit - additional damage! You inflict 101.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:02 [Local] [] Your Agility has improved.
2011-08-03 23:24:03 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:03 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Handgun skill.
2011-08-03 23:24:04 [Local] [] You inflicted 29.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:05 [Local] [] You take 4.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:05 [Local] [] You inflicted 54.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:06 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:07 [Local] [] You inflicted 35.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:07 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Ranged Damage Assessment skill.
2011-08-03 23:24:08 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:09 [Local] [] You inflicted 39.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:10 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:24:10
2011-08-03 23:24:10 [Local] [] Session time: 00:16:34
old
2011-08-03 23:21:21 [Local] [] You inflicted 34.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:22 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:21:22
2011-08-03 23:21:22 [Local] [] Session time: 00:13:46
2011-08-03 23:21:24 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:24 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:26 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:21:27 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:28 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:29 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:29 [Local] [] Team "~ cK Coat Killers ~" killed a creature (Osseocollum Young) with a value of 104 PED!
2011-08-03 23:21:30 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:31 [Local] [] You inflicted 55.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:32 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:33 [Local] [] You inflicted 49.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:33 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Handgun skill.
2011-08-03 23:21:33 [Local] [] You have gained Coolness.
2011-08-03 23:21:34 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:35 [Local] [] You inflicted 24.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:36 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:37 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:38 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:21:39 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:40 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:41 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:41 [Local] [] You take 3.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:42 [Local] [] You inflicted 49.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:43 [Local] [] You inflicted 32.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:43 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Handgun skill.
2011-08-03 23:21:44 [Local] [] You inflicted 23.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:45 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:21:46 [Local] [] You take 1.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:46 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:21:47 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:21:48 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:21:49 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:50 [Local] [] You take 6.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:51 [Local] [] You inflicted 34.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:21:51 [Local] [] Your Agility has improved.
2011-08-03 23:21:51 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Handgun skill.
2011-08-03 23:21:52 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:21:53
2011-08-03 23:21:53 [Local] [] Session time: 00:14:17
old
2011-08-03 23:24:56 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:24:57
2011-08-03 23:24:56 [Local] [] Session time: 00:17:21
2011-08-03 23:24:58 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:24:59 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:25:00 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:25:01 [Local] [] Miguel Garco Gracio manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 73 PED!
2011-08-03 23:25:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:01 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Anatomy skill.
2011-08-03 23:25:02 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:03 [Local] [] Critical hit - additional damage! You inflict 99.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:04 [Local] [] You inflicted 31.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:05 [Local] [] Cerb Hulk Beris killed a creature (Sumima Provider) with a value of 66 PED!
2011-08-03 23:25:05 [Local] [] Miguel Garco Gracio manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 79 PED!
2011-08-03 23:25:05 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:06 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:25:07 [Local] [] You inflicted 32.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:08 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:09 [Local] [] You take 1.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:09 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:09 [Local] [] You have gained Courage.
2011-08-03 23:25:10 [Local] [] You inflicted 43.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:11 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:11 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Handgun skill.
2011-08-03 23:25:12 [Local] [] You inflicted 31.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:13 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:13 [Local] [] Mocka SavioR Rimo manufactured an item (Dacascos Precision Scope) worth 1060 PED! A record has been added to the Hall of Fame.
2011-08-03 23:25:14 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:15 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:16 [Local] [] You inflicted 34.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:17 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:18 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:19 [Local] [] You inflicted 38.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:20 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:25:21 [Local] [] You inflicted 30.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:21 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Laser Weaponry Technology skill.
2011-08-03 23:25:22 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Weapons Handling skill.
2011-08-03 23:25:22 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Handgun skill.
2011-08-03 23:25:22 [Local] [] You inflicted 39.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:25:23 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:25:23
2011-08-03 23:25:23 [Local] [] Session time: 00:17:47
young
2011-08-03 23:09:48 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:09:48
2011-08-03 23:09:48 [Local] [] Session time: 00:02:12
2011-08-03 23:09:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:09:51 [Local] [] You inflicted 22.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:09:55 [Local] [] You take 1.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:09:55 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Evade skill.
2011-08-03 23:09:55 [Local] [] You inflicted 25.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:09:57 [Local] [] You take 1.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:09:57 [Local] [] You have gained Alertness.
2011-08-03 23:09:59 [Local] [] You inflicted 49.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:02 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:03 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:04 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:05 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:05 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Laser Weaponry Technology skill.
2011-08-03 23:10:05 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Anatomy skill.
2011-08-03 23:10:06 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:07 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:10:08 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:09 [Local] [] You inflicted 39.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:09 [Local] [] You take 1.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:10 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:11 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:12 [Local] [] You inflicted 25.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:13 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:14 [Local] [] You inflicted 30.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:15 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:10:16 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:17 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:10:18 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:10:18
2011-08-03 23:10:18 [Local] [] Session time: 00:02:42
young
2011-08-03 23:18:53 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:18:54 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:18:54
2011-08-03 23:18:54 [Local] [] Session time: 00:11:18
2011-08-03 23:18:56 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:18:57 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:19:00 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:01 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Wounding skill.
2011-08-03 23:19:02 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:03 [Local] [] You inflicted 55.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:04 [Local] [] You inflicted 55.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:05 [Local] [] You inflicted 52.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:06 [Local] [] You inflicted 24.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:07 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:19:08 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:08 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Ranged Damage Assessment skill.
2011-08-03 23:19:09 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:19:10 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:11 [Local] [] You inflicted 35.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:12 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:19:13 [Local] [] You inflicted 31.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:14 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:15 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:16 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:19:17 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:19:17
2011-08-03 23:19:17 [Local] [] Session time: 00:11:41
mature
2011-08-03 23:26:18 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:26:18
2011-08-03 23:26:18 [Local] [] Session time: 00:18:42
2011-08-03 23:26:19 [Local] [] Eve Damsel Online found a deposit (Cumbriz Stone) with a value of 64 PED!
2011-08-03 23:26:19 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:20 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:26:21 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:22 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:26:23 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:26:24 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:25 [Local] [] You inflicted 30.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:25 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Handgun skill.
2011-08-03 23:26:26 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:27 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:26:28 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:26:29 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:30 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:31 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:32 [Local] [] You inflicted 38.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:34 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:26:34 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:35 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:26:36 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:38 [Local] [] You inflicted 34.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:38 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:40 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:40 [Local] [] You take 4.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:40 [Local] [] You inflicted 22.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:41 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:26:43 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:26:43 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:26:45 [Local] [] Critical hit - additional damage! You inflict 107.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:46 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:46 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Laser Weaponry Technology skill.
2011-08-03 23:26:47 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:48 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:26:48
2011-08-03 23:26:48 [Local] [] Session time: 00:19:12
mature
2011-08-03 23:22:26 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:27 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:22:28
2011-08-03 23:22:27 [Local] [] Session time: 00:14:52
2011-08-03 23:22:28 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:22:26
2011-08-03 23:22:28 [Local] [] Session time: 00:14:53
2011-08-03 23:22:30 [Local] [] You inflicted 31.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:30 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:32 [Local] [] You inflicted 34.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:33 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:33 [Local] [] You have gained Coolness.
2011-08-03 23:22:34 [Local] [] You inflicted 29.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:35 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:36 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:37 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:38 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:39 [Local] [] You take 1.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:39 [Local] [] You inflicted 30.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:40 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:40 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Ranged Damage Assessment skill.
2011-08-03 23:22:41 [Local] [] You inflicted 54.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:42 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:43 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:22:44 [Local] [] You inflicted 34.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:44 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Laser Weaponry Technology skill.
2011-08-03 23:22:45 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:46 [Local] [] You inflicted 39.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:47 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:47 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Handgun skill.
2011-08-03 23:22:48 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:48 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Marksmanship skill.
2011-08-03 23:22:49 [Local] [] You have gained Coolness.
2011-08-03 23:22:49 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:22:50 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:22:50
2011-08-03 23:22:50 [Local] [] Session time: 00:15:14
guardian
2011-08-03 23:13:48 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:13:49
2011-08-03 23:13:48 [Local] [] Session time: 00:06:13
2011-08-03 23:13:49 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 52.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:51 [Local] [] You inflicted 23.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:53 [Local] [] You inflicted 23.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:54 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:13:54 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:13:56 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:57 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:58 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:58 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Weapons Handling skill.
2011-08-03 23:13:59 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:59 [Local] [] Lucifer dandy Leon has left the Entropia Universe.
2011-08-03 23:14:00 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:14:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:02 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:03 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:04 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:04 [Local] [] You have gained Courage.
2011-08-03 23:14:05 [Local] [] You inflicted 52.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:06 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:07 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:08 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:14:08 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Evade skill.
2011-08-03 23:14:09 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:14:10 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:11 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:12 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:14:13 [Local] [] You inflicted 22.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:14 [Local] [] You take 13.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:14 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:14:15 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:16 [Local] [] Yoshi Messenger Sensei manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier Light (L)) worth 62 PED!
2011-08-03 23:14:16 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:17 [Local] [] You inflicted 43.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:18 [Local] [] You inflicted 35.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:18 [Local] [] You have gained Serendipity.
2011-08-03 23:14:19 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:20 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:21 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:22 [Local] [] You take 12.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:22 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:23 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Laser Weaponry Technology skill.
2011-08-03 23:14:23 [Local] [] You inflicted 32.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:24 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:14:24
2011-08-03 23:14:24 [Local] [] Session time: 00:06:48
alpha
2011-08-03 23:29:12 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:29:12
2011-08-03 23:29:12 [Local] [] Session time: 00:21:37
2011-08-03 23:29:14 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:15 [Local] [] You inflicted 25.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:16 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:17 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:18 [Local] [] Team "Fort & Cleetus" killed a creature (Aurli Hunter) with a value of 282 PED! A record has been added to the Hall of Fame.
2011-08-03 23:29:18 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:29:19 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:29:20 [Local] [] You inflicted 24.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:20 [Local] [] Bill Billyboy Carson manufactured an item (Zombie Arm Guards (M,L)) worth 849 PED! A record has been added to the Hall of Fame.
2011-08-03 23:29:21 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:29:22 [Local] [] Team "TKoC Feffteam" killed a creature (Atrox Young) with a value of 61 PED!
2011-08-03 23:29:22 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:23 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:24 [Local] [] You take 10.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:24 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Combat Reflexes skill.
2011-08-03 23:29:24 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:25 [Local] [] You inflicted 32.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:26 [Local] [] You inflicted 25.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:27 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:29 [Local] [] You inflicted 43.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:30 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:30 [Local] [] You take 13.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:30 [Local] [] You inflicted 35.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:30 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Weapons Handling skill.
2011-08-03 23:29:31 [Local] [] You inflicted 49.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:33 [Local] [] You inflicted 25.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:34 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:29:34 [Local] [] You take 17.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:34 [Local] [] You have gained experience in your Athletics skill.
2011-08-03 23:29:35 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:36 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:36 [Local] [] You take 12.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:37 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:38 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:39 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:40 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:29:41 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:42 [Local] [] MISS
2011-08-03 23:29:43 [Local] [] You inflicted 40.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:44 [Local] [] You inflicted 23.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:44 [Local] [] You have gained Dexterity.
2011-08-03 23:29:45 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:46 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:47 [Local] [] You take 16.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:47 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:48 [Local] [] Yoshi Messenger Sensei manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier Light (L)) worth 57 PED!
2011-08-03 23:29:48 [Local] [] You inflicted 39.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:49 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 54.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:51 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:52 [Local] [] Scm Ghost Assassin manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier Light (L)) worth 189 PED!
2011-08-03 23:29:52 [Local] [] You inflicted 40.3 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:29:53 [Local] [] Entropia Universe time: 2011-08-03 23:29:53
2011-08-03 23:29:53 [Local] [] Session time: 00:22:17



i even have 2 message per seconds, my connection must not be so bad..............

now, i would not say some stupid but it cannot be an idea if you go out there and test them by your self????
if we get very different results this can mean
1) the reg is in some way affected by server speed connection
2) the data are afftecte to how the client get them
3) other

or

we get the same data and amen

Dr.D.C. said:

now, i would not say some stupid but it cannot be an idea if you go out there and test them by your self????
if we get very different results this can mean
1) the reg is in some way affected by server speed connection
2) the data are afftecte to how the client get them
3) other

or

we get the same data and amen

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Just guessing what the problem might be...

Your internet connection is fine, this shouldn't cause any problems
The complete chat log shows globals every now and then, so i think we can exclude server lag
The chat log shows no big deviations, it is very unlikely that your client froze for several seconds.


It seems your data are indeed just fine, maybe a smaller finisher gun with less overkill will give more precise results - but except guardian which is way lower than expected, the test look quite good:

Both tests on young just differ 0.37 seconds, mature look even better (0.034 seconds difference), old and dominant are within 1 second (still good results, let's not forget that the timestamps are rounded down, this can cause up to 2 seconds difference in the timing), and the result for alpha is 0.7 from the result i calculated for the first test.


This looks all very promising, the "ticks" Hijacker mentioned seem to cause way less trouble than expected - the result for guardian must not be wrong, it is just an assumption that higher maturity will have higher regen rates, but as i mentioned earlier, higher maturites on argos can have even less HP, so maybe MA made this on purpose.



We will just have to repeat the tests, with smaller weapons or wait in between shots, but i think were getting somewhere here - I will do some test runs on my own, i just need to find some time - then we can compare our results and check again.


/Edit: Maybe we can confirm the entropedia values, which are exactly 1% of the base HP - this would make things way easier!

I caught your problem.. your first chat log (the one you edited out other values) is missing the first two attacks..

2011-08-03 23:13:49 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 52.9 points of damage.

That'll increase total damage by 81.7 and total time by 2 seconds..

2011-08-03 23:13:49 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 52.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:51 [Local] [] You inflicted 23.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:53 [Local] [] You inflicted 23.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:56 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:57 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:58 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:59 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:02 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:03 [Local] [] You inflicted 26.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:04 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:05 [Local] [] You inflicted 52.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:06 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:07 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:10 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:11 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:13 [Local] [] You inflicted 22.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:15 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:16 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:17 [Local] [] You inflicted 43.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:18 [Local] [] You inflicted 35.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:19 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:20 [Local] [] You inflicted 41.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:21 [Local] [] You inflicted 33.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:22 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:14:23 [Local] [] You inflicted 32.2 points of damage.

Total Damage : 1084.6 (between 1052.4 and 1084.6 if you want to account for possible error)
Total Time: 34 seconds
Base HP: 850
Regenerated damage (202.4 - 234.6)
Possible Regeneration speed (not accounting for regeneration tick error): (5.95 - 6.9)

Still lower than expected though

Hijacker27 said:

I caught your problem.. your first chat log (the one you edited out other values) is missing the first two attacks..

2011-08-03 23:13:49 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:13:50 [Local] [] You inflicted 52.9 points of damage.

That'll increase total damage by 81.7 and total time by 2 seconds..

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Great find!

I wasn't so far off with "missing values" after all, just that it wasn't the network.


We shouldn't process data by hand (that's why i suggested the *** ALLO YOUNG marker earlier, so a parser can easily split kills) - hijacker, are you familiar with regular expressions or want me to set up a parser script for that?

Or... wasn't there a working log parser at entropiabay already? Or was that only parsing hit messages for the hit vs. evade study?



And are you sure there is not more missing?
(152.9+81.7)/(32+2) = 6.9 - that's still a bit low...

wizzszz said:

Great find!

I wasn't so far off with "missing values" after all, just that it wasn't the network.


We shouldn't process data by hand (that's why i suggested the *** ALLO YOUNG marker earlier, so a parser can easily split kills) - hijacker, are you familiar with regular expressions or want me to set up a parser script for that?

Or... wasn't there a working log parser at entropiabay already? Or was that only parsing hit messages for the hit vs. evade study?



And are you sure there is not more missing?
(152.9+81.7)/(32+2) = 6.9 - that's still a bit low...

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Already have a parser script running for my evade analysis program, give me a few minutes to modify it for ya. I can just copy and paste the source code in this thread once I've got it working if you've got a working java environment. (or I can compile it into a .jar with the rest of my program if you trust me)

Source code for the main class here

And if you want an executable jar..
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13218827/Entropia Hunting Calculator.jar

Hijacker27 said:

Already have a parser script running for my evade analysis program, give me a few minutes to modify it for ya. I can just copy and paste the source code in this thread once I've got it working if you've got a working java environment. (or I can compile it into a .jar with the rest of my program if you trust me)

Source code for the main class here

Code:

/*
 * To change this template, choose Tools | Templates
 * and open the template in the editor.
 */
package entropiahuntingcalculator;

import java.awt.Dimension;
import java.awt.event.ActionEvent;
import java.awt.event.ActionListener;
import java.io.*;
import java.util.ArrayList;
import java.util.GregorianCalendar;
import javax.swing.*;

/**
 *
 * @author Peter
 */
public class DamageParser extends JPanel implements ActionListener {

    SpringLayout layout;
    JLabel fileLabel, startLabel, endLabel;
    JFormattedTextField startField, endField;
    JButton open;
    JScrollPane scroller;
    JFileChooser fc;
    JTextArea data;
    int returnVal, year, month, day, hour, minute, second, hits, indexStart, indexEnd;
    long first, last, timeElapsed;
    float totalDamage;
    File chatlog;
    FileReader fr;
    BufferedReader br;
    String str, endToken;
    ArrayList<GregorianCalendar> hitArray = new ArrayList<GregorianCalendar>();
    ArrayList<Float> attacks = new ArrayList<Float>();

    public DamageParser() {

        layout = new SpringLayout();
        this.setLayout(layout);

        fileLabel = new JLabel("Select the file you want to parse");
        startLabel = new JLabel("Enter the start token");
        endLabel = new JLabel("Enter the stop token");
        startField = new JFormattedTextField();
        endField = new JFormattedTextField();
        open = new JButton("Browse");
        fc = new JFileChooser();

        data = new JTextArea("Hit Data\n", 20, 40);
        data.setEditable(false);
        scroller = new JScrollPane(data);

        open.addActionListener(this);

        this.add(fileLabel);
        this.add(startLabel);
        this.add(endLabel);
        this.add(startField);
        this.add(endField);
        this.add(open);
        this.add(scroller);

        position(fileLabel, 10, 10);
        position(startLabel, 10, 50);
        position(startField, 150, 50);
        position(endLabel, 10, 80);
        position(endField, 150, 80);
        position(open, 200, 10);
        position(scroller, 300, 10);

        startField.setPreferredSize(new Dimension(100, 20));
        endField.setPreferredSize(new Dimension(100, 20));
    }

    public void actionPerformed(ActionEvent e) {
        if (e.getSource() == open) {
            returnVal = fc.showOpenDialog(open);
            if (returnVal == JFileChooser.APPROVE_OPTION) {
                chatlog = fc.getSelectedFile();
                try {
                    data.setText("Hit Data\n");
                    hitArray.clear();
                    attacks.clear();
                    endToken = endField.getText();
                    if (endToken.equals("")){
                        endToken = "Somethingyou'llnevereverseeinachatlogo.O";
                    }
                    fr = new FileReader(chatlog);
                    br = new BufferedReader(fr);
                    str = br.readLine();
                    if (!startField.getText().equals("")) {
                        while (!str.contains(startField.getText())) {
                            str = br.readLine();
                        }
                    }
                    while ((str != null) && (!str.contains(endToken))) {
                        if (str.contains("[Local] [] You take")) {
                            data.append(str + "\n");
                            indexStart = str.indexOf("take") + 5;
                            indexEnd = str.indexOf("points") - 1;
                            year = Integer.parseInt(str.substring(0, 4));
                            month = Integer.parseInt(str.substring(5, 7));
                            day = Integer.parseInt(str.substring(8, 10));
                            hour = Integer.parseInt(str.substring(11, 13));
                            minute = Integer.parseInt(str.substring(14, 16));
                            second = Integer.parseInt(str.substring(17, 19));
                            hitArray.add(new GregorianCalendar(year, month, day, hour, minute, second));
                            attacks.add(Float.parseFloat(str.substring(indexStart, indexEnd)));
                        }
                        str = br.readLine();
                    }
                } catch (FileNotFoundException exception) {
                    System.out.println("file does not exist");
                } catch (IOException ioexception) {
                    ioexception.printStackTrace();
                }
                hits = hitArray.size();
                if (hits == 0) {
                    data.append("No Data Found :(");
                } else {
                    first = hitArray.get(0).getTimeInMillis();
                    last = hitArray.get(hitArray.size() - 1).getTimeInMillis();
                    timeElapsed = (last - first) / 1000;
                    data.append("\n\nHits: " + hits + "\nTime Elapsed: " + timeElapsed + " seconds");
                    totalDamage = 0;
                    for (int a = 0; a < attacks.size() - 1; a++) {
                        totalDamage += attacks.get(a);
                    }
                    totalDamage *= 10;
                    totalDamage = Math.round(totalDamage);
                    totalDamage /= 10;
                    data.append("\nTotal Damage: " + totalDamage);
                }
            }
        }
    }

    private void position(JComponent obj, int x, int y) {
        layout.putConstraint(SpringLayout.WEST, obj, x, SpringLayout.WEST, this);
        layout.putConstraint(SpringLayout.NORTH, obj, y, SpringLayout.NORTH, this);
    }
}

And if you want an executable jar..
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13218827/Entropia Hunting Calculator.jar

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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i did all by hands grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Dr.D.C. said:

mature
2011-08-03 23:26:19 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:21 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:24 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.8 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:25 [Local] [] You inflicted 30.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:26 [Local] [] You inflicted 46.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:29 [Local] [] You inflicted 42.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:30 [Local] [] You inflicted 48.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:31 [Local] [] You inflicted 28.4 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:32 [Local] [] You inflicted 38.2 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:34 [Local] [] You inflicted 50.0 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:36 [Local] [] You inflicted 44.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:38 [Local] [] You inflicted 34.6 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:38 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:40 [Local] [] You inflicted 45.7 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:40 [Local] [] You inflicted 22.9 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:45 [Local] [] Critical hit - additional damage! You inflict 107.5 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:46 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.1 points of damage.
2011-08-03 23:26:47 [Local] [] You inflicted 53.6 points of damage.

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The damage for this mature is summed up incorrect, too

I got 811.4 total damge inflicted in 28 seconds ( would be a regernation of 6.84 HP/sec), which doesn't show up for mature in your table...

Hijacker27 said:

And if you want an executable jar..
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13218827/Entropia Hunting Calculator.jar

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Bah, java - why is everyone using java these days, a pretty much dead and useless language, only used for teaching students because it's free and doesn't look like scripting - way too clumsy...

I thought more of a php version, which doesn't require running any code on the client machine - i hoped that some more people will join this project...

I made a quick'n' dirty php version, just copy and save the code below to a .php file (>= php 5.1)

very nice guys, now who go there to kick some allo ass????

Dr.D.C. said:

very nice guys, now who go there to kick some allo ass????

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I will go spank some allos, in approx. half an hour.

Didn't find anything above Allo Old, but i killed some Estos, too

Here the raw results, i'll do the calculation of the regen rates later:
(I took the amp off in the middle of the run, to have some results with lower dmg/sec)

I am about to evaluate the results, with a bit of extra added (taking into account that the time might be 1 sec off and that the last shot might be all overkill)

From what it looks now, the problematic value with the allo guardian might have been an unnoticed second hunter nearby who shot the allo, too.


Testing it myself has shown that some minor improvements are needed, i.e. to make sure the mob does not regenerate to full health in between (this may happen when the "tick" comes right after the first shot, and/or the following shots are misses) and some other smaller things.



I think i will do some more tests, allo young only, and i need someone to heal me, because i plan to use something with a very low damage (except for first shot).

Expected regen rate should be between 5.4 and 6.1, and the weapon of choice should have many attacks but low single damage and an effective dmg/sec of 7-8 (it will take like 5 -10 min to kill a single allo, but after 5-10 kills the results should be precise enough for a definitive answer, from what it looks with my modified evaluation, it could indeed be 5.6, that's 1% of the base hp per second)



If someone has a Boom CCC (L) for sale, can craft a Loughlin Smacker One or is interested in healing me (paid ofc, newb healer preferred, Allo youngs don't hit me often), please drop me a line via PM.

I did 6 long time kills (up to almost 30 minutes), and have reduced the deviation as far as possible.


Allophyl Young regeneration = 5.380 HP/second

To be precise, its 5.380 +/- 0.01055, that's an error margin of 0.196%




This means the value in entropedia (5.6) is wrong, no surprise: it was based on assumptions only.

Hello this is a nice find.
Now you pls don t scream but i have a new method to suggest and maybe a specific tool can be built about.
let consider this young (previous data)

2011-08-03 23:18:53 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.4 points of damage. 57.4
2011-08-03 23:19:00 [Local] [] You inflicted 37.4 points of damage. 37.4
2011-08-03 23:19:01 [Local] [] You inflicted 47.4 points of damage. 47.4
2011-08-03 23:19:02 [Local] [] You inflicted 57.3 points of damage. 57.3
2011-08-03 23:19:03 [Local] [] You inflicted 55.8 points of damage. 55.8
2011-08-03 23:19:04 [Local] [] You inflicted 55.6 points of damage. 55.6
2011-08-03 23:19:05 [Local] [] You inflicted 52.5 points of damage. 52.5
2011-08-03 23:19:06 [Local] [] You inflicted 24.5 points of damage. 24.5
2011-08-03 23:19:08 [Local] [] You inflicted 36.5 points of damage. 36.5
2011-08-03 23:19:10 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.6 points of damage. 56.6
2011-08-03 23:19:11 [Local] [] You inflicted 35.1 points of damage. 35.1
2011-08-03 23:19:13 [Local] [] You inflicted 31.6 points of damage. 31.6
Tx 2011-08-03 23:19:14 [Local] [] You inflicted 56.6 points of damage. 56.6
2011-08-03 23:19:15 [Local] [] You inflicted 27.1 points of damage. 27.1
TF2011-08-03 23:19:16 [Local] [] You inflicted 51.5 points of damage. 51.5


the mob has hp 560. At theline in bold i inflict 604.3 dmg that means an over kill of dmg-hp=604.3-560=44.3
The time and the dmg inflicted until TX should be the necessary time to kill the mob if it doesn t regenerate.
During the Tx the mob regenerate, dunno how much but all the regeneration is balanced with the extra dmg inflict between Tx and TF
During this time i inflict 27.1+51.5 (last two messages) and at this i should add also the overkill 44.3 for a tot of 122.9

i killed the mob in 23 sec; so 122.9/23 sec= 5.3

i did the same calculation for the others and i got:
mature 5.02
mature 6.8
old 8.13
old 7.15
dom 8.3
dom 8.5
young 5.3
young 6.8

now i think that your way to calculate the reg is the perfect way. It s just boring like hell. we cannot ask people to test this mob by mob, use a low dmg gun, so pay in armor, fap, weapon decay etc. I mean just some crazy like you , me and maybe Haj will do it. But we have so many mobs around that it will be an hell of work.
In effect i think the variation comes from the over killing at the end and the over killing, in my experiment , in the bold zone.

The over killing at the end can be reduced using a low dmg weapon, the over killing in the bold zone it a little bit more tricky.Maybe situation can be fixed using a counter, some that display in realtime the dmg inflict, and if i m not wrong some of the hunter tool here around already does this.
Let say i have a mob 500 hp, i shoot at him with whatever weapon, the tool display me the dmg inflicted so when i m closed to 500 i can use some low dmg weapon.
But also this can be boring and tricky at the end. Maybe the best way is to do the media between many experiments.
Dunno what is better, but what i know is if we want the help of people around we need to setup some, fast, easy and cheap or it will not work.

ok now you mad on me right???

DC

Dr.D.C. said:

the mob has hp 560. At theline in bold i inflict 604.3 dmg that means an over kill of dmg-hp=604.3-560=44.3
The time and the dmg inflicted until TX should be the necessary time to kill the mob if it doesn t regenerate.
During the Tx the mob regenerate, dunno how much but all the regeneration is balanced with the extra dmg inflict between Tx and TF
During this time i inflict 27.1+51.5 (last two messages) and at this i should add also the overkill 44.3 for a tot of 122.9

i killed the mob in 23 sec; so 122.9/23 sec= 5.3

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This is exactly the same method we've used before - it doesn't matter if you subtract the base health from the grand total or from a batch total.


Total of all damage messages is 682.9

682.9 - 560 = 122.9

It's 122.9, no matter when we subtract the 560.

wizzszz said:

This is exactly the same method we've used before - it doesn't matter if you subtract the base health from the grand total or from a batch total.


Total of all damage messages is 682.9

682.9 - 560 = 122.9

It's 122.9, no matter when we subtract the 560.

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Maybe like usual i miss some, but there are not the same identical data

now old
mature 5.02 5.3
mature 6.8 5.5
old 8.13 8.13
old 7.15 7.15
dom 8.3 8.5
dom 8.5 7.8
young 5.3 6.4
young 6.8 6.8


My point is, we should be perfect and never get the correct data for each mob/ each maturity, or maybe better accept some error using a fast and easier method hoping that many inputs will over time balance this????

DC

Dr.D.C. said:

Maybe like usual i miss some, but there are not the same identical data

now old
mature 5.02 5.3
mature 6.8 5.5
old 8.13 8.13
old 7.15 7.15
dom 8.3 8.5
dom 8.5 7.8
young 5.3 6.4
young 6.8 6.8

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The results have to be the same, because the method is (technically) the same - maybe you confused the order or made a type in the calculations or something like that.

Dr.D.C. said:

My point is, we should be perfect and never get the correct data for each mob/ each maturity, or maybe better accept some error using a fast and easier method hoping that many inputs will over time balance this????

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Of course we have to find a balance between perfect results and effort - but we should not forget that if we have some error in the hit rate and some error in the regen rate (which determines kill speed), these errors all add up when combined...

I think my last results were absolutely acceptable, and well, i had to find the problems, that's why it took 2 runs and several hours - the way i did the last mob is enough, which required 30 minutes of keeping the mob alive (20 or maybe only 15 minutes will give acceptable results, too) - this has to be done once per mob&maturity only, but i hope that the mob maturity progresses linear, so we just have to do that for 2 or 3 mob levels.

And i hope some more people will help us with this, and it's not like the results are useless when not yet complete, we can always close the gaps later on.

our data already shown that progression is not linear (allo guardian )

I missed that you edited the post while i replied

Dr.D.C. said:

The over killing at the end can be reduced using a low dmg weapon

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That's exactly what i did.

Dr.D.C. said:

Let say i have a mob 500 hp, i shoot at him with whatever weapon, the tool display me the dmg inflicted so when i m closed to 500 i can use some low dmg weapon.

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But when you have inflicted 500 dmg, the mob has already regenerated some health.

To tell the exact point when you need to switch to a lower weapon you need the regen rate...

Dr.D.C. said:

But also this can be boring and tricky at the end. Maybe the best way is to do the media between many experiments.
Dunno what is better, but what i know is if we want the help of people around we need to setup some, fast, easy and cheap or it will not work.

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My method is not really fast, and it's not exactly cheap, too, but i did this alone... and with 1 or 2 helpers we could count the health regen "ticks", this will very likely reduce the needed time (and money) a LOT - i already planned this, but shooting/fapping kept me too busy to count the ticks - they are easy to miss when you shoot the same second.
1 person watching can count them, and this will be the ultimate breakthrough, as it removes the last source of uncertainty.

Dr.D.C. said:

ok now you mad on me right???

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Lol, no - don't worry.

Dr.D.C. said:

our data already shown that progression is not linear (allo guardian )

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I think you missed that bit from my post:

wizzszz said:

From what it looks now, the problematic value with the allo guardian might have been an unnoticed second hunter nearby who shot the allo, too.

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We still have no 2nd result for guardians, but:
Give me a good spot where i can spend 30 minutes shooting an allo guardian without sweaters and unwanted spawn and i'll give you the exact result.

Originally Posted by wizzszz
From what it looks now, the problematic value with the allo guardian might have been an unnoticed second hunter nearby who shot the allo, too.



dunno the reason of that value, but i was alone shooting at it for sure.

DC

Dr.D.C. said:

dunno the reason of that value, but i was alone shooting at it for sure.

DC

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Maybe someone damaged it and got killed before you entered and it wasn't back to 100% yet?


However, Hijacker was right, the health goes up in ticks, and this is what causes the problems.

I think with 2 more assumptions we can solve the riddle:

1. Health goes up in fixed intervals (we must check this, but it looks like 4 or 5 seconds)
2. Everytime a "tick" increases health, it rises by the same amount, and this amount is limited to 1 decimal (same as heals and damage messages), i.e. 10.5 and not 10.478

What causes problems at the moment is this:
(simplified example, tick interval is 5 seconds, ticks come at X:00, X:05, X:10, X:15 and X:20)

First example:
First dmg at X:03
Killshot at X:16
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Kill time = 13 seconds
Ticks in interval = 3 (X:05, X:10 and X:15)




Second example:
First dmg at X:06
Killshot at X:19
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Kill time = 13 seconds
Ticks in interval = 2 (X:10 and X:15)



Kill time is the same (13 seconds), but the first example has more 1 more tick...


Questions we need to answer:

Time between ticks?
Ticks are same for all mobs/avatars or at least same acrosss maturities?
Ticks are maybe at fixed MA times? (independent from server you are currently on)


If my assumptions are correct, and we find answers to at least the first two questions we will have 100% exact answers w/o much effort.

wizzszz said:

Maybe someone damaged it and got killed before you entered and it wasn't back to 100% yet?


However, Hijacker was right, the health goes up in ticks, and this is what causes the problems.

I think with 2 more assumptions we can solve the riddle:

1. Health goes up in fixed intervals (we must check this, but it looks like 4 or 5 seconds)
2. Everytime a "tick" increases health, it rises by the same amount, and this amount is limited to 1 decimal (same as heals and damage messages), i.e. 10.5 and not 10.478

What causes problems at the moment is this:
(simplified example, tick interval is 5 seconds, ticks come at X:00, X:05, X:10, X:15 and X:20)

First example:
First dmg at X:03
Killshot at X:16
---------------------
Kill time = 13 seconds
Ticks in interval = 3 (X:05, X:10 and X:15)




Second example:
First dmg at X:06
Killshot at X:19
---------------------
Kill time = 13 seconds
Ticks in interval = 2 (X:10 and X:15)



Kill time is the same (13 seconds), but the first example has more 1 more tick...


Questions we need to answer:

Time between ticks?
Ticks are same for all mobs/avatars or at least same acrosss maturities?
Ticks are maybe at fixed MA times? (independent from server you are currently on)


If my assumptions are correct, and we find answers to at least the first two questions we will have 100% exact answers w/o much effort.

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well i guess the only way to misure the ticks is just shoot the mob down and look at it. Maybe we can press U each time the tick happen. Wwe can also re shoot the same mob many time and than analyze the tick delay many time. I guess it s safe test this before extensivelly in a young mob (dunno why but alo for me look ok) and than in a bigger one.

Dr.D.C. said:

well i guess the only way to misure the ticks is just shoot the mob down and look at it. Maybe we can press U each time the tick happen. Wwe can also re shoot the same mob many time and than analyze the tick delay many time. I guess it s safe test this before extensivelly in a young mob (dunno why but alo for me look ok) and than in a bigger one.

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Yeah, that's the easiest way to do it, unless you have someone who shoots it's health back down, then you can measure across more ticks.

Allos should have at least 15 ticks to regenerate fully, so measuring from tick 1 to 11 (that's 10 intervals!)should give nice results.
(I think it will be either 4 seconds, that's 15 updates per minute, or 5 seconds, that's 12 updates per minute - but nothing in between, so counting from tick 1 to 11 should be 40 or 50 seconds, exactly, and nothing in between)

Avatars used to regenerate all at the same time, so i think it is a universe-wide thing, and the same for all mobs, but this needs confirmation.


Ill do a test later, but it isn't very difficult, so maybe both of us test it in different places, to make sure we have the same results.



/Edit: Or we meet up ingame and i'll keep it's health at ~50% and you count from tick 1 to 101, to be 100% sure.