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Some fun space pirate countermeasures to make them think twice:

Carry around large stacks of Nova fragments.

Carry around sweat, split into stacks of 1 so that when they loot you all they see are single bottles of sweat.

Carry around alot of Next Island crystals or other worthless body parts that lack blueprints.

Travel in a large fleet with your friends, who also carry these items.

Enjoy the thought of them wasting ammo for items that have virtually no value.

If you want to really make them mad, shoot at their ships too, so that they have to pay ammo + repair costs.
 
Yeah, that'll teach 'em!!!111one



How about "Don't carry anything lootable at all"? :scratch2:
 
Better still, don't go.
 
You forgot the traditional PVP 'Poop Bomb'
 
carry 1 dung unit. exactly what those thieves are worth :yay:
 
Make a list of all space pirates and never buy anything from them in auction again. Even though mindark condones criminals, doesnt mean we have to. Hit them where they actually can be hit. THeir pedcards.
 
Spawn said:
Make a list of all space pirates and never buy anything from them in auction again. Even though mindark condones criminals, doesnt mean we have to. Hit them where they actually can be hit. THeir pedcards.
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good point.... :)
 
malasuerte said:
...those thieves ...
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Spawn said:
... never buy anything from them in auction again.
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I hope you guys are joking - it's just a game, PvP is "enter at own risk" it's not like someone forces you to go there, it is part of the game, an extra thrill, what you take there or loot there is always branded "yours - if you manage to get it out".

To call the more lucky (more skilled, better equipped) guys "thieves" is beyond ridiculous... it's not like you should be there in the first place if you don't stand a chance in a PvP fight.
And to prompt people to take "countermeasures", especially outside of PvP is just... :banghead:

Stay out of PvP if you can't take the heat or learn to accept the losses - either way, there's nothing wrong with looting people in lootable PvP - the only thing being wrong here is your attitude.
 
OoOoOoo I like that idea!

Spawn said:
Make a list of all space pirates and never buy anything from them in auction again. Even though mindark condones criminals, doesnt mean we have to. Hit them where they actually can be hit. THeir pedcards.
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Perfect!!
P.S.How come i have a feeling dung is going to go up in ped...:laugh:
 
wizzszz said:
it's not like someone forces you to go there
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Well there's not really a choice either is there? The above statement was true for pvp lootable area's on calypso. You could easily avoid those areas, and still get full gameplay satisfaction.

If I don't choose to go to lootable pvp, then I won't ever be able to visit other planets again.

Also I don't see what's wrong in not buying stuff from people that they got from stealing from others? What's wrong with that attitude? It's my choice to make, my freedom to have my own set of values and act accordingly. that's not beyond ridiculous, it's common decency.
 
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Spawn said:
Well there's not really a choice either is there? The above statement was true for pvp lootable area's on calypso. You could easily avoid those areas, and still get full gameplay satisfaction.

If I don't choose to go to lootable pvp, then I won't ever be able to visit other planets again.

Also I don't see what's wrong in not buying stuff from people that they got from stealing from others? What's wrong with that attitude? It's my choice to make.
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isn't the planet you are on supposed to provide you with full gameplay? Why do you need to visit other planets for if it does?

You can easily avoid space and still get your satisfaction on your home planet! Have a staycation.
 
burnsey said:
isn't the planet you are on supposed to provide you with full gameplay? Why do you need to visit other planets for if it does?

You can easily avoid space and still get your satisfaction on your home planet! Have a staycation.
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Yes. going to France in a bit, where I do have to pay toll and there is a slight chance I will get looted.. but thank god for real life insurance.
 
burnsey said:
isn't the planet you are on supposed to provide you with full gameplay? Why do you need to visit other planets for if it does?

You can easily avoid space and still get your satisfaction on your home planet! Have a staycation.
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Sure lets have a whole universe and just stay in one corner. :rolleyes:

Personally I want to play mostly on Arkadia but I still have heaps left to do on Caly and would like to come back regularly to do missions and such. Most loot is in stackables. Looks like I am going to have to TT it rather than combine it with my Arkadia loot to make saleable quantities. Awesome.

I wouldn't mind lootable pvp in space if I could play around it. I understand this is just what some people are looking for to have fun. But reality is, it reduces my play experience and costs me money. I'm not really into boycotts but I'll definitely be paying more attention to who I buy from and be looking to avoid buying from known pirate individuals or societies if there is an alternative source for the things I need.

KikkiJikki
 
wizzszz said:
I hope you guys are joking - it's just a game, PvP is "enter at own risk" it's not like someone forces you to go there, it is part of the game, an extra thrill, what you take there or loot there is always branded "yours - if you manage to get it out".

To call the more lucky (more skilled, better equipped) guys "thieves" is beyond ridiculous... it's not like you should be there in the first place if you don't stand a chance in a PvP fight.
And to prompt people to take "countermeasures", especially outside of PvP is just... :banghead:

Stay out of PvP if you can't take the heat or learn to accept the losses - either way, there's nothing wrong with looting people in lootable PvP - the only thing being wrong here is your attitude.
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This is a Real Cash Economy. They are stealing real money. Hence they are thieves. The fact that it's a part of the game and sanctioned by MA doesn't make it any less morally objectionable.

It is not a game for many traders that used to travel from planet to planet with their merchandise. For many small traders, to be looted in space would mean going out of business.

As much as you have the right to your opinion I have the right to mine. And I, as many others, think lootable PVP in a RCE is wrong and I have the right to say it as I see it and to tell others that think like me that if they are against it they should take steps to show their objection.

burnsey said:
isn't the planet you are on supposed to provide you with full gameplay? Why do you need to visit other planets for if it does?

You can easily avoid space and still get your satisfaction on your home planet! Have a staycation.
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Mindark created an essential blueprint that uses resources from 3 different planets so staying in on place is not a choice. They will probably create many more like this. Also there are blueprints in Arkadia that use resources not available in the planet, so the crafters will have to travel to get the resources or be forced to buy it from pirates or from traders that will inflate the MU to cover their losses. This will make the items crafted more expensive and affect the game of the players of Arkadia.

People have friends in other planets that they might want to visit, there are events in other planets that some people might want to enjoy. There probably are many other reasons why people that don't enjoy PVP might have to visit other planets and with this VU Mindark is creating a new breed of players devoted to ruin the game for this people.

So I will not have deals with them and will encourage others to do the same.
 
Nothing worse than a thief that refuses to admit they are one.

Selling 7k dung at TP!
 
I think it is great they have added a karma system. Assaulting and robbing someone may be possible, but it isn't nice. Those that want to can do it. And be branded as pirate. Seems fine to me.
 
Spawn said:
Well there's not really a choice either is there? The above statement was true for pvp lootable area's on calypso. You could easily avoid those areas, and still get full gameplay satisfaction.

If I don't choose to go to lootable pvp, then I won't ever be able to visit other planets again.

Also I don't see what's wrong in not buying stuff from people that they got from stealing from others? What's wrong with that attitude? It's my choice to make, my freedom to have my own set of values and act accordingly. that's not beyond ridiculous, it's common decency.
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I like what you say about not buy stuff to pirates. But is same problem when scammers use second avatars for sell things they "loot". But is good idea. Not buy from pirates and ask Mindark more control for how people use second avatars (they know some people do).
 
Players with fighters may be able to provide a service escorting merchants across PvP for a fee. Alternatively catching a ride on a Mothership, once they actually work maybe an option. Eitherway, interplanetary trade just became interesting.
But of note, there is hardly anyone in space atm, so doing trade runs is fairly safe atm.
 
EarlVonKippler said:
I think it is great they have added a karma system. Assaulting and robbing someone may be possible, but it isn't nice. Those that want to can do it. And be branded as pirate. Seems fine to me.
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And what with that?. Perhaps is posible we can read a list with "bad karma" players. And?. Perhaps we can not say "hi" if we find this players in the planets?

Peope will do PK in space for the loot or because air to air combat can be funny, and all other players using Space we will try evade this players. Mindark give us this space system, give us too Pirate Base, and we can do nothing for change.

Greetings.
 
If you are in a big city, near a TP, and you see a player asking for taxi for other planet, you can accept if you want, but never say in local chat "Ey mate, i will take you for xx peds. We will take off in 5 minutes".

Open private chat with the player. If he accept your price go both to another tp and when no one see you spawn the ship and launch to space. Perhaps other ships cannot follow you.

:lolup:

Is a joke, of course.
 
I honestly cant tell.

Thieves? Are you guys for real?
 
Talk about how lootable is "thievery" eh...and to think this very same guy is in here acting like mistah clean. Lucky you i couldnt be bothered to send this shit in, but dont come rap yer trash in here when you know you it ! Standing in there stealing kegs mrn clean huh ..... didnt know i could see ya inside that beer pump huh :silly:

 
Guys,
Space is PK controlled. If you need to travel it you have three options:
A. Gamble it
B. Learn to fight + gear + skill
C. Pay tax.

Actualy I dont understand why you may ever be interested in space. Its an empty place, almost 2d, you move 10 minutes in one direction and screen is almost not changed..
Stay on planet where you see nice views, waters (there is a lake in space, btw .. ;) ), nice mob which pays PEDs..
 
Question about targeting in PvP areas of space .. do they actually have to aim at you or can the pussys just drag your ships health bar and target that? This will likely get some shot at some huh? Whatever works is fair in PvP I suppose.
 
Hi.

I cannot say for sure because i not have weapon at this moment, but movement is done with mouse. I think you cannot do "select target". I think you must move "aim point" (i forgot the name, sorry) and click left the other ship for shot.

Greetings.
 
wizzszz said:
Yeah, that'll teach 'em!!!111one



How about "Don't carry anything lootable at all"? :scratch2:
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:)

Of all people I figured you might enjoy the give-em-the-finger approach and appreciate the subtle differences between carrying nothing (and thus saying nothing) and carrying a bunch of garbage (and thus telling them you actually took the time to make sure their cargo holds were loaded with rubbish if anything at all from that trip.)

Guess you were too busy giving the finger to have paid attention to the subtly sardonic nature of this sort of response.

Its OK. I aint mad at ya.
 
Magyar_Republic said:
:)

Of all people I figured you might enjoy the give-em-the-finger approach and appreciate the subtle differences between carrying nothing (and thus saying nothing) and carrying a bunch of garbage (and thus telling them you actually took the time to make sure their cargo holds were loaded with rubbish if anything at all from that trip.)

Guess you were too busy giving the finger to have paid attention to the subtly sardonic nature of this sort of response.

Its OK. I aint mad at ya.
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Oh, i paid attention, and of course i didn't miss the subtle part of having someone loot shit (that makes even PvP loots somewhat shitty, even when you get ~4 PED per kill, at significantly lower kill costs in average...)


It is just...

You can either prepare for the worst and hope for the best (that's why you'd carry some poop with you in lootable PvP)

or

You can simply do your best to not get looted, and if you still get looted it will be somewhat ok, because the one who shot you was the better PKer/had better gear/was utilizing better tactics - and if this is the case, the guy looting me has deserved the 4 PED - carrying around dung has a negative connotation somewhere along the lines of

"i'll be looted anyway" and "that damn bastard robbed me"

and well, i refuse both, the pessimistic approach and the "begrudging them their loot ".



See it like this:
Entering PvP costs 1 toxic shot to enter, everytime - if you make it out without being looted you've had a free ride!
There is no place for dung bombs in this concept.
 
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