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This thread is a continuation of this thread:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...ould-botting-use-of-macros-be-allowed.299251/
The above thread is for discussing pros and cons of allowing botting/macroing.
This thread is for discussing possible solutions to the cons identified in the above thread or mitigating the cons. I have copied the table from that thread here so that we can more easily refer to it. Note I have numbered the Pros and also labelled the Cons. The numbering/labelling does not indicate any level of importance but are there so that we can refer to them more easily in discussions i.e. instead of writing MU is squeezed towards zero every time you want to discuss it, you can instead refer to it as C.
Note this thread is not about banning botting or enforcing the current MA stance of botting is not allowed. If your solution to botting is along these lines then please create your own thread. As far as this thread is concerned MA cannot or do not want to go down that route and hence in this thread we are not interested in going down that route.
The above linked thread is still open and your welcome to add more Pros and Cons in that thread and I'll update the table in both threads accordingly.
Finally please use the template below in the next post to write your solutions. Thanks.
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...ould-botting-use-of-macros-be-allowed.299251/
The above thread is for discussing pros and cons of allowing botting/macroing.
This thread is for discussing possible solutions to the cons identified in the above thread or mitigating the cons. I have copied the table from that thread here so that we can more easily refer to it. Note I have numbered the Pros and also labelled the Cons. The numbering/labelling does not indicate any level of importance but are there so that we can refer to them more easily in discussions i.e. instead of writing MU is squeezed towards zero every time you want to discuss it, you can instead refer to it as C.
Note this thread is not about banning botting or enforcing the current MA stance of botting is not allowed. If your solution to botting is along these lines then please create your own thread. As far as this thread is concerned MA cannot or do not want to go down that route and hence in this thread we are not interested in going down that route.
The above linked thread is still open and your welcome to add more Pros and Cons in that thread and I'll update the table in both threads accordingly.
Table of pros & cons of botting/macroing | |
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Pros | Cons (or negative issues) |
1) Allowing botting would be fairer | A) massive unfairness in having rules which are not enforced, so we should move out of this current situation for sure. |
2) MA does not really have an incentive to reduce macro usage as their bottom line comes from absorbing ped from cycling. If MA allows botting/macroing then they would increase their profits. Hence it is imperative for MA to actually do a rule change and allow botting/macroing. Also leads to more game development as MA would have more income. | B) MA official line is they do not condone the use of Macros or any form of automated gameplay. However, use of macros and bots is already prevalent amongst the player base. |
3) If it is allowed, it needs to be stated that way, so everyone have same and fair chances. | C) MU squeezed towards zero |
4) If allowed could be potential marketing opportunities for the game | D) the game itself is structured to encourage some form of automation. |
5) If allowed easier to develop the game as MA would not be hindered in trying to detect and deal with botters. Could concentrate their efforts on actual game development. | E) If botting is not allowed then it needs to be strictly enforced. However, it is not easy to detect even more so prove 100% that they are botting. |
6) Opportunities for MA to develop automated play utilities and tools that could lead more profitability | F) MA cannot reveal how they go about detecting botting or admit defeat. |
7) Better quality of life for players as they can participate in the game into auto mode and be doing something else in real life | G) Anyone who uses automated play will skill up faster as their avatar could be playing when they are doing something else. Also they can be playing 24/7. This would be the case for both scenarios if allowed and not allowed. |
8) ethically the right thing to do | H) Automated play in the current situation where it is not officially allowed can lead to hinderances in social interaction. Social interaction is a big component in massively mutiplayer games. |
9) current situation is unsustainable | I) It's possible if a player doesn't know what they are doing could "loose" peds faster |
10) healthier for players both physically and mentally | J) could auto mode players be exploited by other players? |
11) healthier for MA | K) In current situation MA may not be able to prove someone is botting. This could explain their reluctance to take action. Court cases can be lengthy and very costly. |
12) If MA develop some simple new features could increase social interaction. It's possible social interaction may increase without them as majority of EU players are mature. | L) MA cannot fully condone automated play for public perception reasons? (some may perceive as negative and others as positive) |
13) If MA do it right their reputation would increase among the player base | M) Could players quit seeing others botting? (this seems non sensical to me perhaps people mean this if botting is not allowed but see it going on will make them quit) |
14) If botting is allowed everyone has the opportunity to bot 24/7 and hence access the same loot opportunities. (Note there could be in game changes implemented that address this and arguably promote a more natural playstyle) | N) The issue of new players not being able to catch up to 24/7 botters. This is true when botting is not allowed and also true when botting is allowed. The ones who started botting 24/7 first are likely to always stay ahead. |
O) If botting is not allowed 24/7 botters can negatively impact legit players loot. | |
P) if botting is not allowed legit players cannot compete with the botters hence will reduce their gameplay or quit as it doesn't make sense for them to play or even try to compete. | |
Q) if botting is not allowed and effectively enforced it may not stop the 24/7 botters they will simply revert to using multiple people taking turns to play on their account hence able to play 24/7 thereby rendering the enforcement futile. | |
R) If nothing is done about botting it will have a negative impact on the game, the players and MA as well. | |
S) The use of multiple accounts that share gear could circumvent new game mechanics e.g. sleep mechanics | |
T) Some bots may negatively impact MA's profits? | |
Finally please use the template below in the next post to write your solutions. Thanks.
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