Question: Auction vs Shop vs Apartment
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Shops pay 2.5% fixed fees, shopkeepers decay for 0.1 ped per sale, so at first glance putting SKs into an apartment looks cheaper. But SKs currently go for over 4.5k ped and hold 20 items each, while upgrading a shop costs 2k ped per 20 items, so depending on how many item points you need, running a shop quickly gets way cheaper.
Auction has a limit of 30 items per planet (map) so again depending on the scale of your operations it might be out of question (of course we don't consider employing secondary avatars and risking a ban for EULA violation).
Auction has a limit of 30 items per planet (map) so again depending on the scale of your operations it might be out of question (of course we don't consider employing secondary avatars and risking a ban for EULA violation).
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isn't that just 0.5+5% of the markup?
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I suspect above formulas are probably more correct, but just putting this here for historic perspective...
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Yes, shopkeepers decay .10 per sale and then customer pays tax too.... Minimum markup in any shop is tt+1 and then tax adds on to that... so minimum is tt+1..02 overall basically with 2 pecs going to tax.
In ancient days shopkeeper decayed in a much more expense way... at some point in time Mindark change the way they worked, just like old Calypso apartments used to allow you to put items in hallways, but then they decided that it was a bad idea so removed that even though some other planets still allow it.
may have been changed again since then.... but.... as for formulas...
Shop Guide
I couldn't find one already in the forum, so here is the beginning of a collection of basic information about shops. I will elaborate as I remember more. Feel free to suggest additions/points I have missed. As an alternative to the Auction House, there are several hundred player-owned shops on...
Yes, shopkeepers decay .10 per sale and then customer pays tax too.... Minimum markup in any shop is tt+1 and then tax adds on to that... so minimum is tt+1..02 overall basically with 2 pecs going to tax.
In ancient days shopkeeper decayed in a much more expense way... at some point in time Mindark change the way they worked, just like old Calypso apartments used to allow you to put items in hallways, but then they decided that it was a bad idea so removed that even though some other planets still allow it.
may have been changed again since then.... but.... as for formulas...
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This is the most recent shop and auction fee guide that’s up to date (many are not): https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forum/index.php?threads/auction-and-shop-fee-guide.277052/
In short, neither auction nor shop fees are fixed percentages. You need specific formulas to calculate them, but anyone can roughly back calculate them with enough data points. As you increase absolute MU, the fee slows down in how quickly it increases.
As for shopkeepers, it’s hard to make them pay off since they are adding on 0.10 decay on top of the shop fee. If you’re running a shop with ROI in mind of saving auction fees while using some of that savings to discount your items under auction MU, it’s very difficult to come out ahead compared to a straight shop or even just selling on auction sometimes. If you already own a shop, it’s usually better to buy more item points than get shop keepers (barring some specific uses they have).
In short, neither auction nor shop fees are fixed percentages. You need specific formulas to calculate them, but anyone can roughly back calculate them with enough data points. As you increase absolute MU, the fee slows down in how quickly it increases.
As for shopkeepers, it’s hard to make them pay off since they are adding on 0.10 decay on top of the shop fee. If you’re running a shop with ROI in mind of saving auction fees while using some of that savings to discount your items under auction MU, it’s very difficult to come out ahead compared to a straight shop or even just selling on auction sometimes. If you already own a shop, it’s usually better to buy more item points than get shop keepers (barring some specific uses they have).
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There is also the time limit to consider. If you put an item on auction, you have max 7 days. If it doesnt sell then you lose that auction fee and have to repost with another auction fee. Shops/Pads have no end date, and you can relist without incurring costs. For stuff that is hard to sell, this must be a massive big plus for shops/pads
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