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Suggestion: Auctions for animal oils, resources, nanocubes should be global, not planet bound

100% agree.
i say this since forever
there is a conflict of interest from MA acting a a game manager
and MA acting as a planet partner (they prefer people coming to Caly for obvious activity tax reasons).
this is a bit mitigated with the recent NI, RT takeover
but still there is a conflict in ARK and CYRENE and TOULAN/DSEC/MONRIA vs Calypso
if MA goes global and put a FIXED 1/1000 auction fee and not the absurd actual amounts, economy will largely benefit

actual situation see a preference for caly (and to feed burglars that attack cargos), also PVP in space is a problem for commerce adding costs and reducing free flow of the items in all game
(i am in favor of a "global storage", too.. it is a big quality of life not cursing because we got 10.000 basic leather extractors on one planet and none on the one we are hunting.
 
agree with global auction and I don't see any reason for auction fee for unsold items. maybe the listing cost of 50 pec but currently is to expensive... and scares the new player from listing stuff... but resellers make good money from it for man many years :).
 
mczimi said:
agree with global auction and I don't see any reason for auction fee for unsold items. maybe the listing cost of 50 pec but currently is to expensive... and scares the new player from listing stuff... but resellers make good money from it for man many years :).
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No fee for unsold items, AH will be full of 1 common dung (or whatever worthless junk you can imagine) for 1k-10k-100k sb scams.
 
DRAGUNOV44 said:
I would say the game needs 1 auction house it would make things more easy !
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Considering that some people have warps that doesn't sound so great tbh
 
I think this is worth considering at least for nanocubes, they barely have any markup so smuggling them isn't viable anyway.
 
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no, let planet partners develop their own economy instead of leeching from Planet Calypso.

however, i agree that for example NI and AG should have unified auction, it's complicated from teleporting back and forth to confusing auction system, not sure if it's the same at Arkadia.
 
SoberPhil said:
I think this is worth considering at least for nanocubes, they barely have any markup so smuggling them isn't viable anyway.
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I used to think so as well, but for example on Cyrene I can sell nanocubes at over 101% 1-2k ped tt stacks. Though it does take some time.
I would like for ability to convert nanocube into universal ammo at 100.5% (shrapnel is 101% so its not that crazy idea).
Setting a minimum limit in its price, people take advantage of people not having patience to sell and make orders at 100.1-100.3% that people who have low bankroll or need ped fast sell at.
I do like the thread idea though. Ideally though, all oils too, you should be able to convert it to 100.5% universal ammo. Will be less auctioning for people and more cycling.
 
Hego Damask said:
No fee for unsold items, AH will be full of 1 common dung (or whatever worthless junk you can imagine) for 1k-10k-100k sb scams.
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Isnt that already the case?

Can't get rid of this sort of fishing no matter the system. 🤷‍♂️

Hardly see why this would or should be issue nro:1 🤔

Beside BS there would be alot more traffic and goods avaible for competive pricing.

Not to mention good PR for the game when new players check AH to see is the game dead.

Yeah nobody likes undercutting, especialy me! but in competive free market it is part of it.

Free the materials, increase the flow of PED and let us CYCLE MORE PED! 👍

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Separated planetary economy is cool and all but it hasn't worked good so far people still flock toward main hub. 🤔

This does tho offer "unique" ways to earn and compete.

Warp service on the other hand is big concern due to the investment made by ship owners and just by that valid. 👍
 
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Sub-Zero said:
I used to think so as well, but for example on Cyrene I can sell nanocubes at over 101% 1-2k ped tt stacks. Though it does take some time.
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Waiting several days or even weeks for an extra 5-10 PED isn't that much of a benefit, and at the same time you'll have to just TT "newer" cubes if your previous listings are still on auction.
 
Hego Damask said:
No fee for unsold items, AH will be full of 1 common dung (or whatever worthless junk you can imagine) for 1k-10k-100k sb scams.
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At least somebody is thinking of second order effects.
 
Imo planets need theyr own auction

1. Fck bots
2. They develop theyr own economy
3. We have people who payed money for warp able Ships
 
Hego Damask said:
No fee for unsold items, AH will be full of 1 common dung (or whatever worthless junk you can imagine) for 1k-10k-100k sb scams.
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We already have that with people adding extra 0s and listing prices for items without suffixes for the same price as items with suffixes (example A-3 Adjusted price for a regular A-3)
 
Sub-Zero said:
I used to think so as well, but for example on Cyrene I can sell nanocubes at over 101% 1-2k ped tt stacks. Though it does take some time.
I would like for ability to convert nanocube into universal ammo at 100.5% (shrapnel is 101% so its not that crazy idea).
Setting a minimum limit in its price, people take advantage of people not having patience to sell and make orders at 100.1-100.3% that people who have low bankroll or need ped fast sell at.
I do like the thread idea though. Ideally though, all oils too, you should be able to convert it to 100.5% universal ammo. Will be less auctioning for people and more cycling.
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what is the reason mindark should give you 100.5% markup for free? you can convert shrapnel already
 
Angela Draniie Cloud said:
We already have that with people adding extra 0s and listing prices for items without suffixes for the same price as items with suffixes (example A-3 Adjusted price for a regular A-3)
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For BO yes, i have seen some offers, but that is BO.
If no fee on unsold, they will do it with SB prices, so if nobody was accidently bidding on it, it was free.

There are some scam sales today in AH. After such change half of AH would be scam sales.
 
I can imagine it working like the current system, only with the difference the fee starts with 0p instead of 0.5p if you post for TT, and in case it gets any bid above TT, it jumps to the usual 0.5p and above as currently works.
So in case you post your stuff for TT and not sold, or sold at TT, there were no fee.
Anything higher than TT, the same fee as today.
But if somebody gonna post 1 common dung for 10k peds, he should just pay the fee for it as he need to pay it today.
Well, AH would be still full of bullshit offers, in hope somebody accidently bid 1 ped on worthless stuff, so this also makes more harm than good anyway.

Well, most of the stuff you wont be able to post for TT anyway, so for this they might also would need to change AH to be able to post / bid not just full ped ammounts.
 
While I'm not sure if there is "silver bullet" for this, I wholeheartedly agreed with the universal auction. There may be certain downsides, but overall I think it will help a lot. Personally, I have VERY limited time to play: I can't fly all the time and I don't have time to wait for a month-long item(s) to sell. Needless to say, I don't have time ti deal with traders either. I'm on Arkadia now, and the market is VERY, VERY slow. I don't have ton of PED flow, so most of my stacks go straight in the TT 😱.
Same argument goes the other way. I want to convert some Maps into keys; I can't buy low MU materials because there are none on the auction. Add my limited time problem, and all I can do is to go try to loot the stuff myself (which I would be more than happy to pay some low MU and go about my business.

As for the auction fee for not sold items/materials, I think scraping it would also help in the grand scheme of things. Just my opinion.
 
Universal auction will create two big losers.

1) people who paid for warp-capable ships
2) people who paid for shops and shopkeeper pads.

I think if you limited it to only residues and nanocubes it would be relatively safe. it wouldn't break the game or create any perverse incentives
 
Unpopular opinion and despite being pirated twice this year I think space is a necessary evil.

It creates the warp economy, which I like overall, especially the big shared warps, really cool experience that doesnt ever get old, travelling across planets on a massive ship full of strangers all in their Sunday bests.

Space and PP AUs creates a lot of value due to scarcity and supply chain complexity for pp loots. By opening up a global AU you'd seriously wreck a lot of existing opportunities for the low-med player base.
 
Hego Damask said:
No fee for unsold items, AH will be full of 1 common dung (or whatever worthless junk you can imagine) for 1k-10k-100k sb scams.
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Yeah, if anything they need to increase or rebalance the fee based on buyout instead of start bid so at least the scammers currently active have to pay more for their scam attempts. Would really help keep these garbage cans from flooding the top buyout listings to give their auction more traffic while hoping someone accidentally dumps their ped card for some useless item like common qr1 bps.
 
AckerZ said:
Unpopular opinion and despite being pirated twice this year I think space is a necessary evil.

It creates the warp economy, which I like overall, especially the big shared warps, really cool experience that doesnt ever get old, travelling across planets on a massive ship full of strangers all in their Sunday bests.

Space and PP AUs creates a lot of value due to scarcity and supply chain complexity for pp loots. By opening up a global AU you'd seriously wreck a lot of existing opportunities for the low-med player base.
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In RCE every change you make will create winners and losers. It can't be avoided in most cases. The better question becomes "will this change do more good for more people, and/or does this break some kind of guarantee or promise to those who are losing?"
 
mihaimnb said:
Considering that some people have warps that doesn't sound so great tbh
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Well some people used to do clothes coloring hair styles and makeup service they got erased over the years. Some people did Fap service such as myself then they got squashed by L chips and life steating which got rid of the healer market ( some people still do it but it's not what it used to be.) Some kept calypso land deeds but they got split to devalue do you think that the warp service will keep going ? If we saw anything over the years that would be that once MA makes it's mind doing something it will be mentioned or not mentioned and it dosent matter if the playerbase agrees with it or not : We are not a a democracy :)
 
DRAGUNOV44 said:
Well some people used to do clothes coloring hair styles and makeup service they got erased over the years. Some people did Fap service such as myself then they got squashed by L chips and life steating which got rid of the healer market ( some people still do it but it's not what it used to be.) Some kept calypso land deeds but they got split to devalue do you think that the warp service will keep going ? If we saw anything over the years that would be that once MA makes it's mind doing something it will be mentioned or not mentioned and it dosent matter if the playerbase agrees with it or not : We are not a a democracy :)
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You are making a not so fitting comparission, it just won't happen, warps will be there forever.
 
mihaimnb said:
You are making a not so fitting comparission, it just won't happen, warps will be there forever.
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Warps have associated costs :) What would happen if MA descide to increase the costs to the point half of the people who own ships would wonder if its worth it ? Or the population of Entropia drops ?
 
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