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Hakko

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This is the first of my statistical survey's about EU economy. I hope I'll not bancrupt before I can post such survey's about most major professions in EU.

You can call me noob, begginer or I don't even know how - I'm in EU about 2 weeks invested about 110 USD.

1. chapter. Producing Basic Auxiliary Socket (needed: 2 - Oil, 1 - Lysterium ingot).

expenses:
a)463 - Oil; TT value - 9.26 PED; current Auction (AUC) value - 10.81 PED
b)227 - Lysterium ingot; TT value - 6.81 PED; current AUC value - 7.32 PED
c) ~30 - 40 minutes (I will not give any value to the time for now).

Total: 16,07 PED TT value or 1.61 USD; 18.13 PED AUC value or 1.81 USD.

income:
a)443 - Basic Auxiliary Socket; TT value - 6.04 PED; current AUC value - 6.15 PED
b)295 - Metal residue; TT value - 2.95 PED; current AUC value - 3.33 PED
c)38 - Energy Matter residue; TT value - 0.38 PED; current AUC value - 0.39 PED
d) skills (wich I cannot evaluate in PED's for now)
e) blueprint Quality Rating (QR) from 1 till 20.8; TT value - 0.21 PED; there is no precise AUC value for diferent QR blueprints.

Total: 9.37 PED TT value or 0.94 USD; 9.87 PED AUC value or 0.99 USD.

conclusion:
a) MA got 18.13 - 9.87 = 8.26 PED or 0.83 USD or ~46%.
b) I got virtual skills and upgrades - about what I am not sure if they are worth of that.
c) Spent ~2 hours on doing that and making this survey. :D

comparison:
a)Casinos take ~35%
b)Gambling machines take ~8 - 15 %
 
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MA didn't get your loot, other crafters and players did or will do. Also, your blueprints and skills are only valueable when other players buy them, so you only got a few pecs back, ontop of your loot.

Good luck!
 
mrproper said:
MA didn't get your loot, other crafters and players did or will do. Also, your blueprints and skills are only valueable when other players buy them, so you only got a few pecs back, ontop of your loot.

Good luck!
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I think that other players and crafters also get losses, at least newcomers. :D
 
Hakko said:
I think that other players and crafters also get losses, at least newcomers. :D
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Of course, but some day, one of those you mentioned will get a big fat uber loot :D to even things out.
 
mrproper said:
Of course, but some day, one of those you mentioned will get a big fat uber loot :D to even things out.
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So as I understand you are saying that EU is lottery and it could be profitable?
Because only profit I can see for now is reselling or selling everything to the noobs who don't know the right value of things or to the mega rich avatars which can overpay large sums for things they like.
 
Good work. Its very positive to start taking notes and paying attention to the stats from the begining :)

The only thing is that the sample you took is too small to learn much from it, the variance in loot from activities is very big and you need much bigger samples.
Try doing tests of over 500 or 1k clicks, it will lower the risk of loosing alot too.

If you want to see some stats I collected while crafting:
Crafting Data
 
My first piece of advice to anyone in EU is: Take your eyes off your PED card and just enjoy this Universe, there are some nice sights to see, some nice people to meet. Money has less to do with fun than you think.

This is coming from a guy who's been here for 4 years 4 months, never taken a break, and only deposited $70 altogether, and most importantly, HAS FUN! :)

Enjoy EU.
 
MA got a few bucks at most, other players got the rest.

Crafting is a loss until you reach the point where you can sell your products for markup. For example, if you kept making those sockets until you unlocked Blueprint Comprehension and skilled a k or two in it, then started making OA101s for some time until you had good attachment crafting skills and then bought an unlimited OA104 blueprint with decent QR, started clicking it on quantity and maxed the made amps with residue, you would be at the point of making 100s of ped per day.

If you took mining for your survey, there is a pretty good chance you would end up in black numbers. Or maybe take up hunting? Slower loss and much more fun.

Profit in EU is possible, but not without a significant cash/time/both investment.
 
Well put ncvK,
Most important thing is to have fun.
Too bad most people (not perse you Hakko) look @ the desciption of the game (before they download it) and think "Hey money to be made!" well its not all that simple and certainly not the main focus of Entropia Universe.
Participating in this universe takes time, investment and a good will.
Maybe someday you will get rewarded for your efforts.

But No. 1 thing is to have fun!
We all do :yay: :)

good luck on your survey's and i'd like to read more.

Regards,

Micheva Rhizosis Sacramento
 
Micheva said:
Well put ncvK,
Most important thing is to have fun.
Too bad most people (not perse you Hakko) look @ the desciption of the game (before they download it) and think "Hey money to be made!" well its not all that simple and certainly not the main focus of Entropia Universe.
Participating in this universe takes time, investment and a good will.
Maybe someday you will get rewarded for your efforts.

But No. 1 thing is to have fun!
We all do :yay: :)

good luck on your survey's and i'd like to read more.

Regards,

Micheva Rhizosis Sacramento
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No! You are not right - I'm here to earn money, of course I understand that nobody will throw it on me, but suposed that economy will be more realistic. You can have fun in other games - which are suposed as games (I think this is not a game but a virtual world), of course you can have fun also here, but it's expenssive.
Any way - I'm going hunting and hope will make next survey this evening.
 
Hakko said:
No! You are not right - I'm here to earn money, of course I understand that nobody will throw it on me, but suposed that economy will be more realistic. You can have fun in other games - which are suposed as games (I think this is not a game but a virtual world), of course you can have fun also here, but it's expenssive.
Any way - I'm going hunting and hope will make next survey this evening.
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if you are in here to earn sonny boy I am sorry to say you are doing the wrong thing ;)
If you want to earn you have to invest well that is the way to make the most.
you can do a few different things; you can invest in items which you belive will go up in value I am talking about really good things here and we are talking about alot of IRL money.
When I started a mod fap was 35000 ped, now it is around 270000 ped.. so you get the picture ?
another way of earning is to buy things at a low % and sell it at market value.. yes it is posible to find some good deals from people in a hurry to sell. when you then have made some money doing this you buy more expensive stuff to get a higher earning.
Someone in here made a trade guide for newcommers you might want to take a look at.
All I have to say is that doing the first (investing is super good gear playing the game and then when you are ready to stop playing is a good way to go) noone is really super excited about the traders/resellers but yes they do infact make alot of money.

Hope it helped you in your quest. But in the end I hope even more you find the true passion for this game and will enjoy playing and maybe even losing a bit here and there :)

Regards Nakia
 
Its really up to you how much it will cost to play EU.
 
To Nakia!

These are just survey's about hard life in EU! I know what are my possibility's earning money here and still exploring other's. :)
 
Hakko said:
To Nakia!

These are just survey's about hard life in EU! I know what are my possibility's earning money here and still exploring other's. :)
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okay :)....

to short :silly2:
 
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