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Jhereg

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I haven't ever had a problem with any of my credit cards..
 

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If MA is so suspect by the banking industry, I see no other option than find something else to do with my money.
So only issues are with USA customers, yet its MA that is the suspect here?
Sounds like banking practices in the USA are corrupt...maybe move to Canada, we don't have issues using CC to deposit in entropia.
 

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Deposited a couple days ago. First attempt my bank rejected the transaction, sent me a text to verify the activity on my card. After that the second attempt went through. Had to pay a 3% "international transaction fee", which sucks. I did not have to pay this fee with PayPal.
 

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I did not have to pay this fee with PayPal.
Yes you did, they're just hiding it. If a currency exchange is involved you get a worse rate than with common cards. Even if not and MA holds the account in USD, Paypal also charges the receiver a fee which gets deducted from the PEDs you will get.
 

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If anyone in the US is having luck with prepaid cards, which ones are you using?
 

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If anyone in the US is having luck with prepaid cards, which ones are you using?
Canadian/USA VISA and Mastercard preloaded Gift Cards. These card may also available in some other countries.

These are credit cards you buy in stores in Canada and the US that can be used as regular credit cards. They are preloaded with a set amount of funds and cannot be reloaded. They come in amounts of 25,50,100 and 200. You pay a fee at the till when buying these, ranging from 3.95-8.95.

**NOTE** The VISA preloaded cards will "not" work for an international Entropia Universe deposit. VISA do have re-loadable credit card, that also will "not" work for an international EU deposit.

***MasterCard preloaded Gift Cards "will" work for an Entropia Universe deposit, but there are several issues to consider when using them.

1.Credit Cards can make a first deposit, but then need to be verified. So a MasterCard gift card is a one time use only deposit for EU. A new gift card would needed to be used to make another deposit.

2.The exchange rate needs to be calculate by the Canadian customer so he can max out the card in one deposit, because there will be a fee that comes after, an international deposit fee, debited against the gift card, between 2.00-3.00 you will want to avoid paying most of that.

The way to do this is search internet for current Canadian-US exchange rate, then make a first try at depositing. You actually want the first try to fail so you know you are above the cards limit. Then retry deposits for 1.00 US less until the deposit is a success. In this way the customer maxes out the gift card in one deposit, (as it cannot be used a second time to deposit into EU), and avoids most of the international deposit fee charged by MasterCard, which will be debited to the card later and zero out the last less than 1.00 remaining on the card.

As you may realize I have used gift cards before :)
 
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Fiona Simmons

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Mindark should set up a bank account in the usa and handle deposits and withdrawels from there for usa customers
 

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Mindark should set up a bank account in the usa and handle deposits and withdrawels from there for usa customers
remember the big draw to cryptocurrency ... decentralization. also, it's not untraceable. so any abuse or improper usage is not anonymous - at least for BTC.

i believe Monero is quite the opposite.
 

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In Germany we can use "Paysafe Cards" (for US: https://www.paysafecard.com/en-us/buy/), they can be bought online. Think that could be a good way for US Participants, In case that they can´t or want use Credit cards.

Does MA still accept the Paysafe cards? There is two stores with 30 minute drive near me I can buy them but don't want to get suck with cards I can't use.
 

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Yes you did, they're just hiding it. If a currency exchange is involved you get a worse rate than with common cards. Even if not and MA holds the account in USD, Paypal also charges the receiver a fee which gets deducted from the PEDs you will get.
I used to pay $x for x strongbox keys, nothing more.
 

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I used to pay $x for x strongbox keys, nothing more.
Maybe Strongboxes are the reason for the problem with paypal?

Just wondering.
 

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Deposited a couple days ago. First attempt my bank rejected the transaction, sent me a text to verify the activity on my card. After that the second attempt went through. Had to pay a 3% "international transaction fee", which sucks. I did not have to pay this fee with PayPal.
Citibank Costco CC doesn't charge a foreign transaction fee in case that is an option
 

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I used to pay $x for x strongbox keys, nothing more.
That's because MA works in USD. PayPal seems to only charge a fee when you convert currencies.
 

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I know two crypto exchange operators who would take risk and make their staff stay logged in 24/7 and/or their p2p area users, to do private PED<->crypto exchanges.
But only if MA guaranteed that they would not ban them for that.
 

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Does MA still accept the Paysafe cards? There is two stores with 30 minute drive near me I can buy them but don't want to get suck with cards I can't use.
yes they do.... Checked it out, a few minutes ago :wise:
 

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So far, I've tried 8 different cards and ALL "failed to validate". Upon further research, the CC data was stopped by DIBS, MA's CC processing company. It has nothing to do with a bank or Credit Union, it's in Sweden that it's fubar.

Like MA, no one's there on the weekend, so I guess it's off to the Indian casino, instead of this one.
 

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the same thing happens to me, it can no longer be deposited with mastercard and maestro.
 

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tried all my options for depo, no go. may be time to exit for me......
 

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It does not look like you can use paysafe to buy keys. I went to the closest location for paysafe yesterday. The cashier didn't know what I was talking about and told me to come back during the week when the manager was there.

From what I gather, this is how it works.

Drive to the bank and take money out with the ATM
Drive to the location for Paysafe
Give cash and get a receipt with a code.
Drive home
Enter code into website.

I have my groceries delivered because I don't want to leave the house and deal with traffic and crowds. If I have o do this several times per month like I used to use paypal and never even get off the couch.

The good news is that I can use one of my credit cards. As long as I call the credit card before using it for deposit it will work. But.. I don't want to do that. I used paypal because it was like using cash. I don't was to use credit.
 

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Investigating this way to deposit myself...

It does not look like you can use paysafe to buy keys.
No, current payment options is by Visa/Mastercard only it seems for any kind of webshop purchase. Paysafecard is only avaliable for deposits from what I can understand. In my case I can´t buy neither strongboxes nor keys as it is not available in my country anyways...

I went to the closest location for paysafe yesterday. The cashier didn't know what I was talking about and told me to come back during the week when the manager was there.
that was unfortunate :/


From what I gather, this is how it works.

Drive to the bank and take money out with the ATM
Drive to the location for Paysafe
Give cash and get a receipt with a code.
Drive home
Enter code into website.
Seems about right, you put in the amount you want to deposit say 10 EUR and you get redirected to paysafecard to put in your code and Mindark charges 1 EUR for this process?

might try this when I run out of ingame funds or curiousity just takes over, just to get a confirmation of how the procedure works...
 

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i found out today that paypal also offers a prepaid mastercard for $4.95 per month:

https://www.paypal-prepaid.com/

though, there are other prepaid creditcards, which only charge a fixed fee of like 2.5€ for every charge up to 200€ (1.25% fee).

anyways, i surely would like to see more depositing options, and especially the same options both in the webshop and on the account website. c'mon mindark, it's about time to move your lazy butts before the year is over!
 

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Seems about right, you put in the amount you want to deposit say 10 EUR and you get redirected to paysafecard to put in your code and Mindark charges 1 EUR for this process?

might try this when I run out of ingame funds or curiousity just takes over, just to get a confirmation of how the procedure works...
Don’t do it , MA charges 10% of the input with paysafecard. At 100 Euro you will lose 10 euro.
You can also buy paysafecard codes online. But there is also a tax , 2,5 euro per every transaction if I remember, and after that the bank will charge you also for the transaction. I did it and I dont recomand it.
 

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https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/banking/wire-transfers-what-banks-charge/

Just checked with my own bank and they charge 40 bucks for transfers in to the bank... so ouch. Add that to Mindark's 70 bucks per try if it doesn't go through and double ouch.

I think if I can sell out completely, it's time to do so... Got a shop so will be throwing things in there til enough stuff sells that I can sell the shop itself. If anyone is looking to buy all I got in one go, give me a private message and we'll talk. (need to get cash out since we've run in to some unexpected car repairs irl recnetly)
 
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Don’t do it , MA charges 10% of the input with paysafecard. At 100 Euro you will lose 10 euro.
You can also buy paysafecard codes online. But there is also a tax , 2,5 euro per every transaction if I remember, and after that the bank will charge you also for the transaction. I did it and I dont recomand it.
MA does not charge these fees. Paysafecard does and everybody else who got their sticky fingers in the trade. Same with every other transfer method. MA can only credit the funds they receive at the end.
 

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Just talked to one of my main credit cards. They told me that EU has a massive "red flag" on it for complaints of "financial irregularities".

After 30 minutes of the card services demanding everything (including a pic of my Passport), I got pissed of and ordered them to cancel my account.

I'm not buying a gawdam house or a car on my card - I just want to play a fricken game.

If MA doesn't figure this deposit/withdraw problem SOON, they're gonna lose a crap load of players.
 

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Just talked to one of my main credit cards. They told me that EU has a massive "red flag" on it for complaints of "financial irregularities".

After 30 minutes of the card services demanding everything (including a pic of my Passport), I got pissed of and ordered them to cancel my account.

I'm not buying a gawdam house or a car on my card - I just want to play a fricken game.

If MA doesn't figure this deposit/withdraw problem SOON, they're gonna lose a crap load of players.
How is the weather in North Korea?
 

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MA needs to allow us to buy shit from the web shop with PED, that way people can deposit with bank transfers/etc
 

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MA needs to allow us to buy shit from the web shop with PED, that way people can deposit with bank transfers/etc
That's a good idea
 
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