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Just fyi since some newbies might have missed this in the last update. Go get your free rifle from the Bukin guy at Camp Icarus, it's a very decent weapon for starters.

Bukin's Spare Rifle

3-6 damage, 44 attacks/min and 57.2m range.

It is bound to your account but it's free so go get it even if you have another rifle, you never know when it will come handy. Now some comparisons:

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	RIFLE			Omegaton A101			ZX Sinkadus				O2's Comment
Bukin's Spare Rifle		4.59 dps @ 2.980 eco		4.08 dps @ 2.959 eco 	(Best rifle skiller without the gold pack)
Sollomate Opalo			5.61 dps @ 2.861 eco		5.10 dps @ 2.834 eco 	(Bad eco has made this rifle obsolete)
Z12 Barbarella			6.67 dps @ 2.955 eco		6.12 dps @ 2.938 eco 	(Best ul rifle for starters)
Omegaton M2100A1 (L)			DO NOT USE		5.68 dps @ 2.981 eco 	(Good dps and eco combo)
Sollomate Onyxo (L)		5.10 dps @ 2.968 eco		4.59 dps @ 2.948 eco 	(I would use the Bukin Rifle)
Ozpyn Chon			6.98 dps @ 2.974 eco 		6.21 dps @ 2.953 eco 	(Requires level 5, the M2100A1 is better)
Ozpyn LR S1X1			7.09 dps @ 2.924 eco		6.50 dps @ 2.905 eco 	(Requires level 5, the barbarella is better)
DPS = Damage per second (dmg/sec), higher is better.
ECO = Damage per pec (dmg/pec), higher is better. It includes ammo burn and weapon decay.

As you can see the Opalo sucks compared to the rest. The barbarella and M2100A1 combo is awesome, but if you can't purchase the Gold Pack just get the Bukin rifle and tag with it.

Also, choose the right mob for the right weapon. At higher levels it's not a big concern but at your leve it's very important. With weapons in the range of 4-7 dps I wouldn't kille anything bigger than small kerberos (young-mature). Berycleds and foul are cool too.

Bookmark entropiawiki.com and also the Weapon Compare.

== Dramatization ==
"But but O2 my mentor told me to use the Opalo." - Random newbie

Kick him. Seriously. Get someone who can keep up with the current state of the game.
== End of dramatization, haha ==

Good luck, have fun .

This post is brought to you by: Rookie channel frustration, Shitty Advice Mentor <tm>, The "Save the opollo" movement.
 
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as I'm always interested, I much appreciated such info! I can share with my newbie friends too
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nicely done, and shows the opollo up for what is.

i do wonder why MA always push Laser and mainly Rifle too, will cause an unbalance in MU prices, altho a Knife was a little bit of a big jump in for new players who think the Durability stat is vital, it gave hp skills and another direction to go
 

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+ rep. Very helpful and cuts a lot of the bullshit new players are being given to persuade them to buy an opalo.
 
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Angel helping the community as always! Thanks :wise:

I'm still learning about you! :girl: +1rep
 

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Nice job. I still won't ditch my opalo, even if I don't use it much anymore. It was my first gun and I've become attached to it. :laugh:

But yeah, the new newbie guns have greater eco than the Opalo
 

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Hmm that Spare Rifle sure would compliment my TT pistol ;).

Thanks for the thread posting O2!
 

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It's also worth noting that Bukin's Spare Rifle have better range than other newbie rifles. I used to keep my Opalo in inventory because of it's range, but now Bukin's Spare Rifle took it's place. Also, the Bukin's Spare Rifle comes with 5TT value that will last a few shots, so even if you don't plan on using it, you can shoot a bunch of times paying only for (economical) ammo consumption.

Overall a very nice change compared to Bukin's Knife (which you got to keep anyway, if you got it earlier :p)
 

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Whooot? Is CB5 outdated to?
 

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Can´t give another + REP, have to spread some love first.

Good info for new players
 

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Excellent

:thumbup: Truly excellent opening post. Thanks. :thumbup:

Two notes from My Opinion <tm>:
1) Finishers are important especially on low HP targets. My favorite finishers mostly drop from punys/cubs/juveniles/etc (a mob class), but when I don't have one of those, I prefer to use M2100A1 (L) (or your planet's equivalent TT pistol) with no amplifier on it (have not actually made certain that it's the #1 best for the job, but I like it). The big thing is to use a weapon which deals very little damage per shot, reasonably efficiently, without paying any more %markup than you can avoid. My #1 favorite finisher is Sollomate Azuro (L) because it hits slightly less than similar guns, and also it has enough range to double as a tagger when I need one in a low level spawn.
2) In my view, kerberos and mature+ berycleds are too big a bite for a newbie to chew. Don't know about fouls - they hit a bit hard but their HP and regen are both low. Instead, I recommend daikiba/shinkiba as a happy Calypsian medium (and snables and sabakumas, both of which are even easier), mixed with or alternating with some under-Young (aka Puny etc) maturities of whatever. I do tend to urge newbies to try out exarosaur, caudatergus, even (if in a team -- they regen) combibo, because those and daikiba are the mobs I cut my teeth on when I began play and I love them, but I understand when new players decide they're too much too soon. The variability in comfort zones of individual players leads me to most often recommend "Kill whatever you can kill before it kills you, and avoid healing during combat".

Thanks for the really good post. :beerchug:
 

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What you guys think is better? Using the Omegaton M2100A1 (L) from TT or Sollomate Rubio (L) and Sollomate Azuro (L) for very low level Berycled, Tripudion and Caudatergus Punys? Buying Sollomate Rubio (L) and Sollomate Azuro (L) with Markup or better using Omegaton M2100A1 (L)?
 

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Best starter weapon:

Assault rifle (FA) L (freebie if you choose soldier at hunt the thing) 0.8 dmg/sec , 2.831 eco

BUT... it can spray from left to right, hitting 5 targets for 1 dmg at once. It normally does 2 dmg max, so 5 dmg is 2,5 x

0.8 x2.5 dps =2 dps, 2.831 x2.5 = 7.07 eco

you can buy them for 14 pec At hunt the thing tt.. needs special ammo though.

Second best starter weapon:

Salafa beginner [L] (freebie at toulan)/B101 [L]

2.5 dps, 3.11 eco

Best beginner weapon:

Salafa G3 [L]/A101 6.4 dps, 2.998 eco
 
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Angel said:
== Dramatization ==
"But but O2 my mentor told me to use the Opalo." - Random newbie

Kick him. Seriously. Get someone who can keep up with the current state of the game.
== End of dramatization, haha ==
Agree 100% - if someone recomend opallo -- kick as fast as possible
 

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Curses...

Time to change my killshot weapon. :scratch2:
 

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Best starter weapon:

Assault rifle (FA) L (freebie if you choose soldier at hunt the thing) 0.8 dmg/sec , 2.831 eco

BUT... it can spray from left to right, hitting 5 targets for 1 dmg at once. It normally does 2 dmg max, so 5 dmg is 2,5 x

0.8 x2.5 dps =2 dps, 2.831 x2.5 = 7.07 eco

you can buy them for 14 pec At hunt the thing tt.. needs special ammo though.

Second best starter weapon:

Salafa beginner [L] (freebie at toulan)/B101 [L]

2.5 dps, 3.11 eco

Best beginner weapon:

Salafa G3 [L]/A101 6.4 dps, 2.998 eco
And this Weapons also work on Calipso and other Planets?
 

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And this Weapons also work on Calipso and other Planets?
Yes I did a big chunk of the calypso puny mission with the assaul rifle. I actually bought a whole bunch of them. You will also need to buy the special ammo at the tt there. You cannot get it at other planets.
 

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Great thread, +rep as usual. Since this post is a little dated, can we update the original post to include eco with a b101(L) amp since a101 prices have sky rocketed to over +200 ped markup? Also, maybe adding a section with these values including an imp ares to show how good these rings are for their new low price nowadays.

Thanks!
 

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Yes I can do that, thanks for the advice.
 
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