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Mining Bots = Game Killer

DannyGo Danny BadukWeiqi said:
What is a game killer is how rude people in this game are these days. Want to mind my own business and people spam are you "bot are you bot?" Seriously find an interactive question.
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Did you stand still when a green dot popped up on your radar?

Personally if you want to see a reaction from a miner if he's human or not start dropping in front them on their path see if they change direction. Most will instantly respond if human operated.

If they stand still equally suspicious that requires more research. Never seen the point directly contracting people.
 
I was mining on twitch at the time. If you want to come chat some time you can watch me mine on stream. Anyone I'll just keep blocking people as I find them in game.
 
Same mining bots back again but on calypso instead of arkadia (same avatars even) showing its acceptable. Luckily it was on amethera which was PVP so didnt even have to waste a creature pill to kill it this time but we shouldnt have to do MAs job. Was looking for "E" but ended up finding "A" instead. "A" sold the lvl 7 UL amp so the pressure put on them thru this post got them to sell it and go underground for a while altho "C" has been going strong the whole time. I'm sure MA puting same ores in space had a lot to do with "A" selling the amp too, but I'd like to think our shining a spotlight on it helped.

So FFS Mindark do something about it, people are leaving in droves from there being no Markup on normal loots. This isn't a simple hunt Macro on unprofitable skilling mobs, it is (or should say was) an instantly profitable profession right after downloading the game that requires active play hence why there is markup. It got me to put rediculous $$ on this game and many others the same from seeing the potential immediately. It shows the high returns you'd get if looter/eff is maxed for hunting. It gets people with low trust early on to still get hooked from swirls/MU with low or 0 startup cost rather than boring sweating. Stop letting your own game be destroyed by probably 1 guy who never deposits and only withdraws.
 
Killed "E" today. Same server different spot. This is just getting sickening everyday all day nonstop taking money out of my pocket, your pocket, any real players pocket even non miners + MA since it is also preventing many players from staying on this game.

Can we get some assistance please with at least the known well established mine bots? They sell the ped outside of game for cheaper than the USD its worth so you aren't even getting the fees from withdrawals. NO upside for MA just terrible player retention.

@Socrates|Mindark
@Ludvig|MindArk
@Nanashana
 
Hard to stay engaged with Entropia already due to very little enticing mu all across the board. MA doesn't seem to want to address these problems and continue to allow said individuals to keep running rampant with their bots. Why should everyone suffer because of a few people can't follow ToS. MA I think it's time to really start considering enforcing your own Terms...
 
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James Jimbo Linehan said:
Killed "E" today. Same server different spot. This is just getting sickening everyday all day nonstop taking money out of my pocket, your pocket, any real players pocket even non miners + MA since it is also preventing many players from staying on this game.

Can we get some assistance please with at least the known well established mine bots? They sell the ped outside of game for cheaper than the USD its worth so you aren't even getting the fees from withdrawals. NO upside for MA just terrible player retention.

@Socrates|Mindark
@Ludvig|MindArk
@Nanashana
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Can you give more details on EU Discord perhaps? So they can be added to more kos lists until MA wakes up
 
The only thing that MA will probably do is refuse this bots withdrawals when the time comes. Which is very profitable for Mindark because these bot players are pulling money from others avatars (read it as MU sold) and then getting the withdrawal refused. So on my view this bots are a win win for Mindark. Bots remove money from others avatars and then MA wont pay them.

I have once reported one of those on Arkadia desert when Frakite was very high MU, just to one year later find the same avatar doing the same thing.

Old players are tired on this bullsh*t and new players have no idea what is going on. That's the strategy that Mindark uses, to trick the players until they got enough and then hoping that new players will join the game so they can repeat the cycle.
 
It's absurd that Mindark doesn't act on this. Confiscate the entire account on first infraction. Simple. (If you only give them a slap on the wrist (1 week or even a few months suspension is a joke, that's a vacation from their scamming-the-players-job), and they'll just make it harder for Mindark to find or proove the next time. (Suggestion: "report a cheater (with relevant elements/proof), get rewards".)) The only reason not to act, is that someone at Mindark is in on it. Seen it a thousand times.

P.S. Feel free to send me all the info you got on the cheaters (including the proof).
 
I play on a Private WoW Server that bans bots constantly. They make it a point to announce these bans in Global chat.

I don't know if they are gold or honor farming, but they are banned weekly. It can't be that difficult to confirm that an account is using a bot.

The bottom line is: MA is making money from these bots and does not care.

"You are either coaching it, or allowing it to happen," - Bill Belichick
 

They don't understand the effect on the economy and what that means for long term withdrawals and deposits. They have the same surface level thinking a lot of players do where they think PED turnover is the metric to look at. At the end of the day, if you profit after markup, then someone else is the one who paid for your turnover. Also, different profit players aren't equal for their impact on the game. The high turnover profit players who generate and sell significantly more resources than they buy are the worst for the economy because they simultaneously reduce markup and incentive for other players while ultimately having little to no actual contribution to the profit of MA (Again, if you withdraw more than you deposit, then someone else paid your turnover loss.) Mining botters are one of the worst examples of a net negative to the game because they simultaneously take limited resources from the pool that other players would get, have the advantage of not caring about time, so they almost never contribute to the markup economy at all because they will use tiny UL or no amps to maximize markup gain and pay no markup to anyone, and they flood resources reducing price for everyone. The cherry on top is that since a lot of them use no amps, they specifically take the low bucket resources that can only be found with hits ~2 ped and below that would normally be distributed and gotten by new players. So they hurt the extremely important population of new players more.​

 
Is it more important to be right about something when many are wrong, or not to be wrong when many are right?
(Ok, question phrased as 'more important' could be close to 50:50, so not automatically a question that needs answering, but it MIGHT be ...)

Opinions, opinions...

How many people agree that MA gets income, and thus ultimately profit, from turnovers in game?
Do we accept this, but note that the rake is not equal due to various factors?
Can we accept that although bots actually DO generate revenue for MA, that harm is being done overall to the game?

Do we feel that if the bots stopped/ were stopped in some way, MA would make less rake the following week/month/?, regardless of what mu and personal profit/loss the bot had been on?
How long would it take for the rake loss from a highly active but skilled bot to be compensated for and overpassed by lower but increasing turnovers by a higher number of players now attracted to an activity (and sticking with EU instead of leaving, and maybe even recommending EU to others)?

Would it be like a car/lorry/truck going up a hill that needs to change down a gear or more? There is a period during the change when the vehicle slows even more, but ultimately the new gear is better suited to overcoming the rest of the hill, and may even be able accelerate the vehicle to some degree once more...
 
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Well done brother I hope these bots gets punished cuz u can't afk mine not using a bot what I know. Since mining is different from hunting where u can't click to loot, u got to re equip to extract and then re equip again, which only a bot can do. unless the player plays from another computer, but then another IP adress should be shown for ma so they would know for sure if the guy is botting. But what I know is that MA doesn't care not even for that.
 
Jaro0 said:
But what I know is that MA doesn't care not even for that.
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They didn't before but people keep saying that MA is turning over a new leaf/ going in a better direction finally/ caring about what players care about etc. with adding vote tabs. So let's see if this is true and put it to the test...

Please help yourselves, your bottom line, and the players

@Nanashana
@Socrates|Mindark
@Ludvig|MindArk

Ban the main confirmed 3 known to all big miners and the rest will follow suit + real people waiting on the sidelines can return to take their place and then some, since crafted amps will be needed again. The chain of events will act like the gamestop short squeeze but to boosting the games economy/revenue instead.
 
The bots are indeed ruining so many parts of the game. From the mining bots you describe, to full on hunting bots, and cheaters with aim bots in PvP. It's not just the economy they are ruining, but they are sapping the fun and enjoyment out of the game also.

I get the point above that they are cycling so why would ma do something about it. I think there is a huge difference between someone cycling whilst at the pc with their keyboard pressing F ( ie a typical macro), than these full on bots who need no, or very little input from the user. Most games have some form of anticheat, I dont see why we cant have it here.

I know so many big players who are now not cycling or not contributing in anyway, as the bots are out of hand.

I also agree with the freezing of their accounts, and naming them. It could be as simple as a post gets made . " As of 20th January 2026, anyone found to be using a programme which automates parts of the game which were not intended, ie mining bots, hunting bots and pvp bots, will have their account terminated and publicly named.

That way they have fair warning and cant say well x did it for years why punish me, and it might just be enough for those with high value accounts to start to behave themselves.


Also, if anyone needs the discord mentioned about, here is the link https://discord.gg/wjBh75B
 
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Alainax said:
The bots are indeed ruining so many parts of the game. From the mining bots you describe, to full on hunting bots, and cheaters with aim bots in PvP. It's not just the economy they are ruining, but they are sapping the fun and enjoyment out of the game also.

I get the point above that they are cycling so why would ma do something about it. I think there is a huge difference between someone cycling whilst at the pc with their keyboard pressing F ( ie a typical macro), than these full on bots who need no, or very little input from the user. Most games have some form of anticheat, I dont see why we cant have it here.

I know so many big players who are now not cycling or not contributing in anyway, as the bots are out of hand.

I also agree with the freezing of their accounts, and naming the. It could be as simple as a post gets made . " As of 20th January 2026, anyone found to be using a programme which automates parts of the game which were not intended, ie mining bots, hunting bots and pvp bots, will have their account terminated and publicly named.

That way they have fair warning and cant say well x did it for years why punish me, and it might just be enough for those with high value accounts to start to behave themselves.
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Yesss n ty for the showing support here too you and everyone else.. first time I had made the post originally there was people coming out of the woodwork messaging me in game or posting on here on where the bots are currently 2 kill them, what's best way to get MA to see the damage they are doing to the game, just sick over them just wrecking the game we all love playing. Now the ones who didn't quit (this being 1 of the reasons some did but also among other reasons too) dont even bother wasting their time now and just stop playing or accept game is going to crap and let it die and go down with the ship minimalizing play time/$. So before I give up on it as well and stop wasting my own time I figured its worth trying 1 more time to get mindark to come to the light with the "good direction they are going in now" and understand the true damage this is costing their shareholders/players before I'm too burnt out myself and stop caring about bringing potential back to the game.
 
:bowdown::bowdown:...Bow to the OG..

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Yes please end the bots. I've been asking for years! It hurts everyone.

We know these bots hurt mu but think about simple missions. Kill x number of mobs to get special award. MA creates this mission thinking someone will finish in weeks, months? Boom, some 24/7 bot finishes in hours or days. Next mission has to be 100x mobs for same reward right? Now the 1-2 hour per day player has no shot.
 
I think MA should ban any avatar caught using third party software, its a RCE and having markup going to people not even at the pc kind of deters active play to any degree. Whether its the afk hunting, mining bots, cheating in pvp, these things should all warrant a ban, make an example of those caught using these things, most games have some kind of anti cheat, crazy that a RCE game does not..

Time to stop being so lazy MA and do something
 
Arc Raiders, developed by Embark Studios, won Best Multiplayer Game at The Game Awards 2025, just announced this:

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And they are doign a lot more:

In EU, bots understood they have MA's back, when bans have been started to go out for bots abductors and ever since, public botting went on a rampage, bots even getting irritated if you wanted to hunt in the same area before they could park their bot overnight in a public spawn... but it's OK, have no fear, they will look into the occurrence and situation in question.
 
Since last time I asked it was removed due to me replying to a deleted post, I ask again; where do these mining bots tend to roam @James Jimbo Linehan? In case someone wants some target practice
 
UnaAlconbury said:
Since last time I asked it was removed due to me replying to a deleted post, I ask again; where do these mining bots tend to roam @James Jimbo Linehan? In case someone wants some target practice
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Yes would be nice to know. Might make this my daily mission. Not much different from killing the ones at lg anyway.


Speaking of which @James Jimbo Linehan arent you in AO or am I mistaken?
 
are we sure those are not players that dont care to interact and mind their own business?
running straight and dropping every reload is just a 50 grams weignt on E key...
then there is 2 hours to pull with larger deposits
 
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