FYI: Minning is broken or extreme heavly cap

[Vadio]

As everyone notice that you have weeeks and weeks out with heavy cap with TT 90% and avg mu also low

Its not exact good to you mindark , and you probably notice that bleed
So my suggest its you follow zho table

Spoiler: zho table

Also stop be bad company and show us finder and amp effy like you did with hunter i know exist
I know mu in overall going suffer , but its not way around otherwise you going keep bleed more players

Set to extreme low cycle , in this world economy if you demand 1 billion spin not going work out , 10k peds cycle to hit average is ok? to most?
And since alot people are in loss , like me and fews others make sure you give payback ? why? this annoying system you can trow 90k in ground and because you missing that golden day its superb annoying ,. peoples have life.....

Plus end with MU stuffs waves.... let market adjust itself.. without artificial mu create by you

Some dickhead going come here and say cycle more ok i cycle more to you

spend 735983
return 677587
-58 396 tt
tt 92%

its because i hit fews good day , but its alred gone and 1 week in loss
s 15128
r 13007
tt 85%

So mindark? minning looter is broken? its new default? or you just be greed and milk everyone? util everyone quit?

Spoiler: I figure out why

Its a trump tariff? wall == trump? make sense rigth?

 

[The Mind]

Im in a steady drawdown since 09/2023. Similar %tt
If you enjoyed stable returns all the way till now, consider it to be lucky.
Welcome to the "normies club"

 

[Darlas]

Sadly im in the same situation, of course i cant have that kind of cicle but there its a wall at 89-90% TT return that seems imposible to pass, for me its even strange to see a global... and a hof more than very rare (and im talking small hofs). The actual mining status its totally untenable, okey okey its totally normal woth low skills have low returns in hunting for example but mining its not in the 2.0 loot update (in theory) and even higuer skill miners have the same exact problem.

If nothing change more miners will leave, game its falling apart in all proffesions.

 

[Dayzed]

In b4 the simps come say" your never gonna beat the TT you gotta make up the differnce in MU"

 

[Darlas]

In b4 the simps come say" your never gonna beat the TT you gotta make up the differnce in MU"

And its true you wont be getting more than 98% TT overall in this game and its okey you can invest, build your character and beat that.... but mining? You need to get 10-11% overall MU over your cicle to just break even? Unteanable and stupid

 

[James Jimbo Linehan]

I was doing really well TT return wise and MU covered TT loss practically everyday like 29/30 days ... since space update I have been getting killed but was mining More so on caly too which I havn't done in a long time where 29/30 days is a loss and MU doesn't come close to covering. It's probably from less players lately with the give-the-players-a-beating dial is set to max to make up the loss from missing players? either that or a fat tower is coming my way soon hopefully. I don't think there is an invisible looter skill/eff or anything for planet side tho unless they accidentally/on purpose is having space looter also in effect for planet now.

 

[slick27]

As everyone notice that you have weeeks and weeks out with heavy cap with TT 90% and avg mu also low

Its not exact good to you mindark , and you probably notice that bleed
So my suggest its you follow zho table

Spoiler: zho table

Also stop be bad company and show us finder and amp effy like you did with hunter i know exist
I know mu in overall going suffer , but its not way around otherwise you going keep bleed more players

Set to extreme low cycle , in this world economy if you demand 1 billion spin not going work out , 10k peds cycle to hit average is ok? to most?
And since alot people are in loss , like me and fews others make sure you give payback ? why? this annoying system you can trow 90k in ground and because you missing that golden day its superb annoying ,. peoples have life.....

Plus end with MU stuffs waves.... let market adjust itself.. without artificial mu create by you

Some dickhead going come here and say cycle more ok i cycle more to you

spend 735983
return 677587
-58 396 tt
tt 92%

its because i hit fews good day , but its alred gone and 1 week in loss
s 15128
r 13007
tt 85%

So mindark? minning looter is broken? its new default? or you just be greed and milk everyone? util everyone quit?

Spoiler: I figure out why

Its a trump tariff? wall == trump? make sense rigth?

Iv cycled a decent chunk I can tell you, all I got last few months was 800 ped 370 ped and couple 200s that were multipliers.

Pretty much been hammered so I'd say they milked alright.

Weird part is unamped the globals just don't exist like they used to as they are needed to bump you up or sustain smaller bankroll mining. Might just be my avatar heavy cycling system confused or something.

 

[Dayzed]

And its true you wont be getting more than 98% TT overall in this game and its okey you can invest, build your character and beat that.... but mining? You need to get 10-11% overall MU over your cicle to just break even? Unteanable and stupid

Hunting is just as bad. Main reason i wont hunt/mine with anything bigger than TT gear. not worth it.

 

[Vadio]

I know people are kind shy in say but o boy.... (many in fact alred quit) but EL Last time i remind check is around 550-600k value global week
now its just 430k , i remind 5k global in average now is just 3k........

*in prime days before doomsday (29.08.19 to me) is around 750-800k and around 6-7k global

So mindark wake up , take you regular maitenance windows and change settings.cfg(someone did backup rigth?)

 

[True Juan]

I know people are kind shy in say but o boy.... (many in fact alred quit) but EL Last time i remind check is around 550-600k value global week
now its just 430k , i remind 5k global in average now is just 3k........

*in prime days before doomsday (29.08.19 to me) is around 750-800k and around 6-7k global

So mindark wake up , take you regular maitenance windows and change settings.cfg(someone did backup rigth?)

Im pretty sure that at least half of that amount is now in space mining, which I dont think is counted in EL as mining. So yes mining is lower turnover, but space mining is now also part of the economy.

But overall, yes, MA are making cr*p decisions

 

[TeesMaarKhan]

you are not alone, same in hunting, whether you hunt big or small or try different setups its just seems like a cash grab going on day in day out. 400 to 500 ped down every hour is like normal

 

[Vadio]

Yea i kind piss off i never expect tt profit , i know house need take they cut
But at Rank 123 prospector
Using from TT to Mayhen P50 UL finder , all ended same tt 90% wall , and average mu its not even change much because timed mu wave

So if mindark want keep this TT Wall , they need end with MU wave , if they want keep with MU wave , they need Unlock TT
Keep both its disrepct with players... even more to players spend years of skilling while half universe saying that skill are useless

And they wonder why mindark shares is crashing , and financial statment ever year look worst , they become so greed that make this game even more expensive that 10 cent slots machines

*Space minning in fact add bit more layer that EL is faill to grasp but its not much , because i did space mining and o boy tt 60-70% most time...... so if you stay in space for week you going see that not much popular , globals are missleading since C10 cost around 90 ped C9 is 70 ped C8 is 65 C7 is around 50

 

[WhiningSkeptic]

In b4 the simps come say" your never gonna beat the TT you gotta make up the differnce in MU"

Using "simp " tells me I have played this game longer than you have been alive.

No way to beat TT but exploit the time based randomness and that is quite a bit time consuming

 

[Dayzed]

Using "simp " tells me I have played this game longer than you have been alive.

No way to beat TT but exploit the time based randomness and that is quite a bit time consuming

Probably not since ive had my account since 2017, my first child was born in 2012.
Funny enough i think that is the first time i have personally used that term.

 

[WhiningSkeptic]

Probably not since ive had my account since 2017, my first child was born in 2012.
Funny enough i think that is the first time i have personally used that term.

Guess we are about the same age then.

I still don't think beating the house is possible though.

 

[delta force]

No way to beat TT but exploit the time based randomness and that is quite a bit time consuming

I would say there was period of godly TT return in loot 1.0 when some ppl figured and broke into high dpp during that period juiced with crit chance/increased critical damage setups and were just grinding, sacrificial dagger was one of best items if you knew how to utilize it, remeber a guy grinding only proterons with imk and crit chance/increased critical damage setup making a nice bank.

 

[Fanan]

I would say there was period of godly TT return in loot 1.0 when some ppl figured and broke into high dpp during that period juiced with crit chance/increased critical damage setups and were just grinding, sacrificial dagger was one of best items if you knew how to utilize it, remeber a guy grinding only proterons with imk and crit chance/increased critical damage setup making a nice bank.

And that was the reason for loot 2.0, all because MA introduced rings and L armor with amazing buffs (EST). Now with loot 2.0 every loot is base on the PED input and not anymore a fixed cost to kill a mob, like it used to be.

To the OP: Mining is fine, IF you know what to do and what to avoid. Mostly of the people complaining about mining rarely mine other planets besides Calypso and pay premium MU percentages on amps to mine for nanocubes in overcrowded areas. In this system markup is king. Same goes for hunting, you can have the top in-game items but if your choice of mobs is wrong you will lose like everyone else. And let's not even talk about bankroll, and how many tickets can you pull before selling loot, if it was easy everyone would do it. Apart from evade/looter professions and HP, skills are just doors that open. You still need to choose your table well. It's not because you have a higher profession level that you will get profit.

 

[Mos Craciun exista]

you need to drop more mines ( not 30-40 per day ) for more practice ,and not to cry on thist forum every day ...what do you think , bro ? ....

 

[InKwL]

Yeah, last few days was something strange with the loot. But I didnt care because I try to enjoy more time with family and not be online.

On forum is one thread with a lot of good info.
And yeah. To own a specific finder/amp will not grant you the win/profit.
I did understand why my finder/amp is good in one server and be very bad in other server.
Is not about drop a probe and be the best.
Like in hunting in mining is the same, there is not a single item to be the best. Each item have his best time only in some server/mob/minerals.
To be able to see and read where and how to use it is the key to make some profit here.

 

[Vadio]

you need to drop more mines ( not 30-40 per day ) for more practice ,and not to cry on thist forum every day ...what do you think , bro ? ....

Realy? .... last week you have 31 global , i have 34 .... so if play so low like you say you to my boy
I dont compare month because i only back like 2-3week and did space minning so i know you probably dont like me because i leave from you useless soc , (soc without reason to exist)

 

[Vadio]

Yeah, last few days was something strange with the loot. But I didnt care because I try to enjoy more time with family and not be online.

On forum is one thread with a lot of good info.
And yeah. To own a specific finder/amp will not grant you the win/profit.
I did understand why my finder/amp is good in one server and be very bad in other server.
Is not about drop a probe and be the best.
Like in hunting in mining is the same, there is not a single item to be the best. Each item have his best time only in some server/mob/minerals.
To be able to see and read where and how to use it is the key to make some profit here.

I disagree , to me each finder have effy and amp to you can figure out rest , tis not mean awalys win.... but come some point that gear based in zho table linked above you going get tt 98% or even 99 , 99.50 so you can forget about mu need it and have fun.. , look i dont even ask above 98 i try put some reason here , because even golden days exist and you have wonderfull loot , its same time annoying because if need go out , or cant play that specif day you going sit in loss for weeks and weeks, and sometimes multi are cap so you never going recovery , so i ask to they change something more persoal , like old days

 

[Mos Craciun exista]

Realy? .... last week you have 31 global , i have 34 .... so if play so low like you say you to my boy
I dont compare month because i only back like 2-3week and did space minning so i know you probably dont like me because i leave from you useless soc , (soc without reason to exist)

i like you coz you are brazil boy , for sure , but here we dont speak about " nice aspect "

and i repeat again , dont drop 30-40 probes/ day and suggest to have results...

about society...it 's just your opinion , and im gratefull ! ( but , if everyone thought like you they would fuck this game up sooner or later... ) .... i hope not !

good luck with your results , but stop crying here every day , you annoyng all uf us .

 

[InKwL]

I disagree , to me each finder have effy and amp to you can figure out rest , tis not mean awalys win.... but come some point that gear based in zho table linked above you going get tt 98% or even 99 , 99.50 so you can forget about mu need it and have fun.. , look i dont even ask above 98 i try put some reason here , because even golden days exist and you have wonderfull loot , its same time annoying because if need go out , or cant play that specif day you going sit in loss for weeks and weeks, and sometimes multi are cap so you never going recov

Never, but never you can forget about MU.
Even if you have a nice "golden day" or not, MU need to be there.
There need to be a balance between TT return/ MU.

 

[Vadio]

Never, but never you can forget about MU.
Even if you have a nice "golden day" or not, MU need to be there.
There need to be a balance between TT return/ MU.

And i not disagree....... but let be fair here.... with this cap both in TT and MU its fair ?
Its fun?
Exist reason to come here and keep playing?
What point upgrade you gear? or tiering you gear

i like you coz you are brazil boy , for sure , but here we dont speak about " nice aspect "

and i repeat again , dont drop 30-40 probes/ day and suggest to have results...

about society...it 's just your opinion , and im gratefull ! ( but , if everyone thought like you they would fuck this game up sooner or later... ) .... i hope not !

good luck with your results , but stop crying here every day , you annoyng all uf us .

well if you believe i do 30-40 drops per day ok , i cant argue anymore and probably not change you mind
Soc itself you know i asked about space minning when return you just say " I DONT GIVE FUCK , I DO PROFIT , "fuckyou" so i asked myself? why this exist? and why should stay here , so to avoid any more conflict i leave....

Idk what i did for you , i hope you enjoy you profits , guys wonder who i can sustain all this loss? easy. trade

Call me crybaby as much guys wish , i just raise awareness about real truth situation in game that you know , figth for things i believe is wrong and need change it , and suggest along way , maybe my suggestion is wrong but its not up you to decide , you can judge but tis not you that make calls

 

[Mos Craciun exista]

Soc itself you know i asked about space minning when return you just say " I DONT GIVE FUCK , I DO PROFIT , "fuckyou" so i asked myself? why this exist? and why should stay here , so to avoid any more conflict i leave....

BIG BOYS DONT TALK ON FORUM ABOUT THAT

 

[Dayzed]

you annoyng all uf us .

Im not annoyed, plese dont speak on others behalf.

 

[slick27]

And that was the reason for loot 2.0, all because MA introduced rings and L armor with amazing buffs (EST). Now with loot 2.0 every loot is base on the PED input and not anymore a fixed cost to kill a mob, like it used to be.

To the OP: Mining is fine, IF you know what to do and what to avoid. Mostly of the people complaining about mining rarely mine other planets besides Calypso and pay premium MU percentages on amps to mine for nanocubes in overcrowded areas.

I have seen no difference between Cyrene or calypso in uncrowded and crowded areas the globals unamped still missing which are needed to top you up.

 

[I need $]

Im not annoyed, plese dont speak on others behalf.

I have to say it's awesome read through all this negativity on PCF each and every day for last three months that I'm back in business. I'm not even sure if I know more toxic place at the moment.
This wonderful mood on PCF is also highly motivating for older players willing to come back and pour some fresh PED in... And newcomers will be hooked for sure as well

I'm not saying that EU is in good shape, we are far from that. But rage won't help it (and it's unhealthy).

 

[Dayzed]

I have to say it's awesome read through all this negativity on PCF each and every day for last three months that I'm back in business. I'm not even sure if I know more toxic place at the moment.
This wonderful mood on PCF is also highly motivating for older players willing to come back and pour some fresh PED in... And newcomers will be hooked for sure as well

I'm not saying that EU is in good shape, we are far from that. But rage won't help it (and it's unhealthy).

I think you've quoted the wrong post, not an ounce of rage in any of my posts.

 

[Fanan]

I have seen no difference between Cyrene or calypso in uncrowded and crowded areas the globals unamped still missing which are needed to top you up.

Need to drop more then. Have had plenty of globals unamped but was dropping a lot of probes daily. Besides, if you're a good miner you won't need globals at all.