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How Fire Emblem Heroes inspired one guy to spend $900 on week 1

This week in Fire Emblem Heroes – launch week, mind you – one fellow spent a whopping $900 (or more, so he suggests) on gacha. Gacha is the monetization technique used in random-toy vending machines around the world, here used to distribute characters in Fire Emblem Heroes. While the game itself is free to play, users are encouraged to attain new characters (heroes) to use whilst playing. Gamer Kookoo22 decided that Fire Emblem Heroes was put together well enough that he’d give the gacha element a go – over, and over, and over again.

When the game begins, the user is given a number of “orbs” – which are one form of currency in the game. When the player gets 5 orbs, they’re able to trade the game to summon a new hero. Fire Emblem Heroes encourages large amounts of orbs to be spent at one time by showing 5 unopened summons at once. The first summon is 5 orbs, then each successive summon costs one fewer orb than the last.

It’s very, very easy to find one’s self wishing they had more orbs almost immediately. While there are a number of ways to earn orbs in the game, Nintendo has also made it possible to purchase orbs for real money. That’s an in-game purchase, and a very easy way to spend a whole lot of cash.

The gallery you’ll see below shows the heroes attained by one user, Kookoo22, over the course of the first week this game’s been active. Believe it or not, $900 does not necessarily get the user all 89 unique characters (different rarities, names, etcetera). UPDATE: After spending a total of $1050, Kookoo22 suggests he’s still missing 7 characters.

Kookoo22 suggested on Reddit that they are both a Chemical Analyst and a Software Developer, meaning it’s possible they’re making a decent amount of cash – but it’s not as if they have unending piles of cash. Asked what he did to become a Chemical Analyst slash Software Developer, Kookoo22 listed the following:

• Bachelor’s in Biochem – 4 years
• Master’s in Analytical Chem – 2 years
• Self taught programmer
• May go back for Ph.D. at some point

“I highly recommend for everyone to learn how to program,” said Kookoo22. “It will open up doors and give you an edge against peers in your same field that do not know how to do it.”

Using this amount of money on a game that’s been released only days before might be an indicator of a gambling addiction. It might also be that this user really, really loves the Fire Emblem game series. Asked about his love of the game and gaming in general, Kookoo22 said, “yeah, I have pretty much everything I could want gaming-wise, it’s really the only thing I spend extra money on.”

When asked whether he spent the same amount of cash on other games, Kookoo22 replied: “I’m a big spender in Guild Wars 2, I dropped a lot into Mass Effect 3 multiplayer when it first came out, if the multiplayer in Andromeda is good, I will probably do the same.”

“Outside of that, I used to play alot of TCGs and miniature table top games,” said Kookoo22, “and competitive arcade games like Initial D and Wangan Midnight, but arcades died and I moved away from my local gaming scene and never found another one, so everything went digital.”

Kookoo22 was also pressed further about what he likes about Fire Emblem specifically. “You go through life and you are the main character in your mind, but everyone else out there also have their own stories where they are the main character and they are just as valuable as a person as you,” said Kookoo22. “I think the Fire Emblem games highlight that by showing that each person is unique and even though they are characters in the main story, they have their own interesting stories too and they are valuable.”


https://www.slashgear.com/how-fire-emblem-heroes-inspired-one-guy-to-spend-900-on-week-1-08474365/
 
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I know people who spend that monthly on Rise of Mythos. It's an online trading card game. They release cards every month that are only obtainable by spending hundreds of dollars. These cards are often powerful and give people an advantage in pvp.
 

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the gacha system that we japanese started implenting into smartphone game is so popular and common here in japan and its not too unusual that one spend some hundred USD worth money for it, sometimes 4 digits, it is making shamefully lots of money through it now, some games are discussed at parliment office that such system should be labeled as a gamble and ought to be a law to restrict some how or company should provide actual probabilty to hit big one (rare character, uber item, etc.) though no visible change so far.

some games really demands players to do gacha to play so its real win to pay game and its getting similar to casino more and more...wait, am i speaking of gacha-ran-smartphone game or EU ?..im confused, lol.

since we japanese are already addicted to such game so we may have the base for playing EU but then again most of us japanese are illiterate on english and more into casual gaming style rather than serious one when it comes to MMORPG so the population of japanese here will remain as it is, less than 10, in future too.

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I still wonder what happened to Toulan. The Jordanian based planet partner was supposed to tap into the Jordanian/middle eastern market but somehow this hasn't happened?
 

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I still wonder what happened to Toulan. The Jordanian based planet partner was supposed to tap into the Jordanian/middle eastern market but somehow this hasn't happened?
We live under a one-happy-world illusion that everybody thinks the way we think. While countries, societies and individuals with varied views live in all parts of the world, it is hard to ignore the factions that get to power and rule all the rest as far as their arms reach. Sometimes things happen suddenly, sometimes one step at a time...

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-issue-fatwa-on-un-islamic-game-a7146886.html
 

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I still wonder what happened to Toulan. The Jordanian based planet partner was supposed to tap into the Jordanian/middle eastern market but somehow this hasn't happened?
Uhh, gambling is pretty anti-islam...


But anyway, if someone were to look at my deposits over the years they would be worried about me too. I can afford it, sounds like this guy can, what's the issue?

Some people like spending there $ on video games, some on travelling, some on prostitutes. Each to their own :D
 

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I still wonder what happened to Toulan. The Jordanian based planet partner was supposed to tap into the Jordanian/middle eastern market but somehow this hasn't happened?
Same thing that happened to the other 'great planet partners' out there...

Dead Planets:
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Is it real?? Casino and poker on entropia universe??



NEXT ISLAND: (well, still half dead at least)
RIP Next Island
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POSTMODERNA:
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Virtual world, where millions of people can work, socialize, learn and fall in love
CRD chief executive David Liu predicted that the virtual worlds will generate approximately 10,000 jobs in the mainland.
“An important aspect for this project is also the positive effects on our environment that we foresee,” Liu said. “People will actually be able to work from home inside Entropia Universe, as many people do today, even from rural areas, thereby decreasing the amount of pollution generated by travel.”
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Understandably there are some questions raised due to the annual report. Unfortunately I cannot comment on the FPC part - yet. What I can say is that the future for FPC and Planet Calypso is looking brighter than ever.


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All of em struggle. That's why Cyrene and RT had to downsize... Mindark makes em pay a monthly fee per server based on what I've read in a few places... If they can't afford it the planet fizzles and slowly (or quickly) dies. I still feel it's a bit eerie how closely ND's Presidential Promises closely align with David Liu's promises for CRD...
 
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Same thing that happened to the other 'great planet partners' out there...



All of em struggle. That's why Cyrene and RT had to downsize... Mindark makes em pay a monthly fee per server based on what I've read in a few places... If they can't afford it the planet fizzles and slowly (or quickly) dies. I still feel it's a bit eerie how closely ND's Presidential Promises closely align with David Liu's promises for CRD...
Next island, planet Michael, Universal monsters were all creations / IP licensed by neverdie. See was just a bad idea in the dark times of entropias financial difficulties.

Really, planet partners are for people / groups who have a good idea / IP, but can't / don't want to build a game themselves. Personally if I were MA, I would have done it differently (licensed IP of their own, to development studios, e.g. A 3rd party develops akbal cimi).
 

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Uhh, gambling is pretty anti-islam...


But anyway, if someone were to look at my deposits over the years they would be worried about me too. I can afford it, sounds like this guy can, what's the issue?

Some people like spending there $ on video games, some on travelling, some on prostitutes. Each to their own :D
I agree with Aio, the first 3 years in EU I had very little disposable income and my deposits (and play style) was somewhat restricted. My finances have been much better over the last two years and I work in Africa. I go out only occasionally and the cost of living here is minimal. I have depo'd considerably more over the last 2 years, bought better gear and upped my game. Having said that I only depo $200 - $300 a month. Compare this to a night out. It was my birthday last Friday and I had a night out - meal, club, taxis - this came to $300 for one night. I get a whole months entertainment from EU for that so I am more than happy to depo this amount. When I return home next month I expect my depo amounts to drop as I wont be playing 4 - 5 hours every day.

Just because gambling is forbidden by Islam, doesn't mean that Muslims dont gamble, spend a night in the back street cafes of Cairo (predominantly Muslim) and you will find a lot of people playing Tawlet (Backgammon) for money.

That being said - converting people to play EU is a completely different thing. I hope Toulan does pick up but I just cant see it's market
 

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Just because gambling is forbidden by Islam, doesn't mean that Muslims dont gamble, spend a night in the back street cafes of Cairo (predominantly Muslim) and you will find a lot of people playing Tawlet (Backgammon) for money.
Nobody can rule every backyard in the offline world, but online this has become pretty simple as pointed out in the news article from Saudi Arabia above. Authorities can shut down access to a particular address or service any time and will do it the moment they catch wind of something they don't like. Try justifying investment into a real-cash game, or even just your time and energy in a social network, under the threat of getting the plug pulled any day. The people there know this quite well.
 

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Nobody can rule every backyard in the offline world, but online this has become pretty simple as pointed out in the news article from Saudi Arabia above. Authorities can shut down access to a particular address or service any time and will do it the moment they catch wind of something they don't like. Try justifying investment into a real-cash game, or even just your time and energy in a social network, under the threat of getting the plug pulled any day. The people there know this quite well.

VPN - anyone ??????
 

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I think Toulan bringing in hordes from the Middle-East was our (stupid) expectation. The company making Toulan must have realized how bizarre this dream is and rather expected the exact opposite - to sell/popularize the exotic Middle Eastern culture on the Western market.

Considering: a) listening music is prohibited b) making/taking a picture of anything that has a soul (animal, human being) is prohibited, and last but not least c) all western culture is decadent and evil in their "mainstream culture".

It might get better if the world would calm down a little (one can dream.. :)) The old dictatorships were much more stable and for a dictator it's in his best interest to take power away from religious leaders and steer their countries towards more secular society (think: Turkey). If so, they would eventually come to the entertainment market but, the world is less than ideal so... it's a long stretch. :(
 

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I think Toulan bringing in hordes from the Middle-East was our (stupid) expectation. The company making Toulan must have realized how bizarre this dream is and rather expected the exact opposite - to sell/popularize the exotic Middle Eastern culture on the Western market.

Considering: a) listening music is prohibited b) making/taking a picture of anything that has a soul (animal, human being) is prohibited, and last but not least c) all western culture is decadent and evil in their "mainstream culture".

It might get better if the world would calm down a little (one can dream.. :)) The old dictatorships were much more stable and for a dictator it's in his best interest to take power away from religious leaders and steer their countries towards more secular society (think: Turkey). If so, they would eventually come to the entertainment market but, the world is less than ideal so... it's a long stretch. :(
Maybe they should be marketing to the, for instance, thousands of Saudi Princes, just to name one middle eastern wealthy market segment, that doesn't seem to have any issues with western culture if YouTube and Instagram are any measure of their acceptance and participation. For many years I have had many conversations with people who have first hand "boots on the ground" knowledge of the hypocrisy between public statements and private behavior in those regions and communities, adoption should not be a problem if target marketing is done accurately.
 

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Maybe they should be marketing to the, for instance, thousands of Saudi Princes, just to name one middle eastern wealthy market segment, that doesn't seem to have any issues with western culture if YouTube and Instagram are any measure of their acceptance and participation. For many years I have had many conversations with people who have first hand "boots on the ground" knowledge of the hypocrisy between public statements and private behavior in those regions and communities, adoption should not be a problem if target marketing is done accurately.
Yep. They have a king who's first concern is to keep his subjects calm and satisfied. I was actually thinking about Saudis the whole time I wrote this :) There's even a few women in this country who can have almost western level of freedom (you only have to marry the right man).
If this is possible, anything is possible for a man born into the right family.:wtg:
 
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