You ever feel like this game hates you?

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So often... it feels like the game is specifically against me.

I'll study the numbers, I'll set up a good bankroll, I'll load up with some decent gear and I'll go out grinding on a mob that all signs point to being due to hit. I'll grind for days on the mob and maybe get a few pity globals. Then of course, the minute I have to stop because I need to sleep, go out...etc. All these hofs start dropping on the thing I was going after and many times in virtually the same place. And to add insult to injury, far too often it's some low level noob that's been playing for 15 minutes that gets these good loots.

It's happened so many times over the last few months I've lost count. Atrox, Osseocollum, Araneatrox, Ambu's, Kreltin, Aurli.... happens. Every. Fucking. Time. And it's to the point I'm losing faith and asking the question why I even bother. Being able to predict/deduce what's going to hit is pointless when it's seems that all the loots are actually predetermined and destined for OTHER avatars.
 

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Every day...
 

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yeah, game being too bad too often is whole reason i went from playing 30-40 hours a week down to playing less than an hour in a week or two.
 

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When MA decides its ur time to pay there is nothing to do but ride it out and hope for that mythical equalizer. When i get these bad streaks i usually make a small "good will" deposit of like 20 bux it can help sometimes.

Theese slowdowns are 95% guaranteed after a big hof or withdrawal.
 
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I doubt there's such thing as predicting what will drop big. Or to be more precise, I doubt all avatars have equal chance in hitting a given hof. And it depends alot if that hof is regular return or some outstanding jackpot, if such difference even exists in MA's algorithms. I think is more useful to take care of your own highs and lows, so everything to be designed such as to pull you through the lows, instead of taking care about "hot mobs" or what other people are looting.

Also, for every single hof you are taking, somewhere in EU there's somebody cursing at the screen, convinced that you are stealing his hofs.
 

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. And to add insult to injury, far too often it's some low level noob that's been playing for 15 minutes that gets these good loots.
Don't worry about that 15 minute n00b who is possibly an alt, Mindark avatar or Planet Partner in disguise, or some Doctor or banker who just deposited 2.5 million dollars.
 

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Well, I'm seriously thinking of taking another 1/2 year break.

Mainly due to doing migration mobs, hoping for a decent loot but every damn one looting around 30% cost to kill.
 

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I'll study the numbers, I'll set up a good bankroll, I'll load up with some decent gear and I'll go out grinding on a mob that all signs point to being due to hit. I'll grind for days on the mob and maybe get a few pity globals.
If your experiments don't yield the results you expect, your theory needs to be revised.

This is good because it means it's actually a theory and not a doctrine.
 

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You have an ath

HAHAHa exactly .... While he an ATH and was going to make events for our amazing comunnity i was loosing thousands in explosive 3

Some peoples greedy going beyond this universe | Just saying :laugh:
 
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You have an ath
and...?

I see how it is... "you've had a good hit, move it along. Doesn't matter if that was a break even for you or profit - you've officially lost the ability for your opinion to matter."

I'm not talking about gaining profit every day here. I'm just talking about the feeling of futility in even trying to break even after an extended period of time with giant down swings and how even in the face of being virtually in the right place and the right time you're still passed over.

I mean what, just because I hit an ATH 3 years ago that's it? It's all fine and acceptable for me to lose thousands and thousands of peds with zero uptick to balance back to a reasonable return? I just have to shut up and take it because "oh... well you had a ATH".

So one good thing happens in your life and that's it you're condemned to take it up the butt for eternity there after because "well you had that ONE good thing way back when". Bah...
 

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The game doesn't hate you.


You have to handle the 'ups' as well as the 'downs', that's all! ;)
 

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probably not the game, the office does :)
 
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Words can be missleading and deceiving , stuff like volatile and dynamic could be used in any sentence since they mean nothing.

What the numbers telling you ?Are you capped and every 1-2-3-4-500k peds cycle nets you same result ?Are you hitting the same shitty multipliers over and over again no matter what where and when ?


Don`t be silly now,game is fair,there is no manipulation of loot ,you just need to try hardorrr :D


Look on the bright side , by the time your hair is white and falls you might hit something decent again cuz you know... volatile :)
 

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What low level noob can hunt those mobs? if you were talking Kerbs or something then different story.
 

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Yeap! count another one here too :cool:
Strange thing, everytime I loss big time few minutes later someone win big time and this happening so much often..... like this game spitting on my face :mad:
 

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I'll study the numbers, I'll set up a good bankroll, I'll load up with some decent gear and I'll go out grinding on a mob that all signs point to being due to hit.

This is your biggest mistake, imo.
 
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This is your biggest mistake, imo.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Detritus again.

Correct. There is no such thing as a mob that is due to hit, only mobs with markup and those without.
 

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Actually the game loves you, because you're the perfect player for them.

Like many others, you know full well that loot is based directly on the player, his deposits, and losses.
But despite that, you keep playing endlessly, because you refuse to believe it.

It is however simple to understand that it cannot be otherwise, cause it's exactly because of this that Entropia does not fall within the scope of the regulation of gambling, casinos, and lotteries.
(I think MA's lawyers are pretty good) :deal:

The game will always leave you with some good crumbs when it is sure you will let them ingame, and continue playing, and so lose them at the end anyway.
Since you think you were so close to win this time, you will deposit again.
The game is designed for one single thing: Make people BELIEVE, for as long as possible, and.. it works. :better:


So if you play for fun, that's nice.
But if you play whith the hope of getting money, you just waste your time.
And time is so precious, it's priceless ! :dancing:
 
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There is no such thing as a mob that is due to hit.
 

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I'm a hard core slot player when I go to Reno.
I also play alot of Keno.

The things I hear people say and do at the machines is a hoot.
Machine hits a nice payout...
I should have bet max!
No!

Depending on the size of the wager, the action on the machine will be different.
Bigger bet, less action.
Smaller bets will win more often, less payout.
By changing the bet you are basically changing the machine.
Your bankroll will not be as volatile though.

My numbers came up and I didn't bet.
This one is a little more deep.
If the person had gone and actually made the bet, they would have changed the space time continuum.
The clerk would have taken more time to make the transaction, the random number generator (if on a digital Keno) would have come up different.
On a ball machine the lever would be pressed at a different time.

Using auto stop on a Slot Machine.
I'm very good at stopping the reels to get the bonus symbols.
No!
The machines use an RNG and the auto stop is only to stop the video, and show the results of the spin faster.
The spin has already been determined, as the RNG has already picked its number.
It's used to speed up play.
Now before digital machines you could actually mess with the handle and maybe possible get a reel to stop sooner.
Bonus rounds are a different animal.
Picking symbols during a bonus round is not pre determined and just more chance.
What is pre determined is the max payout you can achieve during the round.

Slots are the worst odds in the house!
23% against you.
But they are the most frustrating, exciting, and pay the most when you hit.
No other game in the house has a chance of getting big wins on small bets.
Problem is the speed of the play can kill your bankroll so fast, that you end upstairs in the sauna with a nice towel to cry on.
Or with a few grand in your pocket to cover the hotel and the trip.

Iv heard people on the boards say they want balancing?
Why?
Do you really love the game, or do you love the game?
If you want to have 98% payback 100% of the time shoot punys.
If you want to win big you gotta bet big.
If you don't like pain, stay off the slots.
There's some good odds plays on the craps table.

I would not change it for the life of me though because it's the extreme feeling of losing big and winning big that keep me coming back.

Entropia is cool because I can keep all my winnings in my storage and I know I didn't lose everything.
I still have my toon, my skills and I can come back to where I was at any time.
It is after all still an MMO.
I don't have to bet another 5k to get my gold card back.

MA must roll an RNG when you click on the dead Mob.
As they said they have criteria that determines the size and nature of the returns.
Biggest factor is Ped out.
I also believe they have anti farming algorithms in place.

Rock On!
 

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So, Jambon, you want to break even with hunting? You do know you can only achieve that with mu, right?
Tt break even is a dream.

Also, you had an ATH, and you still think the game hates you?

Isn't it just a matter of expectations?

You do know this game is made for you to lose?

Dang man, in 13 years, I managed to get a 3k hof. How about hate?? 5 digits is just a dream. I don't even expect a 4 digit. Hell, not even a 3.
And still I manage to play without depositing.

But yes, I do feel what you feel. The game hates me. Maybe even more than it hates you. And I'm also on MA's shitlist. Loot is ridiculous. Hofs once per decade.
You should see me scream at my pc some days :laugh:
But I consider myself smart enough to beat the system.
At least, at my pace, that is.

There's more than just the grind.

Many people have fallen. But the main reason is always, expectations which are way to high.
Results are broken dreams and frustrations.


You're not alone.
Know that.
Just don't expect, and the love will come.

Otherwise, take a break before you go mad.
Maybe the love returns...
 

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Your expectations should always be in line with your budget. The players that try to play above there budgets, are the ones with unrealistic expectations..... and the ones who have unrealistic expectations and play above there budgets..... are the sort of players that are here today and gone tomorrow.
but what your budget has to be has changed with loot 2.0+ , for the worse, that's what people are complaining about.
before loot 2.0 300 PED did last for 2-3 days for me and now it's about 2-3 hours (same mob/craft)... a lot less bang for the buck.
 

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Not since yesterday. First big rare item hof ever :). :ahh:
 

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I do fully understand your pain, I can easy loose 500 peds per run after the changes, but it does usually sorta level out over several runs.
i wish that would be true... i had my last upswing over 12 months ago :(
 
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