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    Post Starter packs recap

    Hi,

    I get this one asked a lot (a looooooot), maybe it's best I leave this here. I will try to answer two questions:

    1. Is any starter pack worth it?
    2. Which one should I get?

    The shop interface is not very user friendly unless you want to click that right arrow to eternity... so I made a little table. The table below shows information taken directly from the Entropia Universe Web Shop.

    Bronze Silver Gold Platinum (Refill small) (Refill large)
    Price $5 $15 $30 $75 $5 $20
    Premium chardef Yes Yes Yes Yes No No
    Universal Ammo 43 PED 132.62 PED 257.91 PED 705.31 PED 50 PED 200 PED
    Harrier Armor Scout Assault Assault, Adjusted Assault, Adjusted No No
    Neurobiotic Booster A5 1mg 2 8 20 50 1 5
    H-DNA No 1 5 15 1 5
    Oil No No 100 200 No No
    LV Lupus 4x4 (L) No No Yes Yes No No
    I0-Pulse Unit No Yes Yes Yes No No
    Mining Package No No Yes Yes No No
    Z12 Barbarella Yes Yes Yes Yes No No
    ZX Eagle Eye No Yes Yes Yes No No
    ZX Sinkadus No No Yes Yes No No
    ZX R-Dod No No No Yes No No
    Price $5 $15 $30 $75 $5 $20


    Now, I will try to review each package. This is just my opinion, I know I'm a cheap bastard but I think patience and smart savings can make a difference in this game.

    Starter Pack Bronze ($5)
    I suppose this is aimed at people on a very tight budget, or only wanting to try the game. Not really worth it, you can try the game for free, most of the starter missions reward you with a bit of ammo. The harrier armor is quite mediocre, and even though the Z12 Barbarella saves the package you can get a Bukin's Spare Rifle very soon in the game.

    If you are on such a situation that you only want to squeeze five bucks, I suggest you keep them and just try the game without pressure or remorse.


    Starter Pack Silver ($15)
    The situation is similar to the Bronze package, the only big difference is that you get an extra ~90 PED of universal ammo. But really if that's the only thing you wanted why not just deposit $15 and get ~150 PED in cash or boxes?

    The addition of the healing tool I0-Pulse Unit is nice, but then again you can get an unlimited Vivo S10 by completing the first Gauntlet mission, even unmaxed you can get some heals. And in any case I do not recommend burning healing tools so soon into the game, you don't have much evade and the regular harrier does not protect that much. A heal here and there sure, but don't hunt things that require you to heal very often.

    No Sinkadus amp... lame. Don't buy this unless you have no way of buying the gold pack.


    Starter Pack Gold ($30)
    Perfect in every way, the best pack in the shop in my humble opinion. You get a full Adjusted Harrier armor, a car with fuel, a full hunting setup including the awesome Barbarella plus Sinkadus combo, a mining package and 20 skill pills. A nice amout of universal ammo too.

    They reduced the price from $40 to $30 this is the best early investment you can make, period.

    I love this pack, and $30 is more than fair.


    Starter Pack Platinum ($75)
    Only buy this if you already know you love the game, you get 30 extra skill pills and a lot more universal ammo. All else is pretty irrelevant, the R-Dod laser sight is just bling in my opinion.

    If you have the extra $45 and you want to depo, I would just get the $30 gold pack and buy more strongbox+key packs from the webshop.


    Starter Pack Refill (both $5 and $20)
    Looks pointless to me if you are just starting, nobody starting this game should be in such a rush for skill pills and H-DNA to justify this pack. Universal Ammo? cool, why don't you buy strongbox+key packs instead... heck. Unless you have a very high budget ignore them.

    Maybe useful for veteran players looking to acquire skill pills as fast as possible for as cheap as possible (they are free, since you get the dollar amount in universal ammo already).


    Related questions I get all the time:

    Q: Should I always use the amplifier when hunting?
    Yes, absolutely. Always.

    Q: Should I use scope and sight when hunting?
    In my opinion? NO. Unless you find it hard to hunt without the scope's zoom. Avoid using laser sights, they only add extra decay and no meaningful skill bonus at all.

    Q: Should I armor up when hunting?
    Depends, if you die a lot or have to heal a lot without armor it's always better to use an armor. If you have the adjusted harrier the extra speed can help you walk backwards while shooting, thus taking full advantage of the Z12 Barbarella range. The decay on your armor will be returned in loot to some extent, the fap is more tricky as you usually heal up outside of combat. Go naked if you can, otherwise armor up. Honestly at this point of the game it doesn't really matter, you'll get there.

    Q: Should I use the H-DNA I got in the pack?
    This is another matter of opinion. I would not use them, respawns are fast and free. Sell them, they have decent MU.

    Q: Should I buy an Opalo?
    Why do I still get this question? The Sollomate Opalo sucks, every time you fire it a kitten dies somewhere.

    Q: Efficiency? Eco? I'm confused
    - Efficiency = Loot quantity
    It ranges from 1% to 100%, you can see it at the top of your weapon stats. Higher efficiency is better and it controls your loot return in the long run (on average, over thousands of kills).

    - Eco = Loot quality
    Eco (also damage per pec, or dmg/pec) is a calculated property of weapons. Higher is better. It controls the quality of your loot (higher eco will allow you to loot rarer stackables more often).

    Q: Upgrade path?
    1. Z12 Barbarella + Sinkadus
    2. Xent Tech X3 + A102
    3a. A-3 Justifier Mk. 2, Adjusted + A104 (low budget)
    3b. Ecotron v.15e Prototype + Improved A105 (high budget)
    4. EWE EP-41 Military, Adjusted + Improved A105

    If you still need help past this point, contact me I'll try to help you out.



    TL;DR
    Buy the gold pack, it's very worth it.




    I'll say it again, seeing as mentors are so prone to hyperbole in Rookie chat.... this is just my opinion, share yours if you don't agree this is a forum you know.

    O2 out.
    Last edited by Angel O2 Mercer; 05-19-2020 at 07:16. Reason: Updated to 2020 times

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    Good write up, thank you for taking the time Angel.

    I also agree with your conclusions


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    500 more nutrio bars , 5 more boxes and 50peds more ammo, a few peds oil and probes, i think that makes the 20$, especially if you like pets, don't you think ? Nutrio are still expensive !
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    Nice Thread. Any way you could put links to the Entropedia entries for each item in there for fast reference? I've been avoiding the starter packs since it didn't make a lot of sense vs just depositing regularly... I might start using them for the nutrio and to get a couple of the items that you can't get any other way, but I'm still not sure it works out any cheaper really or is really worth it... isn't the herb box and a lot of other items in game just a tad better in eco (well unless you consider that the UL versions are harder to get now that availability is less than it used to be a few years ago) - just considering that that part of the conversation should be in here since I constantly see folks suggesting use of the starter packs in rookie channel and I'm not sure if that's really best advice to be giving out if the stuff in there isn't really as eco as other alternatives in game?

    Are the items like the guns, armor and vehicles in the starter packs tradeable or soul bound to the avatar? Also, are some of the web shop things limited to which planet it can be used on (specifically thinking about the Kong package's Tommy gun - does it work on all planets or just in the Secret Island like some of the hub items only work in the hub, etc.)

    Also, do you really get 'more' ped with the webshop if you do the ped packages or 'value packs' vs normal deposit and go up to the TT to buy ammo or not?... not sure on if it's 'cheaper per ped' one way or the other after you take in to account the bank fees, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liu View Post
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    500 more nutrio bars , 5 more boxes and 50peds more ammo, a few peds oil and probes, i think that makes the 20$, especially if you like pets, don't you think ? Nutrio are still expensive !
    500 Nutrio Bars are worth 12-14 PED with MU. If you got some special item that you can't get any other way maybe it would be worth it, but you can buy nutrio and oil from auction.

    For $20 I would rather get 20 strongboxes, just my opinion.

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    I am a convinced strongbox depositer as an alternative to regular peds. I guess you are right, 20$ is a bit too much.
    But really, beside the armor giving 8% speed bonus, what's so cool in this pack if you're not a knewb anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermesh View Post
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    Nice Thread. Any way you could put links to the Entropedia entries for each item in there for fast reference? I've been avoiding the starter packs since it didn't make a lot of sense vs just depositing regularly... I might start using them for the nutrio and to get a couple of the items that you can't get any other way, but I'm still not sure it works out any cheaper really or is really worth it... isn't the herb box and a lot of other items in game just a tad better in eco (well unless you consider that the UL versions are harder to get now that availability is less than it used to be a few years ago) - just considering that that part of the conversation should be in here since I constantly see folks suggesting use of the starter packs in rookie channel and I'm not sure if that's really best advice to be giving out if the stuff in there isn't really as eco as other alternatives in game?
    I'll put links when I have some spare time. The herb box has markup now, and it also requires to be level 1 paramedic which starters are not. The Pulse unit has no level requirement and it's maxed soon, and also has better eco than a herb box. The next logical step is the Vivo S10, but they have to use something untill it's maxed or close to maxed. The Barbarella + Sinkadus combo is unmatched still, and has no level requirement either. Yes the gold pack is very very worth it for people who have just started the game.

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    Are the items like the guns, armor and vehicles in the starter packs tradeable or soul bound to the avatar? Also, are some of the web shop things limited to which planet it can be used on (specifically thinking about the Kong package's Tommy gun - does it work on all planets or just in the Secret Island like some of the hub items only work in the hub, etc.)
    Most items are bound (armor, guns, amps etc..) you can only sell the stackables like oil, H-DNA, probes, nutrio, etc.. No planet specific requirements that I know of, but that's a good question maybe someone else knows for sure.

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    Also, do you really get 'more' ped with the webshop if you do the ped packages or 'value packs' vs normal deposit and go up to the TT to buy ammo or not?... not sure on if it's 'cheaper per ped' one way or the other after you take in to account the bank fees, etc.
    The value of the starter packs is to buy them once, of course. For people starting the game the difference between having a starter pack and not having one is huge. Then you can deposit or buy strongboxes (I suggest stronboxes over a regular deposit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liu View Post
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    I am a convinced strongbox depositer as an alternative to regular peds. I guess you are right, 20$ is a bit too much.
    But really, beside the armor giving 8% speed bonus, what's so cool in this pack if you're not a knewb anymore?
    Well, for older players the advantages of the packs go down big time. You probably have a better amor, weapon, amp, fap ...

    The only value I can think of for more experienced players is pure utility. Those small daily missions, strafe hunting, walking past the pyromancer, etc..

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    Starter Pack Refill ($20)
    Looks pointless to me, nobody starting this game should be in such a rush for skill pills and H-DNA to justify this pack. Universal Ammo? cool, why don't you buy 20 Strongboxes instead... heck. Unless you have a very high budget ignore this.
    When starter packs were new, high level players bought them for the pills, but got inconvenienced that they got a lot of harrier sets that wasn't tt:able and was filling up storages. (This was before the strongboxes.) So, I guess the refill packs is aimed at those who wanted to buy those pills. (I'm not sure, but I Think that for a time X and Y pills were purchaseable from webshop, I guess this is a solution to that aswell.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel O2 Mercer View Post
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    Well, for older players the advantages of the packs go down big time. You probably have a better amor, weapon, amp, fap ...

    The only value I can think of for more experienced players is pure utility. Those small daily missions, strafe hunting, walking past the pyromancer, etc..
    There is one pack you didn't mention: The rocktropia package. The purpose of that one is mainly if you want a King Kong gun.

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