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Nighthawk said:
As official sources has obviously said the tactic is OK, then we must come to the conclusion that it is intended. Just like we must conclude that VTOL tactics (which is a completely different thing altogether) is not intended, or OK.

If moving away from the mob is to be considered an exploit, then all movement while hunting would be considered an exploit. Backing away from a Traeskeron would be considered an exploit since you can walk backwards faster than it moves forwards, etc.

Strafe backwards? Strafing is moving to the side (which is as fast as running forwad), moving backwards is backwards and slower. There is no bug.
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I'll wait and see what support replies. By how you describe a problem/bug/exploit you get a response and I'm pretty sure I could get "yes go ahead exploit" response on this one also If I described the exploit in the correct way.

This is to be compared with VTOL yes. It is using game mechanics in a way it was not designed or intended, to not be hit by the mob. VTOL was not designed to be used so the mobs didn't hit you while hunting. Strafing was not designed to be used to not being hit while hunting.

Feel free to do it tho I don't really care but I want to be in the discussion if it's right or wrong.
 
lol minni when it say's you suposed to get hit by mob ?

take example of mob i hunted alot the levi i see tons of hunters swim backwards when shooting is that exploit too ?

and we all know levi give more hof's that proterons do.

I say kudos to the guy that found way that work for him am going to try it cos it looks funny but i doubt i got time to hunt that way in the time he kill one mob we probably kill 3 mobs and honesly you can hunt proterons whith 180hp + gremlin whith imp faper no need even the mod one Nika can tell you in gremlin i was killing the guardians so providers lol easy.

Too bad this don't work on daspletors.
 
I guess plp from MA read forum every day,and as things like these bug/exploit and whats allowed always get contention so maybe MA should have a thread about this. "" bug/exploit and whats allowed Thread""

When a support case come in to MA they could get info for us gamers if iit allowed or not here on forum,and as fast as possible ofc.Then its simple for us player to check only that thread to get info..

//WL
 
Xing Nu said:
lol minni when it say's you suposed to get hit by mob ?

take example of mob i hunted alot the levi i see tons of hunters swim backwards when shooting is that exploit too ?

and we all know levi give more hof's that proterons do.

I say kudos to the guy that found way that work for him am going to try it cos it looks funny but i doubt i got time to hunt that way in the time he kill one mob we probably kill 3 mobs and honesly you can hunt proterons whith 180hp + gremlin whith imp faper no need even the mod one Nika can tell you in gremlin i was killing the guardians so providers lol easy.

Too bad this don't work on daspletors.
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If you are not supposed to take damage from mobs I'd say Mindark ****** up big by making armors, faps, defensive skills and healthpoints since it's really not any point to have any of it..

Yeah and both hof with CRAP and basically just TT food. The average markup isn't enough on any of those mobs to cover teh avg TT return. So by all means exploit until the eyes pop out because it's worthless and money will be lost on it.
 
minim said:
This is to be compared with VTOL yes. It is using game mechanics in a way it was not designed or intended, to not be hit by the mob. VTOL was not designed to be used so the mobs didn't hit you while hunting. Strafing was not designed to be used to not being hit while hunting.
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I agree with VTOL not being supposed to be used that way, but I very much disagree with the rest.



If strafing was not allowed to avoid mob attacks, anyone could do the same by running forward away from the mob, he/she would simply have to turn a few degrees more.

Where is the limit then? If you were to get strafing banned (or nerfed), would you then go after those backing away from mobs (which with for example Traeskeron would make them never hit you)? Or those running forward away from the mob, using the same technique? Should all jumping be banned while hunting? Would it be considered an exploit if I had a mob with both ranged/melee attacks and ran in close to avoid getting hit since my evade skill is higher than my dodge?
 
Oh, btw, mob speed has been changed in the past. Can happen again at any time.
 
Nighthawk said:
I agree with VTOL not being supposed to be used that way, but I very much disagree with the rest.



If strafing was not allowed to avoid mob attacks, anyone could do the same by running forward away from the mob, he/she would simply have to turn a few degrees more.

Where is the limit then? If you were to get strafing banned (or nerfed), would you then go after those backing away from mobs (which with for example Traeskeron would make them never hit you)? Or those running forward away from the mob, using the same technique? Should all jumping be banned while hunting? Would it be considered an exploit if I had a mob with both ranged/melee attacks and ran in close to avoid getting hit since my evade skill is higher than my dodge?
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Why is it wrong to use VTOL to not get it and OK to use strafing to not get hit? Then it basically should be allowed to hunt proteron/malc with VTOL since you can outrun them :p Does it make any sense?
 
The big difference between VTOL and this technique is:
- VTOL exploit: Everyone can do it on every mobs.
- this technique: you must be able to outrun the mob, which mean that you have INVESTED in skilling your agility to a certain level. And this is time to rip the reward.

Can I say that it is an exploit when a guy with very high evader profession get Much Less hit than a newbie hunter? Is it an exploit to use big DPS gun to reduce armour and fap cost? Of course not because the person has invested his time and money for skilling. The same principle applied to this technique, you cannot get 80 agility in 1 day, right?
 
I think someone should make another thread " Strafing killing slower movement mobs, is it exploit or not?"...discussions and free class are a bit messy here
 
nlnforever said:
The big difference between VTOL and this technique is:
- VTOL exploit: Everyone can do it on every mobs.
- this technique: you must be able to outrun the mob, which mean that you have INVESTED in skilling your agility to a certain level. And this is time to rip the reward.
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Exactly. Same applies when using MindForce to do it... Even with 73 agility (you don't get much being a MindForcer) and +15% speed from the chip (which requires level 25 pyrokinetic), I have to stick to Youngs since the Mature ones would catch up with me if I happened to be forced to run uphill or something.

With a VTOL, someone would be able to use the technique on any maturity of any mob, basically, with no skill/attribute demands.
 
Entropia is fast becoming a nanny state , if strafing . Jumping . Walking backwards . Or running forward is an exploit then what's the point of even hunting in the first place , all MMO's and fps has these movements to create more realism and strategy . Get rid of these things then you will fast see ppl leave entropia because it will lose any realism in game
 
Closing this thread, which is clearly an attempt to continue the issues in an earlier thread already closed by 711.

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