Divinity
Marauder
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I was standing at my Twin Peaks Bank entrance when i was approached by Mr. X ( Forum rules state that i cant name scammers and so i shall hereby refer to him as Mr. X) to sell his 0x0f Tier 6.9 and detpil vrex2ksga t5. A small negotiation followed at the end of which i had the vrexsga with me and we decided to conclude on the 0x0f pending more discussion. All's good and well till then.
Around 30 minutes later i was talking to James Bling Cash about the deal and he mentioned that Mr X was borrowing the 0x0f from what he recalls. Many thanks to Bling for if it was not for his information I would not have smelled anything fishy in the whole deal. He confirms with Mr. X who tells him that he is. “Hmmm, it did not seem like the item was not his while negotiation” I thought.. Bling could not get out who's 0x0f he was borrowing and that sort of left a question mark in my head..
Fast forward an hour, I knew a friend of mine from soc “ The Red Black” had a similarly tiered 0x0f as he had been looking for skills to be able to use it. Not sure why but i wanted to confirm the status of his 0x0f and so i asked him. To Red's horror and my surprise in a few minutes we figured out that it was his 0x0f that Mr. X was trying to sell with no information about the trade to Red. A second shock came when Red claimed that the vrex2ksga i had bought was from another guy named “ Many Smoky Nights”. Red contacts Smoky and in the next 20 minutes we figured out what was happening. I immediately removed the vrex2ksga from the shopkeeper at twins so that it does not get sold to someone else. Basically Mr X was trying to sell the items he had borrowed from people.
Red tried getting back his 0x0f from Mr. X as he had not traded it with me yet telling him that he wanted to tier the gun to t7 but Mr X went non committal and logged out. Both Red and Smoky were pretty bewildered at this point of time and there seemed little going our way. I asked my friend Aurora Linzey Zamperath to see if he could help get this information to MindArk , because that was the only way anything could have been done. A big thanks to ya buds for being of immediate help and helping us solve the issue. He contacted Charlie and within 10 minutes I was told that they will be have someone look into the matter immediately. Big Thanks to Charlie for the pro activeness shown. We were asked to send support cases as well with details, which all 3 of us did. Needless to say both Smoky and Red , while they felt much better then before were still anxious to see where this leads to as i bet anyone else would be with there gear being up for grabs.
We waited another day making sure not to let the information leak out as we did not Mr. X to get wary and act compulsively while we could not get information whether his account was locked or not. The next day Red found Lupus @ Icarus and communicated with him and was told that they have already taken preventive action and the case was pretty much in MA's radar already and they are working on it. We were told that our support cases were being replied to and to be precise within 10 minutes we received our responses through support (I think Red has still to receive his response but i wont bicker about that as the larger issue was what concerned us).
We are all awaiting MA's decision on the matter but I would like to take the time and thank MA for being proactive enough to prevent this almost certain scam from happening. Appreciate Charlie's , Lupus's and the supports response to the issue at hand and hoping for a speedy analysis.
“Trust Scams” are the worst as it comes from quarters very close to heart. Its like a double edged dagger as it leaves you both emotionally and financially drained.
We are sharing with the community our experience so it helps all of us going forward to be more vigilant and helpful to each other. Traders are usually the first who get to act responsibly as items stolen need to be sold and if you see a deal which raises suspicion, please go forward and think beyond your profits and see if you can truly help someone under duress.
Of late i have seen a lot of faps being passed around among people and i have personally warned a lot of my friends against the same. I know its not ideal but we all need to safeguard ourselves when the system cannot. “ Trust Scams” are often perpetrated by people who we consider trustworthy for years. These primarily happen because of irl changes to a persons financials which leads to desperate attempts by them.
Keep tuned as i will update this thread with the conclusion of the episode. If anyone would like Mr. X's identity , feel free to pm me.
Stay Safe
Divinity
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Update 1
Taking a look at the events from The Black Red's perspective
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Update 2
Hi Deth,
We will now begin to reverse the trades, you will be returned all your money that you payed for said items as soon as possible, in the meantime I will move the items back from you to the original owners and move the PED back to you as soon as we can.
Please be patient for a little while we begin this operation.
Kind regards,
Ulf | Entropia Universe Support
Around 30 minutes later i was talking to James Bling Cash about the deal and he mentioned that Mr X was borrowing the 0x0f from what he recalls. Many thanks to Bling for if it was not for his information I would not have smelled anything fishy in the whole deal. He confirms with Mr. X who tells him that he is. “Hmmm, it did not seem like the item was not his while negotiation” I thought.. Bling could not get out who's 0x0f he was borrowing and that sort of left a question mark in my head..
Fast forward an hour, I knew a friend of mine from soc “ The Red Black” had a similarly tiered 0x0f as he had been looking for skills to be able to use it. Not sure why but i wanted to confirm the status of his 0x0f and so i asked him. To Red's horror and my surprise in a few minutes we figured out that it was his 0x0f that Mr. X was trying to sell with no information about the trade to Red. A second shock came when Red claimed that the vrex2ksga i had bought was from another guy named “ Many Smoky Nights”. Red contacts Smoky and in the next 20 minutes we figured out what was happening. I immediately removed the vrex2ksga from the shopkeeper at twins so that it does not get sold to someone else. Basically Mr X was trying to sell the items he had borrowed from people.
Red tried getting back his 0x0f from Mr. X as he had not traded it with me yet telling him that he wanted to tier the gun to t7 but Mr X went non committal and logged out. Both Red and Smoky were pretty bewildered at this point of time and there seemed little going our way. I asked my friend Aurora Linzey Zamperath to see if he could help get this information to MindArk , because that was the only way anything could have been done. A big thanks to ya buds for being of immediate help and helping us solve the issue. He contacted Charlie and within 10 minutes I was told that they will be have someone look into the matter immediately. Big Thanks to Charlie for the pro activeness shown. We were asked to send support cases as well with details, which all 3 of us did. Needless to say both Smoky and Red , while they felt much better then before were still anxious to see where this leads to as i bet anyone else would be with there gear being up for grabs.
We waited another day making sure not to let the information leak out as we did not Mr. X to get wary and act compulsively while we could not get information whether his account was locked or not. The next day Red found Lupus @ Icarus and communicated with him and was told that they have already taken preventive action and the case was pretty much in MA's radar already and they are working on it. We were told that our support cases were being replied to and to be precise within 10 minutes we received our responses through support (I think Red has still to receive his response but i wont bicker about that as the larger issue was what concerned us).
We are all awaiting MA's decision on the matter but I would like to take the time and thank MA for being proactive enough to prevent this almost certain scam from happening. Appreciate Charlie's , Lupus's and the supports response to the issue at hand and hoping for a speedy analysis.
“Trust Scams” are the worst as it comes from quarters very close to heart. Its like a double edged dagger as it leaves you both emotionally and financially drained.
We are sharing with the community our experience so it helps all of us going forward to be more vigilant and helpful to each other. Traders are usually the first who get to act responsibly as items stolen need to be sold and if you see a deal which raises suspicion, please go forward and think beyond your profits and see if you can truly help someone under duress.
Of late i have seen a lot of faps being passed around among people and i have personally warned a lot of my friends against the same. I know its not ideal but we all need to safeguard ourselves when the system cannot. “ Trust Scams” are often perpetrated by people who we consider trustworthy for years. These primarily happen because of irl changes to a persons financials which leads to desperate attempts by them.
Keep tuned as i will update this thread with the conclusion of the episode. If anyone would like Mr. X's identity , feel free to pm me.
Stay Safe
Divinity
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Update 1
Taking a look at the events from The Black Red's perspective
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Update 2
Hi Deth,
We will now begin to reverse the trades, you will be returned all your money that you payed for said items as soon as possible, in the meantime I will move the items back from you to the original owners and move the PED back to you as soon as we can.
Please be patient for a little while we begin this operation.
Kind regards,
Ulf | Entropia Universe Support
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