Mel
Alpha
- Joined
- Dec 1, 2005
- Posts
- 612
- Location
- USA---Oregon
- Society
- Hunters Unlimited
- Avatar Name
- Hormel Mel Jorell
Had a real shock last night. When I started playing over a year ago, I kept a lot of records of skill gains vs ammo, loot etc. After Christmas dinner, and way too many egg-noggs, was inspired by dzdolan's skill quest to see how long would take me to get to 5 hit on standard laser rifles. I have not chipped rifle, started with 5783 rifle skills and pro level bar about 1/3 on level 44 laser rifle hit. I shoot 10k to 40k ammo every day, every single day, lately been using pistol more, but I will load out for a hunt with 10-20k med and light cells each. I looked at skills last night, rifle at 5,818, about 1/3 progress bar. I thought to myself, gee, 35 rifle points doesn't seem like much for the past 2 weeks...I'm gonna check this. So put 102 on breer m2, grabbed 10k ammo, and hunted a spawn of umbra and molisk n of Lymn, and shot it up. Checked skills again, surprise, still 5818...wtf wtf wtf. I gained about 1/2 bar of one skill point on 10k+ ammo.
Before you flame me or suggest something like "noob, it's the L weapons, get yourself a real gun", the last couple weeks I have used MK2, ff, and bravo more than I ever have.
So I did this, grabbed punisher from storage..slapped lasers, scope, e12 and another 10k ammo (thinking I'd get twice as many shots as using Justy)... I went thru 1100 ammo before I got 1, yes one, rifle skill tick in chat window. I logged really upset. Still upset..approx 170 shots for one rifle skill gain message. I know skills slow as you get higher levels, but mine aren't uber by any stretch. And to skill to 5.8k rifle I've had to shoot a bit, irony intended. And if my pro standing bar was real close to getting level 45, I might write it off to a slowdown for next pro standing of remarkable, but it's only half way...
I'm freaked out...and am going to track and test only this for next few days. If you are very near same levels, I would be interested in your results if you are willing to use actual stats, not just generalizations or feelings. I know my results for last night are not enough for statistical accuracy, but perhaps with reuslts from others get a better view.
But this is why I'm freaked...let's just assume skill gain is linear, that it doesn't get any slower for me thru 10k skills(although we know this isn't true), and that I get a full rifle skill point for every 10k ammo(which I'm still testing, but seems even lower) and I shoot 30k ammo evry single day, over 200k a week, every week. That's 4200 (skill points)x 10,000(ammo)=42,000,000 ammo
That's if gain is linear, with better results than I currently see. AND, that will still be a far cry from getting 10/10 with laser rifles. What if it now takes me 100,000,000 or more ammo just to get to 10k rifle from my current level?..I will continue to post results
Edit Sept 2, 2007...that's how long it took me to get to 5 hit with laser rifle, unlocked combat sense last night. Also gained the same amount of pro levels with laser pistol, so I was not just shooting rifle, just couldn't do it all the time. Rifle skill at 6288, so gained a whopping 500 rifle skill points in that time. Only combat skill chipped was RDA about a year and 1/2 ago, and less than full chip. I should have kept track of amount of ammo and weapon tt, etc. Unlocked wounding couple months ago, since really only used laser. Honestly did not think would take this long, even with the skill nerf, but there it is. For the last pro level, I burnt 8 full tt breer m4's+106, several Isis LR 32+41's+106 of various tt, a lot of riker 1&2's of various tt, and M71A1+105 for range, even opalo for finisher. I gave up a long time ago trying to keep track of ammo since it comes in loot. Probably did not hunt as hard core as some, but pretty sure u can't call me a slacker.
Before you flame me or suggest something like "noob, it's the L weapons, get yourself a real gun", the last couple weeks I have used MK2, ff, and bravo more than I ever have.
So I did this, grabbed punisher from storage..slapped lasers, scope, e12 and another 10k ammo (thinking I'd get twice as many shots as using Justy)... I went thru 1100 ammo before I got 1, yes one, rifle skill tick in chat window. I logged really upset. Still upset..approx 170 shots for one rifle skill gain message. I know skills slow as you get higher levels, but mine aren't uber by any stretch. And to skill to 5.8k rifle I've had to shoot a bit, irony intended. And if my pro standing bar was real close to getting level 45, I might write it off to a slowdown for next pro standing of remarkable, but it's only half way...
I'm freaked out...and am going to track and test only this for next few days. If you are very near same levels, I would be interested in your results if you are willing to use actual stats, not just generalizations or feelings. I know my results for last night are not enough for statistical accuracy, but perhaps with reuslts from others get a better view.
But this is why I'm freaked...let's just assume skill gain is linear, that it doesn't get any slower for me thru 10k skills(although we know this isn't true), and that I get a full rifle skill point for every 10k ammo(which I'm still testing, but seems even lower) and I shoot 30k ammo evry single day, over 200k a week, every week. That's 4200 (skill points)x 10,000(ammo)=42,000,000 ammo
That's if gain is linear, with better results than I currently see. AND, that will still be a far cry from getting 10/10 with laser rifles. What if it now takes me 100,000,000 or more ammo just to get to 10k rifle from my current level?..I will continue to post results
Edit Sept 2, 2007...that's how long it took me to get to 5 hit with laser rifle, unlocked combat sense last night. Also gained the same amount of pro levels with laser pistol, so I was not just shooting rifle, just couldn't do it all the time. Rifle skill at 6288, so gained a whopping 500 rifle skill points in that time. Only combat skill chipped was RDA about a year and 1/2 ago, and less than full chip. I should have kept track of amount of ammo and weapon tt, etc. Unlocked wounding couple months ago, since really only used laser. Honestly did not think would take this long, even with the skill nerf, but there it is. For the last pro level, I burnt 8 full tt breer m4's+106, several Isis LR 32+41's+106 of various tt, a lot of riker 1&2's of various tt, and M71A1+105 for range, even opalo for finisher. I gave up a long time ago trying to keep track of ammo since it comes in loot. Probably did not hunt as hard core as some, but pretty sure u can't call me a slacker.
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Skill gain sux bigtime atm. I also hunt between 1-2k peds worth ammo everyday since 3 weeks and I've gained 
