Learning period: How long is it exactly?

Does anyone know how long this period is for weapons? And is it the same for every weapon? I already checked a Force Basher club, and the learning period is from 12 to 17. So the learning period lasts exactly 5 levels.

If its different for every weapon, you can post your findings here. My goal is to collect this data for every weapon, so I can make a "Personalized weapon chart" for the wiki site.

There are two learning periods, damage and hit, do they both end at the same lvl's?

opalo's learning period (hit) ends at Laser Sniper (Hit) lvl 5, btw.

Cougar said:

There are two learning periods, damage and hit, do they both end at the same lvl's?

opalo's learning period (hit) ends at Laser Sniper (Hit) lvl 5, btw.

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Im not sure, I am only able to see my progress in hit, damage is already maxed out. The opalo start at level 0 right? If so, that would mean the learning period of opalo also lasts 5 levels.

Any more people that can confirm its 5 for all weapons?

Little bump. Anyone has more info on this?

Would It also be Interesting to know what LvL it's maxed, and also the LP end?

Or would this be too hard to work out?

Great Idea btw. Look forward to it.

It would be illustrative to find out the range for the Unique Dub&McCormick Terminator. I seem to recall it has a huge range of SIB so it might be a counter example. Since i lost mine in a fight with a chirpy last week i can't look up the numbers myself.

Dom_sufc said:

Would It also be Interesting to know what LvL it's maxed, and also the LP end?

Or would this be too hard to work out?

Great Idea btw. Look forward to it.

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I was under the impression that the LP would end at the moment you max out the item? This is how I calculated it for the force mace basher anyway.

Correct me if I am wrong:
The LP starts at 12 (the requirement) and at that moment your HA is 3. At this moment my level is 13.3 and my HA is 4.8. So to max it out I need gain:

(13.3-12) / (4.8-3) * 7 = 1.3/1.8 * 7 = 5 levels

from the moment I reach the requirement.

So, if we currently assume the learning period lasts 5 levels, would that mean that "base level +1" = HA 2.0? Post your HA's and progressions and all, everybody, any stuff you can. +rep for the guy bringing this up, I've been wondering about this myself but always been too lazy to do any checks.

My stats

Sorry for the double, I just wanted to add my statistics and bump this thread, too. This is probably going to be a long and very untidy post. I might edit it a few times to make it look less chaotic, so don't kill me just yet.

My professions: Hit Damage
L. Sniper - 18.4 Laser - 14.7
B. Sniper - 15.7 BLP - 9.9
P. Sniper - 14.2 Plasma-7.4
G. Sniper - 14.2 Gauss- 7.4

L. Pistoleer - 11.5
B. Pistoleer - 8.8
P. Pistoleer - 7.4
G. Pistoleer - 7.4 (But doesn't exist yet)

(DMG Profession RCMD is self-explanatory and same as Hit, thus not written)
Weapon Hit Profession RCMD HA CHA Damage
S30 BLP Pistol - 0 MAX MAX
S40 BLP Pistol - 1.5 MAX MAX
S50 BLP Pistol - 3.0 8.9 9.1 MAX
S60 BLP Pistol - 7.0 5.2 5.6 13.0-26.0/29.0
T10 BLP Pistol - 19.0 N/Y N/Y

Heatray A P. Pistol - 0.5 MAX MAX
Heatray B P. Pistol - 3.8 8.9 9.2 10.6-21.3/22.0

P1a L. Pistol - 0.9 MAX MAX
P2a L. Pistol - 3.8 MAX MAX
P3a L. Pistol - 6.0 MAX MAX

Korss 380 L. Pistol - 8.9 9.2 9.4 MAX
Korss 400 L. Pistol - 12.8 N/Y 17.5-34.9/37.0



M1a L. Rifle - 0.9 MAX MAX
M2a L. Rifle - 3.8 MAX MAX
M3a L. Rifle - 5.6 MAX MAX
M4a L. Rifle - 12.4 MAX 18.0-36.0/37.0

Riker UL1 L. Rifle - 6.7 MAX MAX
Riker UL2 L. Rifle - 8.7 MAX MAX

Pros. M15 BLP. Rifle - 29.1 N/Y N/Y

It seems in both situation you have a LP, the weapon is maxed out around 5 levels above the recommended level. So I untill now, for all weapons the learning period is 5 levels.

Does anyone know at what level your damage is when you reach the recommended level?

This post needs a bump. Data is still inconclusive. So if you have any aditional info, plz post!

Witte said:

It seems in both situation you have a LP, the weapon is maxed out around 5 levels above the recommended level. So I untill now, for all weapons the learning period is 5 levels.

Does anyone know at what level your damage is when you reach the recommended level?

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If I'm not mistaken, I am almost 6 levels above Emik S 50 in terms of hit, and almost maxed out. Damage is more than 6 levels above, and it is maxed out alright...
And the initial damage seems to be 40-80% (Opalo began at 3.2 - 6.4 IIRC). And yes, this thread does need a bump (after I took the time to write all that stuff down, too! ).

Witte said:

Does anyone know how long this period is for weapons? And is it the same for every weapon? I already checked a Force Basher club, and the learning period is from 12 to 17. So the learning period lasts exactly 5 levels.

If its different for every weapon, you can post your findings here. My goal is to collect this data for every weapon, so I can make a "Personalized weapon chart" for the wiki site.

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Korss H400 (L)
required hit: 12.8
required damage: 12.8

My skills
hit: 17
damage: 14.2

skill increase bonus
hit: not anymore
damage: yes

ergo: the skill increase bonus on a korss H400 is active for at most 3.2 lvls (hit). I can't comment on damage yet.

Witte said:

I was under the impression that the LP would end at the moment you max out the item? This is how I calculated it for the force mace basher anyway.

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Has this already been confirmed? I would assume the same.

I am trying to compile a list of when you have maxed your weapons. (only opalo and m1a in there atm )
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56675
Mainly interesting for SIB weapons.

dolera said:

Korss H400 (L)
required hit: 12.8
required damage: 12.8

My skills
hit: 17
damage: 14.2

skill increase bonus
hit: not anymore
damage: yes

ergo: the skill increase bonus on a korss H400 is active for at most 3.2 lvls (hit). I can't comment on damage yet.

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I now maxed the damage too, well before i reached lvl 16. I have a screenshot - but not on this system, so cant post it (yet)

To me it seems that the duration of the SIB on that H400 is not even 3 lvls.

Seems its different for aim and damage...one of em appears to be 5 levels while the other is different...but im also 5 level diff between the 2, and of the 2 guns I know I still have bonus on one is maxxed out while the other has bonus.

Bps from sketchy rcollection seems to be around that as well, but more like 4 levels of bp vs prof standing.

some info on mf 105

begin SIB: 2.9 surveyor
end SIB: 11 surveyor

hope it helps

uhm.... mhmm

bump for more info on this one.

Some of this information is on Entropedia.
If you go to the weapons section and select "Show all columns" there are six columns labeled:
Hit Profession Rec. Maxed Damage Profession Rec. Maxed

Not all the information is filled in but some of it is.