Moon's & Hraf's MDA quest

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The exciting challenge is now at its end. During the last 4 days me and Moonbiter have been decaying blade after blade in search of what is known as Melee Damage Assessment. Many Feffoids, Argonauts, Maffoids, Snablesnots and similar have felt the wrath of our uncontrolled blows. This is the story of drugs (coffeine and nicotine), success and the cost of those two. ;)

The winner


Moonbiter unlocked MDA 8 minutes before I did and is therefore declared the winner of our MDA quest! He recieved the prize of 100 peds a couple hours later:



Overall results
Like written above the challenge took 4 days in the end for each of us to gain 5 levels in Swordsman (Dmg). I did not bother to document all my costs during the challenge for some reason, but Moonbiter did. I would say the end result is pretty much the same although Moonbiter did burn through more Longblades during the challenge. My skill gain was a lot quicker since I had higher skills in Anatomy among others, but my return was quite a lot worse per hunt.

Moonbiter reported a loss of 1177.98 peds during the challenge. Although I didn't document my hunts in detail my losses were close to 1.2k peds, in other words around the same. The main reason for the return being so low may be because we used Katsuichi Honor's which are definitely not efficient at our level. It might also be because there was an official event with Eomon HoF's all over the place.

Detailed results for Moonbiter
Total peds lost: 1177.98

Skill value gained w/o esi (this would be the cost to chip up the skills i gained paying peauction prices): 1027.54

Skill value w esi: 627.71 (That's what i will get after chipout, though ET calculates and peauction, i found these figures to be pretty accurate during the last chipdown, cause the higher real skill value is absorbed by auction fees, inserter decay, a bit higher esi price and the fact that you get only 90% of the chip tt estimated, due to those 10% lost while extracting).

TT of blades burned (5098.94)
Total return in tt (4108.09)
Total additional value (429.08)

Return in tt: 80.56%
Return with ad: 88.98%

Note, this does not include armor/fap decay, which in in total was 232.72.

Now, skills:

Strength: 30.15 --> 46.03
HP: 119 --> 122
total skills: 67 985 --> 72 998
LB: 1042 --> 2731

Original Post
Me and Moonbiter decided to start a friendly challenge between us two. The first one to unlock Melee Damage Assessment before monday will win a sum of 100 peds (donated by the loser). At the start of the challenge we both had around 13 in Swordsman (dmg) and MDA unlocks at around 18 according to Entropedia.info.

If no one wins the challenge we are both punished by having to buy a full SK-20 each and heal newbies in Port Atlantis Swamp Camp until the FAP's die out. We wouldn't wanna have to spend the rest of our lives there so we're doing our best to skill up. ;)

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The first hunt resulted in this to pop up:


Exciting... you bet!
 
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This is extremely fun, lots of ardour :)

Two globals for me so far:






And damn irl interfering, have to leave for a few hours :laugh:
 
I seem to be in the lead with 14.76 in Swordsman (dmg), but I'm unsure how long I can keep the lead. No RL for a week maybe? :laugh:

We're both using 3x Katsuichi Honor to quickly skill up. The eco is surely wonderful at 1.0 HA. :rolleyes:
 
Cool challenge :cool:

Was that an UL Isis CB5 there?
 
GL to the both of you on reaching MDA. Im working on that same task but havent set a time/date. The difference is im doing it with tt enblade :laugh:

Im not too convinced about the hit accuracy on weapons anymore since i counted 6 missed swings on an exa mature yesterday :eek: which was with the tt enblade (maxed out of course) yet i havent counted more than 2 missed swings on an argo or trax with the determination :scratch2:
 
Nice challenge guys :) gl with it
:laugh: I used Valor / 2x0 axe combo to unlock it :(
 
Thanks everyone, I'll be more determined now that we have an audience. :wtg:

Cool challenge :cool:

Was that an UL Isis CB5 there?

Pretty much. :rolleyes:
 
Moonbiter has to look out. Haven't seen him in almost six hours now. :eek:

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A little break from skilling for me now... since I have no competition. ;)
 
Woke up after some sleep and finished the 4th hunt :) No luck this time and big loss :D

14.07 in swordsman dmg atm, bah, gotta skill faster :laugh:
 
:cheer:Good Luck to you both!!! I'm on the edge of my seat awaiting the results!!!!:yay:
 
After the last hunt for the evening I reached 15.56 in Swordsman (dmg). Closing in to say the very least. However, it will still be a tough challenge only to reach MDA before monday. Skills are advancing at a much slower pace already, but still not even close to let's say agility gain these days. :laugh:

Moonbiter is still very much in the game it seems. I have to set the alarm so I can get up early and do my very best to keep the lead. ;)

EDIT: I might add that we have recieved 1 HP each today during our skilling. All hail the Melee Damage skill! :wtg:
 
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News from the front line :D

After 2 more hunts i have finally hit 15th level :) Atm it is 15.02



As you can see, changed to determinations to catch up with Hraf faster ;) But probably will go back to honors soon, eco is quite terrible :( Also had this little global, but overall loosing.



Btw, Hraf is still sleeping :laugh:
 
Well, after two more hunts i'm now at 15.59 in Swordsman (dmg). Changed back to honors, but still loosing quite bad and globals have gained one more rank in avoiding me :laugh: Result up to date is -665.81.
 
some loss, expensive stuff this melee is
 
Calm down m8, dont burn your pedcard. Use the unmighty TT-blade ;)
 
Calm down m8, dont burn your pedcard. Use the unmighty TT-blade ;)

I thought the 2x0 axe was good economy with higher dmg to boost loot changes ?
 
Damn, seems Moonbiter caught up with me. Time to go online and blast more Feff's. :laugh:

I was off all day because my right ear is totally clogged with what I persume to be wax. Done all I can to get rid of it, but it seems I'll have to live with it a couple days longer. :eek:
 
Best of luck to you both in the challenge, I am very interested in watching this unfold. I'm personally starting to regret my choice of shortblades (not because I don't like them, because the (L) scratchers and up are really hard to find). I am wondering if I should switch to longblade or push through to MDA and then switch. I think your challenge might provide the insight I need ;)
 
I have done some more skilling to catch up with Moonbiter. I reached 16.13 in Swordsman (Dmg) just a couple of hours ago actually. Losses are quite extreme like Moonbiter said. I have lost around 400 peds I think and that is including that first global in the initial post. However, the skills may be worth something. ;)

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I wonder if I'll get another global soon? The complete lack of globals on my side causes at least as much distress as the losses.

I might add that I got another HP today. Up to 122 now! That means 2 HP gains from just skilling Longblades. :yay:

Best of luck to you both in the challenge, I am very interested in watching this unfold. I'm personally starting to regret my choice of shortblades (not because I don't like them, because the (L) scratchers and up are really hard to find). I am wondering if I should switch to longblade or push through to MDA and then switch. I think your challenge might provide the insight I need ;)

I don't have a clue how quickly you skill with shortblades. I would guess skilling must be around the same as with TT Longblades, so not that bad.

It would be way cheaper to unlock MDA with Shortblades if you have some nice skills already and I don't think it's that expensive to skill up with the TT Longblades either even without any skills whatsoever. You will lose a lot if you do like me and Moonbiter have done though, using non-SIB weapons with high dmg just to skill faster. :laugh:
 
It was surely a while since I was a disciple, but I once again felt the joy of graduating. This time in Longblades. ;)



At the moment I'm at 16.87 in Swordsman (Dmg). Not too far away, that MDA. :thumbup:

The extreme losses and the lack of globals make it a bit tedious though. At least let me get over 50% return for once. :silly2:
 
Here we go again. ;)

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Exactly 17.00 in Swordsman (Dmg). However, I'm almost out of peds which will probably force me to use TT Longblades from now on. :(

I'll probably spend all day tomorrow working on reaching MDA... through snable hunting! :laugh:
 
Really nice updates guys, a thrilling read to be sure +rep to both of you :wtg:
 
Well, after long sleep i'm back to skilling :D Hit level 16, atm 16.51 in Swordsman (dmg). Also had a funny global on feff with riker ul1 instead of h400 ;)



 
Did an unbelievably long hunt with TT longblades today. 10 longblades even! :eek: Must have taken around 5 hours to complete and you grow tired of snables after that to say the very least. ;)

It went well at least:



5 hours of hard and tedious work didn't give that much in skills however, I reached 17.28 which is 0.28 increase. :laugh:
 
Hi,
I thought the 2x0 axe was good economy [...]

Axe 2x0 would have good eco if you had it maxed - which would need more skill then anybody today is able to reach in years without eating skill chips for very serious $$ ...

I might point you to this thread, where in post #8 you'll find actual eco of 2x0 when having 4.2K LB and L24 swordsman: 2.375 Dam/PEC ...

In short for the lazy ones: using P3a/ a102 with 1.5K HG gives slightly more dam and ways better eco then axe 2x0 with 4.2K LB :(

Back to topic:

Gratz & respect to both of you competitors! I very much welcome some unbiased non-melee'ers reporting about their experiences in this area!

I haven't given up hope that maybe some day Marco or some other MA representative reads things like this and starts kicking butts of the balancing team: It's time to leave the balancing of money spent to local Ferrari and Lamborghini dealer, there are some hunting professions in EU that are completely fucked up!

Have fun!

PS: If you don't believe me you don't need to start checking MF professions that are even worse - just sometimes have a look at the offers in longblades in auctions:
We bladers usually are simply not able to buy a 10/10 weapon, because there is none to sell; add to this that only the nano/ dai nano katanas makes any sense to middle class swordsmen, and they come every other month, 1 or 2 ...
 
Thanks Xandra for insightful post. As me and Hraf were discussing yesterday ingame, melee hunting is really unbalanced... no eco weapons, markup on limited ones effectively kills eco, not to mention poor availability. There could be many ways for MA to improve it, but i guess they're too busy with Eggs, LGs, banks and vehicles ;)

So, after some more swords decayed, i've finally hit level 17. Had a few more globals, which softened the loss a bit. Atm i'm at 17.27. If all goes well, hope to unlock mda today.








At one time changed to Argos, but the server is pretty stressed, and they were acting funny :D just running all over the place withough attacking anyone, i had a hard time chasing them down with my blade :laugh:
 
hehe nice competition you got there going guys =) was actually thinking of something similuar with a friend but only thinking yet =) sitting on work and waiting for updates so get out there and hunt some... GL:yay:
 
After two more hunts, i'm at 17.53 in swordsman (dmg). Though hunts were ok'ish in loot terms (even had 30 profit on 1st one :eek:), skillgain has slowed down to crawl... getting only lousy 0.13-0.14 levels after 3 honors burned.





Well, if the skillgain keeps at this pace, it should be 4 more hunts before Mda. I hope i will be able to stay awake, it's been 24+ hours up and constant hunting :laugh: Hraf is still gone btw :confused:
 
The competition is now over! :yay:

I will edit the main post with the winner, some nice (read awful) data and some celebration screenshots. ;)

Be sure to donate some EFD and +rep us both if you enjoyed our nice little challenge. :wtg:
 
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