Any plan to fix the loot?????

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very happy about the changes we get in EU over the years.
very happy about the new planets and land deed.
but the core problem persist: loot!
until MA will not fix, balance the loot EU will continue to be considered around like a scam.
They can add as many planets they want but them will not bring new players (and in effect despite rocktropia, arkadia etcetc the whole player base didn t increase)

so after all this years is or not time to take care about that too, seriously??????
 
I've only been "back" for a month or so now, so I must have missed something; What's wrong with the loot? :scratch2:
 
I've only been "back" for a month or so now, so I must have missed something; What's wrong with the loot? :scratch2:[/QUOTE
Could u pls subscribe to this thread and read it again in a month or two.Most ppl get normal loot after comming back or trying out a new avatar.
 
http://www.entropiatracker.com/player.asp?mode=viewPlayer&PlayerID=207014

Thats wrong-i play since 2005,biggest hunting loot is 300 ped:laugh:

[h=2]Hunting Stats[/h] Favorite Mob: Atrox
Largest Loot: 228 PED
Total Loot: 4,858 PED
Current rank (30 days): 1219 of 3430
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[h=2]Mining Stats[/h] Favorite Mineral: Belkar Stone
Largest Find: 1,029 PED
Total Finds: 4,552 PED
Current rank (30 days): Na of 2155

Lol are you actually kidding me, your activity is low, but you want a biggie?

Some people are just unbeileiveable

Rgds

Ace

PS Epic fail at loot whine, whine again when you have a LOT more activity under your belt.....and what about your 1k mining loot??????????
 
[h=2]Hunting Stats[/h] Favorite Mob: Atrox
Largest Loot: 228 PED
Total Loot: 4,858 PED
Current rank (30 days): 1219 of 3430
bomb.png
[h=2]Mining Stats[/h] Favorite Mineral: Belkar Stone
Largest Find: 1,029 PED
Total Finds: 4,552 PED
Current rank (30 days): Na of 2155

Lol are you actually kidding me, your activity is low, but you want a biggie?

Some people are just unbeileiveable

Rgds

Ace

PS Epic fail at loot whine, whine again when you have a LOT more activity under your belt.....and what about your 1k mining loot??????????

pls dont make this personal and stay in topic.

people around internet has a super bad opinion about entropia, and this mainly because of the loot balance . It s not about me, you loot, 771, star, ND or whatever other ones.
It s a general consideration.

Imagine, a official statement about MA: Hello because of the good healthy of this game we decided to give back more money like loot. . You can enjoy playing EU longer with the same amount of ped deposited or even without depositing.
 
Loot is fine. Nothing is "wrong" with it.

Hint:
MU paid is lost.

Keep track of your input/output.
 
pls dont make this personal and stay in topic.

people around internet has a super bad opinion about entropia, and this mainly because of the loot balance . It s not about me, you loot, 771, star, ND or whatever other ones.
It s a general consideration.

Imagine, a official statement about MA: Hello because of the good healthy of this game we decided to give back more money like loot. . You can enjoy playing EU longer with the same amount of ped deposited or even without depositing.

Doubt that will happen since MA had some realy bad years with
a negative balance... ;)
I have realy bad loot now, way under 50% ROI, but on the other hand,
I know I use wrong setup up against the mob I go for... Imo, it's
about finding right comb of gear to every kind of mob.
But sometimes loot is realy bad no matter what (even thou' I have
my theory why ;)).
 
Since I stopped hunting for the swirly and started hunting for alittle MU the loot has been fine. I started spreadsheeting my runs and at 94% at the moment without a single global with 1000ped ammo turned over. That's a $6 cost for hours of skilling. Also the loot stayed really flat worst result 79% tt best 162%. On bad runs my ammo was returned to me almost to the exact PED. I only paid decay. On the good runs a significant portion of that decay was returned to me.

My result would of been better I think but the first 4 runs I was overprotecting with a 6ped defense bil, it was 1.98 ped on my last run.

Stopping hunting atrox was the best decision I Ever made in entropia. Defense bill was way to high and got next to no MU.
 

Ace,I play,MA kicks my b...s,i make a pause,i come back MA kick my b...s,i go again away.If u measure activity on entropiatracker,then u are missing many ppl who play every day.I didnt complain about mining,but in hunting-i just wish u my luck!!!
 
says the guy that looted shadow gloves :)

But I mean, what, I sell EVERYTHING at markup. In pure TT value I go with loss also, but I save everything and sell it for markup. Even the hides that sell for 101% I save untill I have 100 ped worth of it and sell it on the street for 101 ped. Then it's 1 ped less loss. I've covered my loss with molisk teeths the past 2 weeks, today I've been covering my loss with Iron at 107% and extractors at 160% from Argonaut. I think it's in how you play it. Sure, I also wanna rip out the biggest gun and hunt aliens and shit, but I realize that I just returned back to Entropia with 0 skills, just became LV 22 sniper today and that I need to play it safe. So I'm out there with my GeoTrek 470, selecting perfect leveled molisks, feffoids and argonauts, slowley slowley progressing pec by pec. I am past chasing the uber HoF, I've been there spending thousands of dollars a few years back.
 
I am past chasing the uber HoF, I've been there spending thousands of dollars a few years back.

You should start doing that again, MA could use a nice influx of additional cash. :laugh:
 
But I mean, what, I sell EVERYTHING at markup. In pure TT value I go with loss also, but I save everything and sell it for markup. Even the hides that sell for 101% I save untill I have 100 ped worth of it and sell it on the street for 101 ped. Then it's 1 ped less loss. I've covered my loss with molisk teeths the past 2 weeks, today I've been covering my loss with Iron at 107% and extractors at 160% from Argonaut. I think it's in how you play it. Sure, I also wanna rip out the biggest gun and hunt aliens and shit, but I realize that I just returned back to Entropia with 0 skills, just became LV 22 sniper today and that I need to play it safe. So I'm out there with my GeoTrek 470, selecting perfect leveled molisks, feffoids and argonauts, slowley slowley progressing pec by pec. I am past chasing the uber HoF, I've been there spending thousands of dollars a few years back.

It's a good strategy, and Molisk and Argonauts are favourites of mine too. Can you confirm for definite that you did loot these shadow gloves this week so I can update this thread:


https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...41-Does-Unlimited-armor-still-loot-on-Calypso

Thanks! :)
 
like i said, it s not my loot or yours, it s a general question.
Read around about EU in many forums and you ill see how is the game reputation.
And it s true it s not a game for all, we don t want billions of people around.
BUT
a better loot return for all, some lesser huge loot and more little loot for everybody according with time spending in game, dedication, activity etcetc i guess is not some the will hurt anyone......... and this is valid for who is making money and who is not.

So from where MA can bring those money?
well stopping to design the mobs 10 times, decreasing the uber loots and redistributing them, hosting in game publicity, and in general a better loot balance IS the best way to recruit new players in calypso and everywhere.
 
like i said, it s not my loot or yours, it s a general question.
Read around about EU in many forums and you ill see how is the game reputation.
And it s true it s not a game for all, we don t want billions of people around.
BUT
a better loot return for all, some lesser huge loot and more little loot for everybody according with time spending in game, dedication, activity etcetc i guess is not some the will hurt anyone......... and this is valid for who is making money and who is not.

So from where MA can bring those money?
well stopping to design the mobs 10 times, decreasing the uber loots and redistributing them, hosting in game publicity, and in general a better loot balance IS the best way to recruit new players in calypso and everywhere.

I doubt they can flatten out the loot, sadly. They need to have
a system where knowledge is important, so those that do know how
to use the system, gets better return...
 
my loot has been satisfactory for the past 2 years. ive actually made back almost all of my deposits, and i used to deposit like a mad man going on spending sprees like a child in a candy store with a credit card!

through trial and error and some lucky hofs im slowly turning a profit and getting back what i spent :) and im not even "uber", i havent even hit lvl 50 yet.

just play smart and spend wisely :wise: its not impossible to profit for a noob, its just significantly less then what the super ubers profit :)


P.S: im not going to tell you how to "play" :silly2: that is for you to find your way!
 
I can only support what some of the people in this thread said before. The loot is fine, actually - it is better than ever before as more and more loopholes disappear. The problem is with those players who think brainless bashing of everything that is a red dot on the map is a good idea. They blame the game mechanics instead of themselves for losing heaps of peds.

People who just want to have fun pay for entertainment. People who don't want to pay as much work very hard on getting to know the game as well as they can.

Chose your flavor, learn, evolve and be prepared to fail time and time again before you succeed.
 
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Since I stopped hunting for the swirly and started hunting for alittle MU the loot has been fine. I started spreadsheeting my runs and at 94% at the moment without a single global with 1000ped ammo turned over. That's a $6 cost for hours of skilling. Also the loot stayed really flat worst result 79% tt best 162%. On bad runs my ammo was returned to me almost to the exact PED. I only paid decay. On the good runs a significant portion of that decay was returned to me.

My result would of been better I think but the first 4 runs I was overprotecting with a 6ped defense bil, it was 1.98 ped on my last run.

Stopping hunting atrox was the best decision I Ever made in entropia. Defense bill was way to high and got next to no MU.

After posting this. I had two 50% runs and two 80% runs on Tiarak. It was like the loot Gods had heard my bragging :) lucky the MU on those hides is so damn nice :). Still at 90%+ return. If you pay MU and TT all your loot be prepared to pay for it. Back to my favorite calypso mobs.
 
very happy about the changes we get in EU over the years.
very happy about the new planets and land deed.
but the core problem persist: loot!
until MA will not fix, balance the loot EU will continue to be considered around like a scam.
They can add as many planets they want but them will not bring new players (and in effect despite rocktropia, arkadia etcetc the whole player base didn t increase)

so after all this years is or not time to take care about that too, seriously??????

you are way to generic with this statement. whats wrong with loot?
 
after a long breadk just finished Atrax 1k mission... not much ped turnover.. not a single global.... but got no looter and nob a
My TT return is ~50%

(i did hunt sporadically in team... over all those were break-even...... but solo doesn't matter it's arround 50% for the last 1 yr)
 
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Joke incoming...

Loot got fixed yesterday:

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Clonin' the Hoffin' movie rights available !

Viewer discretion is advised.
 
problem is that is very easy to spot the (few) good loot return............. in the other hand is very difficult to plot the bad ones.
 
Do MA really want a big player base or just big spenders?

very happy about the changes we get in EU over the years.
very happy about the new planets and land deed.
but the core problem persist: loot!
until MA will not fix, balance the loot EU will continue to be considered around like a scam.
They can add as many planets they want but them will not bring new players (and in effect despite rocktropia, arkadia etcetc the whole player base didn t increase)

so after all this years is or not time to take care about that too, seriously??????

I think all players have seen a massive decrease in return, those who watch every pec and treat this game as a business may perhaps reduce the losses. But the feedback I hear from Miners, Crafters and Hunters is that the loot balance stinks. This is a game, we do expect to pay MA for the entertainment, we do expect them to take a profit and monies towards R&D, but we do not expect to feel ripped off.

As a hunter, if we want to hunt daily (TT or otherwise), we now have no choice but depo. Even the monthly depo crowd are now spending a lot of time in sweat circles, to try and stretch the budget.

Where they rebalanced loot, they seem to have totally forgotten the rule of all casinos, it's the regular small wins that keep the gamblers at the table, not the mega wins.
They need to increase the smaller globals and decrease some of those ludicrously large ATHs, this is what will encourage the players to stay. Give us hope!!

I had forgotten until last night the glorious feeling of a multi global hunt. A less experienced socmate and I hunted Trox (Breer M3a's) and in approx 2.5 hours of hunting we received 6 globals totalling 572ped and other loots were not bad either. Starting with around 200ped ammo each, after decay & restocking ammo, we both returned a profit of around 70-80ped I believe.
We were euphoric :wtg:

I am regular hunter and I can't remember the last time I walked away with a significant profit. I have become accustomed to being grateful if the losses aren't more than 50% (and they have been - often). Yet last night brought a rush of memories of hunting the same mob, same place around 10-12 months ago, with the same result on a regular basis. Obviously not every hunt, MA clawed it back in due course but it was the pleasure of a successful evening that kept us going.

I already depo more than I consider reasonable yet, more and more, I find myself having to choose between another depo so I can hunt, or hiding away in a service centre chatting in pm, healing at a swunt, or skilling on a Mothership.

As General of NBK Army I should be out there teaching hunt skills to soc, hunting with friends, enjoying the game - instead I dread the pm asking me to go spend more than I can afford and the risk of offending others by an apparent unwillingness to join them.
I feel guilty asking my Colonels to run hunts, knowing that in the current climate it is going to cost them more ped than they can perhaps afford.
To be brutally honest, if it wasn't for the soc, I think I may by now have reduced my game-play in EU to occassional forays. I'm not bored..it's a fantastic game..but can I afford it?

Come on MA redress the balance..the founders of several successful companies know the adage 'pile it high, sell it cheap'. If you expect us to pay little but often we can accept that, but continue with this greed and new planet or not, more and more players will walk away. There are after all several new launches of known good games due this summer.
 
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