wobbledag
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Truth be told, you're 100% wrong.
Sweat has tt value?
Truth be told, you're 100% wrong.
Sweat has tt value?
Okay, sure, it has like a thousandth of a pec or something ridiculous like that. Not enough to where it's going to have an impact on the economy. For all intents and purposes it has no TT value...
.001 ped
.001 ped
Now multiply that 1K by 100 and you made 1 PED. Multiply that by 100 fold and you have 100 PED. Multiply that by 100 again and you have 10000 PED. Multiply that again by 100 and you have a million PED (or about 10,000 dollars USD)
So then should the cheaters be allowed to siphon off even 1 ped worth just by using an exploit? I mean think about it.. that 1PED that is being siphoned off by a sweater is in fact anyone's PED (whether they Depo or not)
Also today I noted in PA that someone was buying sweat at .30/100 and fruit at .40/100. (So would you rather want 1K of sweat? Or 1K of Fruit?)
After all if Fruit has more value than sweat, I think I would rather spend days looking for fruit rather than sweating.
BenCoyote--
There's still the server resources and bandwidth these leeches use. That adds to the amount that MA has to pay for each legit user, and it also adds lag to the system as these unattended avatars take processing time on the servers away from legit players.
I wonder when will people understand that it is not the lost sweat tt value that is destroying Mindark's vision of how EU should be like...
Care to define what's a "legit player"?
Those not utilizing the server border exploit or other EULA violating techniques in order to accomplish their in-game activities.
Those not utilizing the server border exploit or other EULA violating techniques in order to accomplish their in-game activities.
So scammers = legit players??
According to the EULA, there are no scams, only people who trade items against 0.00 PED
And there is more: the EULA doesn't even mention "server borders", only "bug exploits" - who knows, server borders are maybe a feature?
Seriously, i can understand that this is maybe not fair for people who sweat their mobs "by hand", but this is the 2nd thread, meanwhile the 8th page on something as trivial as this...
oh wait... i accidentially read (morover, even posted in) the sweating subforum?
Wait, we have a sweating subforum on EF???
What for, ffs??
2009-06-12 14:27 Entropia Universe Support:
Hi,
Thanks for the screenshots. It is indeed an exploit. We can not comment on actions taken on other participants or on decisions made by management. This being said, if you suspect of someone using an autoclicker please give us the name of the Avatar to investigate further.
Thank you for your patience and participation in the Entropia Universe.
Kind regards,
Entropia Universe Support
.001 pec, or .00001 ped, or .000001 dollars US
Just FYI:
Vibrant sweat is 0.001 PEC per bottle.
The people who you're seeing say "this is not a big deal" are simply hard headed and are refusing to accept the facts. For the most part, they've read it all before and just deny the facts so that they can "argue" the topic.
And there is more: the EULA doesn't even mention "server borders", only "bug exploits" - who knows, server borders are maybe a feature?
Fine, fine - it's an exploit (not that i had a doubt about it )
Why be ignorant and make invalid points?
I'm sorry, I just don't see what the point is to argue invalid points, especially when you already know you're wrong.
simply answer that question: Who has to take action against exploiters, who's duty is that?
But if Mindark does nothing...
Players have to do something.
And if your answer somehow contains your own sorry ass, you should better not call me ignorant...
So are we required by the EULA to take action? No, nor should we be, but are we encouraged to do so in the name of fair play, and as an assistance to our fellow players? I would put it to you to decide, but my own personal thoughts on the matter are that the answer is an emphatic yes.
And in what way is that "action" different to lynch law - what people do when they shoot the exploiters "endless sweat mobs" is technically nothing else but harassment - something that has lead to temp-bans before.
So, in the name of fair play, against who you want me to take action?
Against the exploiters? Or against the ones harassing?
Not so much a lynch mob as it is a citizen's arrest
Your clothes match just fine, wobble.
Now as to the lynch mob issue...again. The only EU equivalent would be if players actually had the ability to ban another player's account.
a citizen's arrest involves, as you said, detaining a criminal, but this also includes hindering the criminal from committing the crime until the authorities are given the proper time to respond and take appropriate action.
I think that describes the border patrol quite accurately.