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Is it me, or has tiering of UL items slowed to a screeching halt? My FF8kM, Fap-110 and certain other items have barely moved for months now.

My fap has gone through 2 full reloads (over 250 TT of use) and remains at tier 1.6

Perhaps I'm just not active enough? I understand that tiering is harder for each level, but to come this slow before tier 2 seems....

Please don't post "yeah, MA sucxxorzz!!1" posts. Just give proper examples or input if you have any. Thanks.
 
thought so

I thought so too, but then the other day I tiered up a bunch of stuff.
My marber finally went from 1.4 to 1.5, that's taken months.
I upped my Jag Foot from .9 to 1.3 (With the MUCH appreciated help of Buzz! TY Ty TY:yay:)
And finally Gremlin thigh finally went to .9 and I promptly upped it to 1.0

So one week ago I would say I had that feeling. I thought something was wrong with the marber.
 
Yes, its been that way for months. Happened a little after the first OF105 hit tier 10, within about one week of that an update happened and it slowed way way down.
 
.5 and higher usually goes faster than .1 to. 4
 
It goes painfully slow, but mainly because it is a rather random independent event probability. I had a weapon stuck on tier 4.7 pretty much throughout my entire aurli mission, only to go to 4.9 within 10 minutes toward the end.
 
my cb24 has been stuck at 5.8 for months now,
i bought an ml35 a couple weeks ago and thats stuck at 3.2 also

none has moved in past weeks
 
I think the problem is the tiering system is just much too random. Sometimes I have days where things will gain a few points, and other times I go for maybe a week without even getting a point. I don't think it has slowed recently though as far as I can tell.

For instance I just got my urban to tier 2, which took several thousands of ped to achieve. Within a day I had it to 2.3 with under 500 ped ammo.

Armor however is another case altogether, I completed all of my set except helm to tier 1, now it's been 2 weeks and have only received a point on one of the pieces. I tend not to worry about eco on my armor because I'm just trying to tier it up, so I get at least 3-4 hours of actual hunting a day out of it.
 
I have a weapon in the 3's with high TIR that is currently not budging... seems slower than some months ago with other weapons.
 
I've found that most of what I've been using has maintained a pretty average tier rate. I think, since its random, like a lot of what takes place in the game, some people are just hitting bad luck on their tier rates.

I believe that tiering should have a more static rate, its a bit whack that one person can tier up their armor (as an example) quicker than the guy next to them, while doing the same thing. If I buy an item, I would like to have a better idea of when I'll be hitting the tiers. It would make me more assured in what I'm investing my PEDs into.
 
my fap90 is stuck on 3.8. has been for more cycles than i can remember (probably 20 or more full repairs)
 
my Adj outbacko take from tier 2,0-2,1 4 months

2days ago afther some 5 monhts i get 3,3

others tier up usualy some month

and i working on it since tier up change no second item needed
 
My RE-105 as told in my thread, been stuck at 1.8 for like 5 months.
It went smoothly from 1.0 to 1.8. Took maybe few weeks to reach it, but then it stopped totally!
Maybe its bugged? MA ignored my support case, so then I gave up. But I'm really pissed. Whats going on?
 
yes, they dropped the tiering speed (again)
 
I've had numerous items stuck between 1.0 and 1.9 for many months. even some new items (from greece) had been moving along respectfully until they abruptly stopped around 0.5 and haven't moved since (this may have been after the first space update, if I remember correctly).
 
Dont think so

I have been tiering alot of my gear for the past 6 months.. During this period i cant find it go any slower.

Only thing that makes it slower is higher tier your trying to get. At 3.x and up it goes slower each time Alot. Maybe took me 2 month getting my gun from tier 4-5. Now im at 5.7 on gun. Thats around 1.5 month later.

Just gotta play alot if u guys want those tiers. Wanna tier armor, go and bomb some merps at Atamis.

i shoot around 4k shots each day with my gun.
 
Xpl0jd said:
I have been tiering alot of my gear for the past 6 months.. During this period i cant find it go any slower.

Only thing that makes it slower is higher tier your trying to get. At 3.x and up it goes slower each time Alot. Maybe took me 2 month getting my gun from tier 4-5. Now im at 5.7 on gun. Thats around 1.5 month later.

Just gotta play alot if u guys want those tiers. Wanna tier armor, go and bomb some merps at Atamis.

i shoot around 4k shots each day with my gun.
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2009-12-18 21:47:29 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 0.1
2009-12-20 16:25:55 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 0.2
2009-12-20 16:33:19 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 0.3
2009-12-20 16:33:46 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 0.4
2009-12-20 16:35:27 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 0.5
2009-12-20 18:27:24 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 0.6
2009-12-20 23:39:57 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 0.7
2009-12-21 00:17:34 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 0.8
2009-12-21 00:22:21 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 0.9
2010-01-06 18:26:52 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 1.0
2010-01-09 19:59:45 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 1.1
2010-01-15 14:31:25 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 1.2
2010-01-15 22:48:47 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 1.3
2010-01-16 00:47:21 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 1.4
2010-01-18 18:32:05 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 1.5
2010-02-01 22:08:43 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 1.6
2010-02-07 10:22:23 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 1.7
2010-02-09 14:57:51 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 1.8
2010-02-11 01:34:54 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 1.9
2010-02-17 19:39:23 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 2.1
2010-02-19 14:34:35 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 2.2
2010-02-23 22:22:52 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 2.3
2010-03-07 23:51:58 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 2.4
2010-03-14 21:26:37 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 2.5
2010-03-14 23:18:12 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 2.6
2010-03-18 21:47:33 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 2.7
2010-03-31 01:34:07 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 2.8
2010-04-02 21:40:26 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 2.9
2011-01-10 22:17:29 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 3.0
2011-01-13 22:40:16 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 3.1
2011-01-25 22:18:14 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 3.2
2011-03-20 17:21:44 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 3.3
2011-03-28 20:29:59 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 3.4
2011-04-05 05:53:28 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 3.5
2011-08-02 20:17:35 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 3.6
2011-08-04 22:19:40 [Local] Your SGA Edition Guide Marber has reached tier 3.7

4 months between 3.5 and 3.6.
Reason for the long gap 2.9 and 3.0 was ofc the need of "second item" (that later was removed).
 
Xpl0jd said:
I have been tiering alot of my gear for the past 6 months.. During this period i cant find it go any slower.

Only thing that makes it slower is higher tier your trying to get. At 3.x and up it goes slower each time Alot. Maybe took me 2 month getting my gun from tier 4-5. Now im at 5.7 on gun. Thats around 1.5 month later.

Just gotta play alot if u guys want those tiers. Wanna tier armor, go and bomb some merps at Atamis.

i shoot around 4k shots each day with my gun.
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I dont play much since some weeks due to lack of time , but before i was hunting quite a lot...
I bring my gun to 5.2...
first tier was light speed , and as i was going up , tier was slower... something fine with me and logic...
I finally got tier 4.9 , did the upgrade , get to 5.2 , and since that no mouve...even after tons of kreltin , aurly , scip , trox ...i think i allready did shot more amo , since i am tier 5 , than i shot for 0 to 4.9.
It looks like it sudently stop to go up...
My GF gun , do exactly same , beside its at tier 5.1
so yes i think something did change...
 
ýep, my vigi has been stuck on 0.8 and 1.2 ~ for the last months really and i've been using it...same with my ewe ep 40 and a lot of other unL items i got. things really slow down after tier 1 i think and to be honest that's not bad as long as L things still tier fast
 
replay to all

yes so if its stuck?

I have been stuck aswell at one point. Took 2 months for a 0.1 tier. BUT the next ones went really fast instead. No one knows how it really works.. all i can say i dont feel it going any slower since last 6 months.

Only way it goes slower for me is tier rates, and higher tier ofcourse. i changed armor recently and to get it to tier 2-3 is exactly same as last one.

Just gotta play alot and you guys will get tiers. And no need to make it speed up anymore. Then all ubers will have tier 10 shortly and have nothing to look forward to.
 
Xpl0jd said:
yes so if its stuck?
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It's one thing if it's a nice uberitem, one thing that you would use anyway because it's the best of its kind. If you have a mod merc, imk2 or simular then you would use it regardless of how fast it goes up in tiers.

It feels a bit dull though if you use something trying to tiergrind it, and it's either slow (1), or if it's something that's relatively uneco (2).


(1) For instance plasma rifle so you can get a decent dmg/sec with it; slow reload means longer time to use it so longer time overall, and also harder to hunt regen mobs/mobs that might kill you in two consecutive hits.

(2) For instance Katsuichi determination that you want to tier up so you have a decent melee weapon at the time auction goes dry of good (L) ones.
 
My feeling is it has slowed down too although I've not noticed any real change particularly recently.

However, I think higher tiers on UL items take longer than lower tiers (so 0.0 to 1.0 is quicker than 1.0 to 2.0, etc) which could make it feel its going slower without the system having changed.
 
Jimmy B said:
My feeling is it has slowed down too although I've not noticed any real change particularly recently.

However, I think higher tiers on UL items take longer than lower tiers (so 0.0 to 1.0 is quicker than 1.0 to 2.0, etc) which could make it feel its going slower without the system having changed.
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That is definitely the case. But this was already so from the start. Decay of the item seems to also play a role in it. The higher the decay is for one use the faster it goes up.

With all the different tiers it is hard to give a good answer on approximately how many uses are need to go from one tier level to the next.
0 - 0.9 is usually pretty fast
1 - 1.9 already slows down but still is reasonably
anything higher seems to slow down a lot.

I also noticed that it sometimes seems to come in waves. I had a weapon stuck on 1.6 for approx 1k ped decay and then in approx 10 ped decay it went to 1.9.
 
i have noticed this... the only real reason i am hunting atm is to tier my nifl... and the damn thing isnt tiering :( at all... i should have gained .3 or so on my tier 4.7 (from tracking the last progress)

something has changed
 
Been skilling the heck out of the tango on several different mobs and i too have noticed that the tier has been stuck on 2.6 for four whole decayed tango's and i got it to 2.6 about 10 days ago now.. Seems like it isn't budging with this last update. I thought perhaps MA put the kebosh on perhaps only the tango because of that bug but looks like it is effecting all weapons.. If it slows down this much for the tango might as well just give up after tier 3 because looks like it will cost me an absolute fortune now to reach higher level tiers.
 
Assuming we're right and MA has slowed down tier rates, what would their reason be?

In general higher tiered items cycle more PED per hour than lower tiered items (I know some don't, but these are vastly outweighed by the effect of the popular damage enhancers), and surely more PED cycled per hour is good for MA?
 
To me it looks like it slowed down with the removal of the secondary item needed.

I got my Gremlin since tiering was introduced to 1.x+ on all seven parts. Right before the change, my harness got to tier 2. Since the change I just can remember the gloves and footies to have moved a point. No idea about the timespan though. And just lately can't find a reason to log on anymore.

Can't think of any sound really other than the usual "if it takes longer to tier an item, people will cycle more peds on it for use just to tier it". If the Marbers would tier fast, people wouldn't do Marber only hunting for example. But who can tell the reasons? I cannot understand why they don't have UL items dropping anymore. I would hunt and deposit like 100+% more if I had a chance to upgrade my gear via looting. And...and...and...and...

More of it I don't understand what in heavens name is so damn secretive about telling the tiering routine, but personally I think it is random. My Adj 2722 was silent for weeks when I was hunting Argos and one evening just after login two points moved on the very first shots. If you ask me, its random.
 
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another 10k decay another day of no movement on the blade
 
Yup i think either they slowed it down or its bugged. My opalo sga is stuck at 3.7 and i cycled shitload of peds with it. I would say it was easier to tier it up from 0 to 3.7... only thing that calms me down is that enhancers are in 95% cases destroying eco (imo)
 
For the record, my LR53 has got from 3.7 to 4.2 since the Eomon came (two shooting increases, tiering took it from 3.9 to 4.2).
 
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