DanielleYourMom
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I didn't get a spanking!!!!
Stop pretending .. you know you wanted one
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I didn't get a spanking!!!!
There was no official reason that Twin became the place where pilots sold flights, but like a lot of things, a convention was created to fill the void and here we are.
Momentum dictates that unless there is a compelling reason for the change, it be allowed to continue as it is. Besides, if you remove the pilots from Twin, you will find that the lag remains (at Twin).
Some people have suggested that some pilots start selling from different cities, for instance -- or use agents that advertise in some cycle. To this I say "why?"
When the pilots are easily found in one spot, it's a good thing for everyone. It might be better for them (eventually) to have a less congested spot, but convention has already been established, and we all have to live with that.
I could probably say that *if* they were in a less congested spot, it wouldn't matter which channel they used. But that's a different issue -- oh wait, that's this issue and it brings us back on topic!
Seriously, I want the pilots to be happy and find the customers they want. It would be harder for that to happen unless there was some way to post a notice of where they would be. MA could do this by posting a sign near all the TP's advertising the "agreed upon location" for certain activities like this. Such an advertisement should be free, ofc, since it's for everyone's benefit. However, I don't hold out any hopes of seeing this happen, and better recommendations have already been made that would help the pilots to better service their customers (us).
Actually I wished that Pilots would not hang out in Twin advertising, since now Twin is the lag capital of the game. Why not hang out in some place like Hadesheim C.
because nobody goes to Hades ?
You can't sell flights to technicians
Well since someone has already claimed the rights to make the rules for chat in twin, this has forced me into a decisive decision!
I hereby claim sole rights to make the rules for the cnd chats!
1. The trade chat on CND shall be used only by people using the trade terminal..what else would a trade channel be for?
2. The main chat shall be reserved for pilot and reseller spam ONLY.
3. Anyone caught chatting in the main chat shall be siezed and tackled to the ground!
4. The Soc chat is only to be used for those people attending a sock hop in the CND Disco....soc is just short for sock.
5. The Team chat shall be used only for those who like to team up on various spammers with the sole purpose belittling them using every name in the books publicly.
6. If you feel the need to chit chat with your friends please be courteous to others trying to spam in the control room and use the private messaging system.
7. Any violations of these rules will result in a firm talking to by me!
I do hope this helps to avoid any chat rule conflicts in the CND chat in the future.
How about "Pilot @ vote - flight details in trade chat" in local chat or something along those lines? And the actual prices, destination, seats available, etc in trade chat.
I personally would be quite happy with that, it gets the message across to anyone who's forgotten to turn trade chat on when looking for a flight - as you pointed out - but what does everyone else think?
Is this a workable idea and if so, how can we improve it to get the best result for everyone?
Well since someone has allready claimed the rights to make the rules for chat in twin
yes your right danielle i was going for drama not humor..and ty for the neg rep
that passes for 'conversation' in the ring most of the time."Backstabber"
"I hate you"
"I hate you more"
"You're gay"
Pilots could simply get together
Nobody's whining - I'm so damned tired of anytime that anyone voices an opinion and asks for feedback from others , there's always someone with the generic response - "omg you're whining."
As I replied to Shocky, something short and to the point and not intrusive is far less annoying than the multiple lines that both you and YourMom have mentioned."Selling - 3 Tickets - 20PED @ Vote" - That's the message format i used to use, and i find it acceptable. I agree that multiple lines should not be done as there is no real cause for it.
While I agree that some of the local chat, the insults, etc, are mindless drivel I'd argue against that generally being the case. There's been many discussions about clothes, mobs, bugs, makeup, weapons, people, politics and many other topics of conversation that people wish to chat about.Pheonyx said:What goes through all chat is generally mindless drivel spouted by the ring contenders/hangers about, and traders don't moan towards you to keep it in your pm's.
As well as being a long established trading town, Twin is also a long established PvP town, so I think that argument applies equally well to both sides. Twin has the advantage over other rings in that there's a revival and storage conveniently close to the ring to make it the most useful place for PvP. And moving from Twin to another location to chat and then back again involves a lot more than a simple mouse click which is all that's needed to change to the appropriate chat channel.Pheonyx said:Furthermore, about moving location. Why don't you just go to another city rather than the others? You know when going there that it is a long established market city, so if your not into trading, why not use another ring or another place to chat?
I think you'll come to the same conclusion as the refusing pilots or traders.
"Who are you to tell me how to go about my business?"
I disagree that that is the point. To me the point is that MA introduced the trade channel specifically for trades, these being the exchange of PEDs for goods and/or services. I do remember what a nightmare it was trying to hold a conversation in local chat before trade chat came in, searching for one ava name and their reply as the trade spam scrolled up the screen so fast as to be virtually unreadable. And yes, it is a lot better now.Pheonyx said:And surely that is the point in the end. It's not hurting you, not even inconveniencing you as much as it used to inconvenience you because half or more of the trading spam is gone to the designated channel.
Off-Topic:
What? So you can all just start your "we hate pilots" parade again?
Maybe they would do something in agreement if you all hadn't done your utmost to slate the entire pilot population with insults and claim we were all scammers or mafia/cartel thugs and made accusations of price fixing and sabataging anyone we didn't agree with because of the actions of a few individuals.
Not sure wether to be pissed off at the suggestion pilots working together and how were cruicified over rumour and hear-say or laugh at the sheer rediculousness of it. "Be carefull what you wish for, you just might get it."
Right now the pilot side of me is saying, "Fool me once, shame on me.."
On-Topic:
I have many stances on wether pilots should use it or not even though i was only just made aware of it when reading this, but it's not worth the bother giving them out, so all i'll say is this:
"Selling - 3 Tickets - 20PED @ Vote" - That's the message format i used to use, and i find it acceptable. I agree that multiple lines should not be done as there is no real cause for it.
What goes through all chat is generally mindless drivel spouted by the ring contenders/hangers about, and traders don't moan towards you to keep it in your pm's.
Furthermore, about moving location. Why don't you just go to another city rather than the others? You know when going there that it is a long established market city, so if your not into trading, why not use another ring or another place to chat? I think you'll come to the same conclusion as the refusing pilots or traders.
"Who are you to tell me how to go about my business?"
And surely that is the point in the end. It's not hurting you, not even inconveniencing you as much as it used to inconvenience you because half or more of the trading spam is gone to the designated channel.
It really gets boring watching all these self-appointed guardians of truth and morals appear every now and again and blowing the tiniest of things way out of proportion because forming an opinion is so rare to them that it must be capitalized upon, when in the end, it doesn't matter at all. Get a life people, it's only a game. If your life is so stressful that you must take it out this way, or so empty that you must gain importance this way, i have to say that i quite pity it.
People are far far far too soft these days. Not that the current culture of our society doesn't encourage it. It's pathetic how we whine about every little thing.
I'm a sort of mixture between tired and bored right now, so my post probably lacks the usual level of restraint i would impose and may come across as insulting. Sorry if it does, but i do think this "issue" isn't really an issue at all, just a nice sign that if this is all you have to complain about, MA are losing their touch.
And DYM - i wasn't counting you in the "self-appointed guardians..." part, as you made a valid point and didn't say we should never use it, just not over spam.
YourMom; said:I agree with those that said if you see someone looking for a flight, by all means let them know you're flying. Or to maybe say "Selling seats to space @ Vote" once every 10 or so minutes - not a big deal.
Serica; said:I agree that using 4 lines of chat/message is over the top - and counter-productive really, cos I find its usually harder to read.
Mostly I only repeat once every full chat window using trade chat, tho I will intersperse that with local chat at times - especially when someone who regularly flies comes thru the tp.
Thats one full chat window including ALL chats, including soc and global.
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Why use Twins ? Cos thats where people come looking for a pilot.
Pink and Mylcat both tried using PA.
As I recall, it took only a very short time before they were back in Twins, due to lack of custom in PA.
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Frankly, I find the trade-in-local-chat far less irritating than the
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"Backstabber"
"I hate you"
"I hate you more"
"You're gay"
that passes for 'conversation' in the ring most of the time.
But sadly, I dont get to turn that off, cos I need to have local chat on in case people ask for a flight.
I guess what it comes down to in the end, is having a little consideration for others.
I have to say that this has to be the utmost in mindless drivel I have ever seen on any forum, pls someone outline a comment with any sense in it in this quote I got lost after first paragraph
Yes I agree there that an occasional flipside to public is fine or letting someone looking know that flights are available... ..the incoming and outgoing avatars in Twins don't come and go that quickly. If they do they are not looking for a flight are they?
This is not the converstion most of the time in Twins by all the people that frequent the ring. It is a select few...
One last point when noobs tp in and see pilots spamming in public chat they then believe its okay to spam trade in public chat... Same goes if they see traders using public chat which is why I go out of my way to remind people. If those that do remind others, didn't. We would have a public chat chock a block full of trade spam just like before the trade channel was introduced.
1."Selling - 3 Tickets - 20PED @ Vote" - That's the message format i used to use, and i find it acceptable. I agree that multiple lines should not be done as there is no real cause for it.
2.What goes through all chat is generally mindless drivel
3.traders don't moan towards you to keep it in your pm's.
4.Why don't you just go to another city rather than the others? You know when going there that it is a long established market city, so if your not into trading, why not use another ring or another place to chat? I think you'll come to the same conclusion as the refusing pilots or traders.
"Who are you to tell me how to go about my business?"
5.It's not hurting you, not even inconveniencing you as much as it used to inconvenience you because half or more of the trading spam is gone to the designated channel.
6.when in the end, it doesn't matter at all.
7.It's pathetic how we whine about every little thing.
8.this "issue" isn't really an issue at all, just a nice sign that if this is all you have to complain about, MA are losing their touch.