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Suggestion: Sick of bots

Sulje said:
I am always saying we should have an mobile app, where you can add amount of peds you want to cycle, select the mob, and simulate the hunt - no time wasted :)

Also its a waste of money to upgrade to ue5, this game should upgrade to browser game, it fits it more.
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This is so true! I fear if MA does implement an auto hunt feature similar to the crafting auto click, what is stopping this game from evolving/devolving into a browser text based game?
You setting the bot to kill a certain mob at a certain location is the same as you typing Kill "exarosaur" at "swamp camp". Use weapon "m2100" with amp "zx sinkadus". Use ammo "100ped". Press enter then get a return text with the result.
For this reason, I am even more strongly against botting. I really hope MA will enforce this no botting rule and don't implement auto hunt feature.
 
Will throw it in here as well, wrote for the other thread https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...ot-interfere-with-another-players-play.286226
in my opinion the bots that are inside the instances is a bigger issue than then ones outside, as of the scale of uses and turnover difference it makes

We are already seeing huge action since Helloween Mayhem, there were very observable cases of 24/7 in both, and events/instances even before that.
the new format of seasonal Mayhems is escalating this 24/7 bots issue a lot
1. they have simple MU in form of tokens and boxes, with items currently selling for 300k+ for tthe first ones who can get enough tokens - with the ones able to do 24/7 with biggest dps as frontrunners
2. they are instances, where spawn is not an issue + noone can really observe for silly actions of automation / be annoyed about bot taking their mobs

Overall, sure MA made it very easy with F to automate. without much scripting needed, then made it worse with instances
Yet what we are able to observe besides 24/7 are script mistakes in re-entering the instances / mob finding in case stuck. Same goes for repairing and throwing stuff in TT, automation scripting is most welcome and likely done.
But then MA made it much worse with these kind of instance seasonal events
In my opinion, affecting instance time / MU loot / tt return after some reasonable time per day (10h?), with clear rules on how much the limit is set to is the only reasonable way to balance this. Prventing scripting by user reports / observing user software is a road to nowhere.

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girtsn said:
Overall, sure MA made it very easy with F to automate. without much scripting needed, then made it worse with instances
Yet what we are able to observe besides 24/7 are script mistakes in re-entering the instances / mob finding in case stuck. Same goes for repairing and throwing stuff in TT, automation scripting is most welcome and likely done.
But then MA made it much worse with these kind of instance seasonal events
In my opinion, affecting instance time / MU loot / tt return after some reasonable time per day (10h?), with clear rules on how much the limit is set to is the only reasonable way to balance this. Prventing scripting by user reports / observing user software is a road to nowhere.
P.S.
its funny to observe that noone of the top turnovers is saying anything on topic while usually being so concerned about the bad percepttions of the game. cat, tongue, anyone?
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As mentioned several times before the new F to automate, lifesteal rings and seasonal events new format all show that MA pave the way for making botting easier.

It was first presented that F to interact and the new camera system will make the game easier and user-friendly. But as time progress and the lack of communication from MA with this escalating issue with increase bot activity makes one think that MA accept botting as a way to increase turnover in game.

The one thing MA seem to not understand is that no communication is also communication. Their passive stance toward botting and lack of even commenting on it shows that they either accept it since it creates a beneficial situation for them or that they do not care or not have the resources to handle the escalating situation.
 
MA has a clear position... can not distinguish 24h / 30 days bot from 5h F spammer.
Also will be good someone of them has to say what viagra he uses for the Mayhems...
 
girtsn said:
Will throw it in here as well, wrote for the other thread https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...ot-interfere-with-another-players-play.286226
in my opinion the bots that are inside the instances is a bigger issue than then ones outside, as of the scale of uses and turnover difference it makes

We are already seeing huge action since Helloween Mayhem, there were very observable cases of 24/7 in both, and events/instances even before that.
the new format of seasonal Mayhems is escalating this 24/7 bots issue a lot
1. they have simple MU in form of tokens and boxes, with items currently selling for 300k+ for tthe first ones who can get enough tokens - with the ones able to do 24/7 with biggest dps as frontrunners
2. they are instances, where spawn is not an issue + noone can really observe for silly actions of automation / be annoyed about bot taking their mobs

Overall, sure MA made it very easy with F to automate. without much scripting needed, then made it worse with instances
Yet what we are able to observe besides 24/7 are script mistakes in re-entering the instances / mob finding in case stuck. Same goes for repairing and throwing stuff in TT, automation scripting is most welcome and likely done.
But then MA made it much worse with these kind of instance seasonal events
In my opinion, affecting instance time / MU loot / tt return after some reasonable time per day (10h?), with clear rules on how much the limit is set to is the only reasonable way to balance this. Prventing scripting by user reports / observing user software is a road to nowhere.

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100% agree!
 
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why they don't ban the player's account if he really has 24h activity? this is a sufficient that the player is a cheater
 
Vakaravix said:
why they don't ban the player's account if he really has 24h activity? this is a sufficient that the player is a cheater
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No its not, some people hire other people to play for them in the time they are sleeping or doing something important irl like working.
 
Pred said:
Hi I'm not one to moan but it's really annoying trying to hunt especially with melee and you have somebody in the same area afk just auto shooting. This shit should not be be allowed by MA outside of a solo instance like Moloch's or mayhem etc (I'm fine with that).

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I had good dealings with MA as I'm clear, concise and accept that I HAVE the burden of PROOF.

Would like to address something strange I been seeing a lot on this forum.
First thing that was done in this thread is break the ToU to talk about ToU. It's iconic of this forum apparently.

8. MindArk’s Rules of Conduct

d. You may not take any action, post, communicate, upload or otherwise use any content, including text, images and sounds, that MindArk, at its sole and absolute discretion determines to be sexually explicit, racially, ethnically, religiously or sexually offensive, hateful, vulgar, defamatory, libelous, harassing or threatening to another person or organization or otherwise objectionable. This includes communications in the Entropia Universe and in any other website or forum with connection to the Entropia Universe.

I dont see why people think that MA have to do our job for us.

Therefore I see 0 relevance of this thread seeing ToU are clear and the system in place is ignored by doing a thread instead ? Could make it a better place if players DID what they have to.

Here is PROOF:

8. j. You must immediately report errors and bugs in the Entropia Universe to MindArk whenever You discover them. You may not “cheat” or otherwise neglect to report errors or bugs, use bugs, slow connection, Internet latency, or other 'exploits' for own benefits or for the benefit of others.

It is not MA duty to diaper everyone who throw accusations without gathering PROOF.

By not recording them and gathering proof, you are therefore allowing them to exploit the game and are become an active participant into letting others exploit for their benefits. I would be very careful about what just publicly said on their own forum.

Record them, show them killing some of your mobs because they are afk hunting. Game Over.

DO IT! IT WORK!

I do it.

I am sickened by the amount of players that do not care about rules, do not even know them or even follow it themselves while complaining that those rules they dont care about are not working.

If at least players did their duty based on the ToU guidelines to make it better, the game would be MUCH better.
 
Vadio said:
In this case , mindark where my auto mine? option
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last time I checked.... when you click once on a claim with your extractor equipped - it automatically extracts until the claim is gone.... so auto mine is already there :D
 
halftoasted said:
I had good dealings with MA as I'm clear, concise and accept that I HAVE the burden of PROOF.

Would like to address something strange I been seeing a lot on this forum.
First thing that was done in this thread is break the ToU to talk about ToU. It's iconic of this forum apparently.

8. MindArk’s Rules of Conduct

d. You may not take any action, post, communicate, upload or otherwise use any content, including text, images and sounds, that MindArk, at its sole and absolute discretion determines to be sexually explicit, racially, ethnically, religiously or sexually offensive, hateful, vulgar, defamatory, libelous, harassing or threatening to another person or organization or otherwise objectionable. This includes communications in the Entropia Universe and in any other website or forum with connection to the Entropia Universe.

I dont see why people think that MA have to do our job for us.

Therefore I see 0 relevance of this thread seeing ToU are clear and the system in place is ignored by doing a thread instead ? Could make it a better place if players DID what they have to.

Here is PROOF:

8. j. You must immediately report errors and bugs in the Entropia Universe to MindArk whenever You discover them. You may not “cheat” or otherwise neglect to report errors or bugs, use bugs, slow connection, Internet latency, or other 'exploits' for own benefits or for the benefit of others.

It is not MA duty to diaper everyone who throw accusations without gathering PROOF.

By not recording them and gathering proof, you are therefore allowing them to exploit the game and are become an active participant into letting others exploit for their benefits. I would be very careful about what just publicly said on their own forum.

Record them, show them killing some of your mobs because they are afk hunting. Game Over.

DO IT! IT WORK!

I do it.

I am sickened by the amount of players that do not care about rules, do not even know them or even follow it themselves while complaining that those rules they dont care about are not working.

If at least players did their duty based on the ToU guidelines to make it better, the game would be MUCH better.
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Maybe you missed my comment...

Suggestion: - Sick of bots

1. Change in interaction. To expand the feature, if you are not in a party with someone and he shoots at a mob, even if he has made a hit, even if he is missed or evaded, then the next player just misses that mob when using the interact. If he is on a team, it will be even easier if the Leader...
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This happened between the two Mayhems, that's why I'm here and swunt, to safe my PED. As I wanted to spin more PEDs in order to increase my chances of Rare Token.

I'm not sure when I will be able to collect 3 Rare Tokens for Augmented Azuro, from 700-1000 HP mobs, but it seems that my chances decrease with each Mayhem bot... how do you suggest we report them?
 
The afk hunting and mining is what ruins this game, it takes away from the people who actually play, why sit and hunt for skills or markup when you can just use a bot or macro, essentially the same thing in this case.

Its beyond ridiculous at this point, people don't even care they just log on turn on the bot and there they go for 24hrs... The worst places are phasms, and cyrene as far as I can tell. Is this ever going to change or is it just forever a simulation program for whose macro performed best this month.
 
Angel O2 Mercer said:
The fact that you are having this debate is already very telling. In any other game if a person is found using bots they would be: first shamed by everyone, and second instantly banned by the developer.

But here we are, EU losing a little bit of its soul with every passing day.
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in a game where playing more = more revenue for the company, you are surprised that the company is not in a hurry to ban the avatars that play the most?
 
Can I ask this? Is there a bot for chat messages too? So you can get the bot to auto send messages to the trade channels for example?
 
Put in a support ticket about the afk nonsense. the response I got back was automating gameplay is against the rules, so this includes macros and or bots. Yet when you report people for doing it, there is obviously nothing happening. So I wonder if any of the "rules" in this game are actually enforced.

My best guess would be... No. Maybe submitting reports with video evidence of avatars in question or on the EU discord would eventually have an effect.
Just go to the phasms spawn south of Segna forest tp, legend has it there has been an avatar there hunting 24hrs a day for the last like 6 months. I bet his fingers hurt hitting f so much
 
RJ-Rob said:
Can I ask this? Is there a bot for chat messages too? So you can get the bot to auto send messages to the trade channels for example?
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Ofc! At current weapon prices ill write you one for 50k!

But no, seriously, yes there are and its like 3 lines of code. A little more if you want a gui, but even then, its 10 mins of work.
 
RJ-Rob said:
Can I ask this? Is there a bot for chat messages too? So you can get the bot to auto send messages to the trade channels for example?
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absolutely. Those spammers aren’t typing all of that garbage over and over.
 
Thark said:
Ofc! At current weapon prices ill write you one for 50k!

But no, seriously, yes there are and its like 3 lines of code. A little more if you want a gui, but even then, its 10 mins of work.
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Ok I see, thanks for letting me know, was just curious :)
 
Theocles said:
Put in a support ticket about the afk nonsense. the response I got back was automating gameplay is against the rules, so this includes macros and or bots. Yet when you report people for doing it, there is obviously nothing happening. So I wonder if any of the "rules" in this game are actually enforced.

My best guess would be... No. Maybe submitting reports with video evidence of avatars in question or on the EU discord would eventually have an effect.
Just go to the phasms spawn south of Segna forest tp, legend has it there has been an avatar there hunting 24hrs a day for the last like 6 months. I bet his fingers hurt hitting f so much
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My experience with the reports shows that MA starts something like revenge because you give them extra work.

Regarding legends / rumors about certain people, what i do is move it from one leg to the other, simply because the majority of players do not distinguish between a browser and the Internet, let alone what a bot is.

I've heard stories about a top hunter, but my personal experience shows that 24 hours in the game is not a bot, because of the late PM and the lack of global during this period. On the other hand, another top hunter soon shared his hunting data and the friendly atmosphere of 20 people in this forum immediately found excuses for this... simply because they do the same.

Would the MA impose even a temporary restriction on 10 TOP robots if their monthly total turnover is about 20 million ped... or would it be easier to shut the mouth of a little Dreamer with 500 ped per day who complains of flooding on the market from ALT and Robots... do I know?!
 
Deemer said:
My experience with the reports shows that MA starts something like revenge because you give them extra work.

Regarding legends / rumors about certain people, what i do is move it from one leg to the other, simply because the majority of players do not distinguish between a browser and the Internet, let alone what a bot is.

I've heard stories about a top hunter, but my personal experience shows that 24 hours in the game is not a bot, because of the late PM and the lack of global during this period. On the other hand, another top hunter soon shared his hunting data and the friendly atmosphere of 20 people in this forum immediately found excuses for this... simply because they do the same.

Would the MA impose even a temporary restriction on 10 TOP robots if their monthly total turnover is about 20 million ped... or would it be easier to shut the mouth of a little Dreamer with 500 ped per day who complains of flooding on the market from ALT and Robots... do I know?!
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I love when they respond to a pm like 6hrs later and say "oh sry didnt see your message." Or this is the best one "Hey I was just grabbing a drink quick, whats up"

I wish i could multi task to that extent, go grab a drink for 6hrs and somehow manage to keep hitting F on my pc from the other room, just need longer arms maybe..
 
out of curiosity, where do you find most of these bots hang out?
 
jwestonmoss said:
out of curiosity, where do you find most of these bots hang out?
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some are mining LA58, LA 60 or LA63 i found them but i waited for them to get out of the land and killed them , ofc they didnt revive lmao
 
I recently finished my cyrene fap mission faster by luring mobs to bot after i dealt most of dmg to them :) but its sad to see people wearing gear worth hundreds thousands peds boting 10h a day.
 
BBpunisher said:
MA doesn't care.
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Well, what we have today is a game where it's advantageous to hunt 20 hours a day in some scenarios. But we all know that no human can do that every day without sharing their avatar and/or botting.

I'm not hunting 20 hours a day, but if others are, I'm basically at a disadvantage if I don't bot. And so I might be inclined to start doing it. And then the next guy is too. And the next guy.

Kind of like when all the athletes start using performance enhancing drugs -- you're at a disadvantage if you don't use them, at least until some kind of enforcement starts happening.

The problem is, how does MA enforce a no-bot policy? I'm not that savvy on this sort of thing, but it seems like it would be hard to do. Not to mention they may already be stretched too thin.

Anyway...I'd say it's probably more complicated than just not caring.
 
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