At what price do you value boxes and tokens? Gratz on the result!For the very first time I think an actual results update during the month
Thank you all that motivated me going this far.
Enhancers, other used MU and events MU written down and wrapped up like a proper hunting log should, which brings this month to proper green.
GL out there!
November 2022 = +18,938 hunting (94.64% tt)
I did not value them, I sold them. To be clear, tokens were collected over the last events not only from November.At what price do you value boxes and tokens? Gratz on the result!
i cannot read the table there is not a visible aggregation of data to meand here the positive mobs (results with MU included significant profit)
can see it in the Google spreadsheet as well, but if I know people well enough, not many ever stumble there
a "run" is just an indication of how many ~4 hour iterationss of "hunting then write down results" were done, i.e. approximately how much time was spenti cannot read the table there is not a visible aggregation of data to me
first line if i see the -87 TT that should be at 97.66% = 3.733 original "run" i expect to have for 1615 "Runs" a total of 6.028.795 ped. This is not the case also including repair
sorry but i cannot understand the meaning of the various columns and how one is linked to the other
i understnad that the MV% is (the percentage of profit on MU items is 4.83% on average) vut this is my reading
all in all the only number that has a menaing is (TT return + MU extracted- cost to kill) / total ped cycled that explains a ratio of total return on the monster in percentage
can you please elaborate such a number in a column? it seems to me that pop dragons and osseo are most interesting
A cool read, but scary to read how you got burned on multiple items because mindark nerfs or alters ingame systems after introduction.
For some reason a lot of people fail to understand the difference between a 90 eff gun and 70 eff gun is literally 1.4% in TT returns. Saw some people complain about "80% tt returns" because they can't afford a loot 2.0 gun when its due to hunting outside their bankroll (big hp mobs). Even ubers have huge swings and need to cycle a massive amount on them to see EVFor instance now no matter if you have 100 looter or 85-90 eff you can have on big hp mobs a bad swing.
The answer is in his Original Postcounting everything you have with skills, items etc... are you up or down overall since playing and how much?
I mean you must have looted good items or won events etc..
This line is worth putting in a signaturethe only profit is the MU in this game, hof and globals means nothing but a smile
the only profit is the MU in this game, hof and globals means nothing but a smile
This line is worth putting in a signature
thanks! guess i got lost reading thru everything and did not see the obvious first post info - doh!The answer is in his Original Post
if we DISREGARD HIS valuation of time (Sorry Girts you are not supposed to be paid to have fun)
he got 38k USD return
and if he quits another 76k usd
~+38k$ return.
2) ~76k usd back (from selling items)
best case selling bulk avatar skills etc ~65k usd back (IT WILL NOT HAPPEN SORRY )
so.. he got 114.000 USD to have fun over the years. this is the baseline.
so he extracted over 1m ped Markup in the game
this is no bullshitting about over ammo return, this is dedication
the only profit is the MU in this game, hof and globals means nothing but a smile
is it an activity? not in 20 years , that would probably feed a family in some remote 3rd world economy.
i think that i played 13 years WOW and only have VERY VALUABLE remembrances, but no money back,
if i was here since 2008 when i made the account i dream to be able to realize 20% of his success story
that would be a small car in my garage and lots of fun.
I updated the OP now that the balance is pretty much fixed besides sales to be made, the numbers are quite different since last updateif we DISREGARD HIS valuation of time (Sorry Girts you are not supposed to be paid to have fun)
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best case selling bulk avatar skills etc ~65k usd back (IT WILL NOT HAPPEN SORRY )
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so.. he got 114.000 USD to have fun over the years. this is the baseline.
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the only profit is the MU in this game, hof and globals means nothing but a smile
have a look at my "unlucky breaks", represented by the red stretches in the 2nd post - and consider that I was paying $4 per hour to push through. honestly the biggest motivator to keep going at those times was not the game, but just reluctance to fire the shooters for whom it was the main income for all these yearsmy returns suck so bad i am on another fuck you MA break - last one was 9 months i think, and that was probably the 4th one - not happy - do the same.
honesty is what I aimed for with this whole hunting log (and on selfish level to show MA that the returns are as shitty as I claim at the worst times)ohh and thanks for being honest and showing that you profited - so at least we know you are honest and not fishing for an MA buy back
You have my biggest respect for what it's worth. Thank you for sharing this information with us, best of luck with your next adventure.I updated the OP now that the balance is pretty much fixed besides sales to be made, the numbers are quite different since last update
evaluating time spent as $ in the RCE economy is relevant is when you pay shooters to do the shooting for you, and indeed I have been paying 4$ per hour
sure, that is perhaps not what MA thought when they introduced the game, but it is RCE and that was my model because I have a full time job and still wanted to be competitive in my primary hobby
and, time is money in a RCE in my opinion, but it is just that, my opinion
the activity of hunting is extremely boring once you do it for ~8 to 10 hours per day which used to be very respectable until the new generation and then the bots arrived. what was funny to me is that we got so many complaints about shooting 24/7 while we were not even close, and now that it is the reality with bots, nobody really complains anymore bots ftw. - I could switch as I can surely develop it for my use but won't as that is where I draw a line
about skills sale, if it does not happen in the convenient way, I will try to chip out everything worthwhile, will see if and how that works
what actually came from my pocket over the years was 169k euros - quite somet of that is not salaries but deposits, so to say "he got around hundred thousand euros to have fun over the years" is misrepresenting a bit
absolutely right about MU - it has always been the main bread and butter, but TT was part of it since loot 2.0 for most serious players
have a look at my "unlucky breaks", represented by the red stretches in the 2nd post - and consider that I was paying $4 per hour to push through. honestly the biggest motivator to keep going at those times was not the game, but just reluctance to fire the shooters for whom it was the main income for all these years
honesty is what I aimed for with this whole hunting log (and on selfish level to show MA that the returns are as shitty as I claim at the worst times)
I hope with time you will get someone else publishing a hunting log with some spreadsheet supporing the claims, but I suppose not since it was a lot of effort and little appreciation
otherwise, legends about mega profit it is - same way it was for a long time before I started this in 2012
Does that mean the $4 an hour to hire shooters was included in the costs at the end of every month? Or was that kept separate?I could switch as I can surely develop it for my use but won't as that is where I draw a line
I think we all are really aware of the cycle to rise skills and how long it takes to manufacture levels.Reminds of gurus on social media channels. Starter players aren't calculating the amount of millions PED needed to reach this level.
hourly rate was never included in the logs, what kind of a hunting log / return % measurement would that be?Does that mean the $4 an hour to hire shooters was included in the costs at the end of every month? Or was that kept separate?
Also just out of curiosity whats the difference between the two that you draw the line there. Both methods achieve the same goal but one of them is free right? Botting yourself versus paying someone to bot on your account. Unless we arent talking about having a macro F spam here and you're talking about actual bots. Seems like people interchangeably use the term bot and macro though. No flame at all btw I love your log and been following since I started playing just wanted to hear your take on it
Anyone who uses the term bot when they mean macro or even F spam while watching movies can be safely ignored and their opinions disregarded.Does that mean the $4 an hour to hire shooters was included in the costs at the end of every month? Or was that kept separate?
Also just out of curiosity whats the difference between the two that you draw the line there. Both methods achieve the same goal but one of them is free right? Botting yourself versus paying someone to bot on your account. Unless we arent talking about having a macro F spam here and you're talking about actual bots. Seems like people interchangeably use the term bot and macro though. No flame at all btw I love your log and been following since I started playing just wanted to hear your take on it
You should check the Camo BGH drops from last summer on EL.I think a honest view on today's system.
A lot of the dynamics of the game went away with the more fair loot 2.0. So really chances of looting something wild or getting a big HOF appears to be quite low, making it very foreseeable that you're grinding away with little chances of hitting anything big.
Taking in to account how "lifeless" the combat gameplay is, there's no abilities to use or a need to fight, just click and press auto use button over and over again.
The excitement factor used to be the more dynamic loots, and even a noob could potentially loot a ML35 on a small atrax.
It just seems to be gone in 99% of the cases.
And they doo... do u even bother checking EL .. specialy when events lol.... top 20 dont sleepA bot will play literally 24/7
Plenty of new players looted camo arms during summer migration off young/mature longtooth.I think a honest view on today's system.
A lot of the dynamics of the game went away with the more fair loot 2.0. So really chances of looting something wild or getting a big HOF appears to be quite low, making it very foreseeable that you're grinding away with little chances of hitting anything big.
Taking in to account how "lifeless" the combat gameplay is, there's no abilities to use or a need to fight, just click and press auto use button over and over again.
The excitement factor used to be the more dynamic loots, and even a noob could potentially loot a ML35 on a small atrax.
It just seems to be gone in 99% of the cases.
Anyone who uses the term bot when they mean macro or even F spam while watching movies can be safely ignored and their opinions disregarded.
So how do you decide who is a bot and who is macroing? You could run a setup that doesn't need to repair for several hours with enough lifesteal to never need heals and just set an alarm every time you need to repair to do it yourself. Is this all of a sudden 24/7 botting thats frowned upon?A bot will play literally 24/7, it will repair your gun, it will heal you effectively, it will buy more ammo and convert shrap, it will play the game for you completely.
A macro just fucking presses F. There is no comparison.
this is exactly what I think is happening, as it is not that much of development, on top of the F mashingA bot will play literally 24/7, it will repair your gun, it will heal you effectively, it will buy more ammo and convert shrap, it will play the game for you completely.
I never said bots don’t existAnd they doo... do u even bother checking EL .. specialy when events lol.... top 20 dont sleep