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Which skills gives the most health... And how much?

np...I think we knew we were overestimating the effect of at least some skills so good to get some confirmation of that.

Vedder said:
Only attribute that will ever move when you chip is HP.
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Yes skills and attributes are unaffected by other skills and attributes. The only exception is HP which behaves more like a profession in that its value is determined by your progression in various skills and attributes.
 
I believe

I can confirm Courage at 320
At least for me at the moment :cool:


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[COLOR="Green"]A ->  Health 118  Courage 2929
B ->  Health 117  Courage 2627
C ->  Health 118  Courage 2628
D ->  Health 117  Courage 2309
E ->  Health 116  Courage 2308
F ->  Health 116  Courage 1989
G ->  Health 115  Courage 1988
H ->  Health 115  Courage 1669
I ->  Health 114  Courage 1668
[/COLOR]
 
About Zoology

I believe that I can write that it doesn't give HP
At least not in decent ammounts.

Meaning:
in a situation that it would require just 1 increase in the level of Courage to get a Health gain message, increasing more than 300 levels of Zoology failed in giving such message, so I can be sure that if it gives HP will be arround 1 per each 90000 levels
I assume that you agree that 0.1 HP per 9000 isn't much,
so since the FAP method doesn't establish a HP gain I would say that the HP gain due to Zoology is very very low, in case that it isn't 0.
 
I now can confirm that Perception gives 1 HP each 1600 levels.

At least with my attributes level.

I now believe that
Alertness, Animal Lore and Bravado don't give HP.

The data that I collect allows me to say that
if bravado gives HP it be at 100 less than what Perception gives.
if alertness gives HP it will be 1000 less than what Courage gives.
if animal lore gives HP it will be 1500 less than what Courage gives.
 
Just chipped combat sense from 0 to about 4500, raised 5 HP, so about oe HP per 800 lvl or so on this one
 
Kombinator said:
Just chipped combat sense from 0 to about 4500, raised 5 HP, so about oe HP per 800 lvl or so on this one
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The range is from 750 to 1125 then if it was 4500. Can you be more specific so we can narrow it down specifically?

Previously the range was 690-920 so i guess it's 750-920 now. CS is probably around 800 indeed.
 
I now can confirm that Rifle gives 1 HP each 1600 levels.
I now can confirm that Dexterity gives 1 HP each 800 levels.
I now can confirm that Athletics gives 1 HP each 533.3 levels.
(1600/3= 533.3)
 
I just chipped some drilling skill and these were the results:

TT of chip: 32.62ped
Drilling skill before:477.75
Drilling skill after:3122.12
HP before: 197
HP after: 198

I had a hp gain just before chipping this, so I was pretty much at 197.0
 
demoniac said:
I just chipped some drilling skill and these were the results:

TT of chip: 32.62ped
Drilling skill before:477.75
Drilling skill after:3122.12
HP before: 197
HP after: 198

I had a hp gain just before chipping this, so I was pretty much at 197.0
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So that's a gain of 2644.37, could it be that you are just shy of another HP gain and that Drilling gives 1500 levels per HP. I can't imagine it being as low as 3000 per.
 
Hmm so the range for drilling is 1322 to about 2650. That's kinda discouraging.

MG Mighty, you keep making all these statements without explaining anything about your data and methods. Perhaps you could enlighten us so we can verify the results? Some of it seems rather hard to know with the certainty you profess.
 
Doer said:
Hmm so the range for drilling is 1322 to about 2650. That's kinda discouraging.

MG Mighty, you keep making all these statements without explaining anything about your data and methods. Perhaps you could enlighten us so we can verify the results? Some of it seems rather hard to know with the certainty you profess.
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I will upload the screenshots in a thread that I'm making.
It's a boring process

I've shown a preview of what I'm making:
MG Mighty said:
I believe

I can confirm Courage at 320
At least for me at the moment :cool:


Code: 
[COLOR="Green"]A ->  Health 118  Courage 2929
B ->  Health 117  Courage 2627
C ->  Health 118  Courage 2628
D ->  Health 117  Courage 2309
E ->  Health 116  Courage 2308
F ->  Health 116  Courage 1989
G ->  Health 115  Courage 1988
H ->  Health 115  Courage 1669
I ->  Health 114  Courage 1668
[/COLOR]
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and it's costing me lots of PEDs so be patient.

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58637
 
MG Mighty said:
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Code: 
[COLOR="Green"]A ->  Health 118  Courage 2929
B ->  Health 117  Courage 2627
C ->  Health 118  Courage 2628
D ->  Health 117  Courage 2309
E ->  Health 116  Courage 2308
F ->  Health 116  Courage 1989
G ->  Health 115  Courage 1988
H ->  Health 115  Courage 1669
I ->  Health 114  Courage 1668
[/COLOR]
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Great info... Thx :)

Btw, are these numbers all after chipping? :eek:

MG Mighty said:
I now can confirm that Perception gives 1 HP each 1600 levels.
...
I now believe that
Alertness, Animal Lore and Bravado don't give HP.
...
The data that I collect allows me to say that
if bravado gives HP it be at 100 less than what Perception gives.
if alertness gives HP it will be 1000 less than what Courage gives.
if animal lore gives HP it will be 1500 less than what Courage gives.
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Cooool :cool:
However, I'd prefer the 'raw data' posted as well, since we all make mistakes, and in case you have made one, some of us might discover it, if you post the raw data as well as the conclusion.

But great info, thx :)

demoniac said:
I just chipped some drilling skill and these were the results:

TT of chip: 32.62ped
Drilling skill before:477.75
Drilling skill after:3122.12
HP before: 197
HP after: 198

I had a hp gain just before chipping this, so I was pretty much at 197.0
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:yay:
Finally some mining info, thx :)
 
AkiranBlade said:
So that's a gain of 2644.37, could it be that you are just shy of another HP gain and that Drilling gives 1500 levels per HP. I can't imagine it being as low as 3000 per.
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I can support that...i doubt it`s more than 1.5k drilling/mining for one hp point..or maybe i`m wrong :scratch2: ....or maybe not :scratch2: but if i am? :laugh: Well back to mining to figure this out :D

P.S. Blade where`s the ox cart maaaaan?I`m waiting that transport for ages u lazy shipping agent!! :silly2:
 
im glad i stumbled upon this. im adding this to the text file with my chipping plans :eureka:
 
Vedder said:
Great info... Thx :)

Btw, are these numbers all after chipping? :eek:
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Yes
It's a very expensive test that I'm making
I'm glad that you find it usefull

Vedder said:
However, I'd prefer the 'raw data' posted as well, since we all make mistakes, and in case you have made one, some of us might discover it, if you post the raw data as well as the conclusion.

But great info, thx :)
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Well I have to organize the few thousands of screenshots I've got so far so that the analysis of the raw data can be done by everybody.
And true that I make mistakes

They costed me over 200 PEDs so far in just counting my mistakes
(but those allowed me now to have more data to be sure, so they weren't a complete waste, just an unnecessary waste):mad:
(not counting the mistakes that I made assuming that the previous data was correct = had to spend more decay on the implanters to get near the true value)
 
Chipped out all my Dexterity (3468 skill points) --> HP dropped 4 points to 119.

Someone put it in and got 3 HP and gained 1931 points.

btw. the courage i chipped out: i lost 15 HP. The buyer got 8 HP. Dont know the exact HP he had but it was 'reasonable'.

Kyl
 
Kyl said:
Chipped out all my Dexterity (3468 skill points) --> HP dropped 4 points to 119.

Someone put it in and got 3 HP and gained 1931 points.

btw. the courage i chipped out: i lost 15 HP. The buyer got 8 HP. Dont know the exact HP he had but it was 'reasonable'.

Kyl
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Dexterity
693-1156
428-965

693-965 MG Mighty's 800 seems correct.
 
Good info guys...Thx.

Keep it comming :cool:
The table in the first post is actually starting to be quite useful. :)
 
News from the Chippers front:

Chipped out all my Athletics (6149 skill points) --> HP dropped 12 points to 107.

Someone put it in and got 9 HP and Skill went from 916 to 6023

Again I dont know the exact HP he had but it was 'reasonable'. (yes same guy :)

Kyl
 
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layla54 said:
i just screenshotted a health gain yesterday, looking back it was immediately before prospecting and geology (in that order). Strange thing is, i was about 500 in each........... all natural.

Anyone aproaching the 500 boundary in each watch closely
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Oops, somebody forgot to read the earlyer posts ;)
 
marcus said:
i lost 20 hp when i chipped out 3.5k commando
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Thx for the info Marcus.
Was it precisely 3500 Commando, or just somewhere around that?

layla54 said:
i just screenshotted a health gain yesterday, looking back it was immediately before prospecting and geology (in that order). Strange thing is, i was about 500 in each........... all natural.

Anyone aproaching the 500 boundary in each watch closely
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Thx Layla... But it doesn't work like that.
When you get your HP message for HP #100 for instance, you already had 99.9999 HPs, and that last skill gain merely pushed you that tiny last bit needed to hit the 100.

Exact HP gain information is gained when chipping. :)
Thx, for the attempt though ;)
 
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Vedder said:
Thx Layla... But it doesn't work like that.
When you get your HP message for HP #100 for instance, you already had 99.9999 HPs, and that last skill gain merely pushed you that tiny last bit needed to hit the 100.
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yeah, 21 pages to read coming back of holiday, mybad :(
 
I'm not into chipping but would like to bump this thread as it is the best on (by far) on EF ...

Can't wait to unlock the one (and other) skill that actually boosts my HP :)

ILW
 
Kyl said:
News from the Chippers front:

Chipped out all my Athletics (6149 skill points) --> HP dropped 12 points to 107.

Someone put it in and got 9 HP and Skill went from 916 to 6023

Again I dont know the exact HP he had but it was 'reasonable'. (yes same guy :)

Kyl
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i quoted my Athletics just to make sure u did notice it.

This time lost HP while chipping out Perception.

From 3397 to 1. HP dropped 2 points to 105.

And i added Whipper (Hit) to pewiki. there i saw Whipper (dmg) for Perception. Thats wrong. I cant delete that somehow.

Kyl
 
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Chipped out Serendipity.

From 4146 to 1. Lost 3 HP. Down to 102 now.

I added some Professions to wiki that where affected by Seren.

Kyl
 
Kyl said:
News from the Chippers front:

Chipped out all my Athletics (6149 skill points) --> HP dropped 12 points to 107.

Someone put it in and got 9 HP and Skill went from 916 to 6023

Again I dont know the exact HP he had but it was 'reasonable'. (yes same guy :)

Kyl
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Kyl said:
i quoted my Athletics just to make sure u did notice it.

This time lost HP while chipping out Perception.

From 3397 to 1. HP dropped 2 points to 107.

And i added Whipper (Hit) to pewiki. there i saw Whipper (dmg) for Perception. Thats wrong. I cant delete that somehow.

Kyl
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Kyl said:
Chipped out Serendipity.

From 4146 to 1. Lost 3 HP. Down to 102 now.

I added some Professions to wiki that where affected by Seren.

Kyl
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Great info, thx :)
 
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