well. loot has always sucked bigtime. MA only gives big loot to those regular handpicked players that serve as commercial poles for this game. People see how those few handpicked players get big loots with good insane MU UL weapons/armors etc and they want to get a shot at it themselves. But in vein....
Question: Why does my loot suck more than others?
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I can give you a few reasons why the top hunters global so "often" and so high.
1. They global or get multipliers likely as much as you. The difference is they cycle 5k peds a day and their guns allow that. Basically they hunt fast and thus get globals faster.
2. The mobs they hunt are high level. Mobs that tend to take a whole team to kill. As a result the mobs have much greater loot and in turn global more.
That is basically it to answer your question...
1. They global or get multipliers likely as much as you. The difference is they cycle 5k peds a day and their guns allow that. Basically they hunt fast and thus get globals faster.
2. The mobs they hunt are high level. Mobs that tend to take a whole team to kill. As a result the mobs have much greater loot and in turn global more.
That is basically it to answer your question...
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What if it's the other way around and they cycle a lot more each day because their "multipliers" are better by default which allows them to do just that?
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Oh right I forgot we are in the loot theories section lol. And also, they would cycle the same even if they had better multipliers (which they don't), they would just get better loot. There is a lot of into to back this up. Keep a log and record overall return. With hofs etc globals, it will be around 90% and likely won't differ.
Well, i have tried following hundreds of eco tips and setups. I always get around 50-60% returns sometimes worse. In very rare cases like 1 in 20 or so i can make a profit but its not much to write home about.
The loot is not dynamic.
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Here's the proof:
These are the top 25 hunters from EntropiaLife's Top 100 Hunters list. The last column (added by me) is the average value per global for each hunter.Code:Pos Name Value Globals AvgValue 1 MH Grave Digger 70214 / 454 = 154.656 2 James Jimmy Stryker 66099 / 447 = 147.872 3 Fat Fock Frank 63422 / 419 = 151.365 4 Girts Smilgs Niedra 64068 / 408 = 157.029 5 Angel Shadow Heart 59752 / 383 = 156.01 6 Liberty Tregidio EXR-5 49300 / 381 = 129.396 7 Fett Fett-Finnen Finnen 39844 / 356 = 111.921 8 Gray SnowLeopard Felix 35601 / 333 = 106.91 9 Lady Nadie Hawke 45944 / 332 = 138.386 10 Conny1303 Conny1303 Konika 45917 / 325 = 141.283 11 Cerb Hulk Beris 45309 / 320 = 141.591 12 one crappy player 38114 / 314 = 121.382 13 Adrelina Tasior'ek Unknown 35631 / 308 = 115.685 14 Trinity Trin Jam 37026 / 305 = 121.397 15 sir lance lancelot 44195 / 294 = 150.323 16 idvali idvali mosu 34780 / 288 = 120.764 17 Joan Xperia D 33833 / 286 = 118.297 18 Medea Adel Green 32055 / 282 = 113.67 19 JASON KID WRIGHT 32808 / 273 = 120.176 20 Portugal GoRpY SLBenfica 38053 / 268 = 141.989 21 fredrik freddex lubbe 30691 / 259 = 118.498 22 Kintradim KC Crux 29198 / 253 = 115.407 23 Herode Poupette Mathusalem 30709 / 250 = 122.836 24 Titof Greenwood Aries 54779 / 250 = 219.116 25 Akon TrusT Konvicted 38462 / 247 = 155.717 TOTALS: 1095804 / 8035 = 136.379
The overall average is 29.469 ped MORE than my average per global, which would translate to OVER 9000 PED in my pockets!(Almost 10k actually: 29.469ped * 333 globals = 9813.177 ped)
Even the next lowest average global value, Fett-Finnen at 5 ped more per global than me, would give 1600 ped more in my pocket.
This has nothing to do with my expenses to achieve this number of globals -- there's no doubt that several on the list have much lower expenses than I do, but that does not explain the non-neglible difference in raw returns.
I am anxious to hear all the bullshit justification people will come up with.... isn't 30 days and 300+ globals a good enough sample size? You're going to try to convince me that the so-called minis make up the difference?
U compare average global size who is very different depending of the mob u are hunting.
If u compare atrox hunter with for example daspletor hunter the difference will be huge but logical.
In fact when i check your tracker u are a very lucky hunter with good loot for me
Total Loot: 279 915 PED and your best is Highest Loot: 33 959 PED
I will just take mine in comparaison
Total Loot: 822 631 PED and my best loot is "only" Highest Loot: 9 310 PED
So why complain ?
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strange game... The only winning move is not to play...
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You are wrong and likely using too little data. Take a log and add it up. Over time you will get like 90%. If you are only getting 50-60% something is up or a big one is coming. You just have to stick through bad loot. Also it is stupid of you to focus on eco solely. Truthfully eco isnt the problem and eco is certainly not the bulk of the ubers profits. It is very important when you cycle lots of ped though.
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Op claims that his avatar is 9k - lets say 10k ped down since he started in 2006. so over 7 years he is losing 1400 ped a year in loot by this claim. that is about 120 ped a month, which is $12. I am very average hunter yet i will always buy 100 - 200 ped ammo on every run, so everyone of my small ammo run purchases are still larger than his claimed loss per month.
I just dont see the complaint, and i would die for 10k plus hof. I admit i have only been in game a couple of years and my biggest hof is only just over 1k. That missing 120 ped a month could be lost 10 times a month by a player even at my average level. Average loot is not taken into consideration either and at that rate of play even 1 or 2 % better than average return could easily soak up the missing 120 ped a month
I have noticed however that i tend to get a fewer number of globals than others but generally they are of a higher value. Generally i will global over 100 ped - i hardly ever get really big ones but then they are not 50 pedders either.
I reckon you will be out hunting a baby spider one day and a ATH will drop from it. Just stick at it snow leopard. Enjoy the game - its entertainment
I just dont see the complaint, and i would die for 10k plus hof. I admit i have only been in game a couple of years and my biggest hof is only just over 1k. That missing 120 ped a month could be lost 10 times a month by a player even at my average level. Average loot is not taken into consideration either and at that rate of play even 1 or 2 % better than average return could easily soak up the missing 120 ped a month
I have noticed however that i tend to get a fewer number of globals than others but generally they are of a higher value. Generally i will global over 100 ped - i hardly ever get really big ones but then they are not 50 pedders either.
I reckon you will be out hunting a baby spider one day and a ATH will drop from it. Just stick at it snow leopard. Enjoy the game - its entertainment
Here's the proof:
These are the top 25 hunters from EntropiaLife's Top 100 Hunters list. The last column (added by me) is the average value per global for each hunter.Code:Pos Name Value Globals AvgValue 1 MH Grave Digger 70214 / 454 = 154.656 2 James Jimmy Stryker 66099 / 447 = 147.872 3 Fat Fock Frank 63422 / 419 = 151.365 4 Girts Smilgs Niedra 64068 / 408 = 157.029 5 Angel Shadow Heart 59752 / 383 = 156.01 6 Liberty Tregidio EXR-5 49300 / 381 = 129.396 7 Fett Fett-Finnen Finnen 39844 / 356 = 111.921 8 Gray SnowLeopard Felix 35601 / 333 = 106.91 9 Lady Nadie Hawke 45944 / 332 = 138.386 10 Conny1303 Conny1303 Konika 45917 / 325 = 141.283 11 Cerb Hulk Beris 45309 / 320 = 141.591 12 one crappy player 38114 / 314 = 121.382 13 Adrelina Tasior'ek Unknown 35631 / 308 = 115.685 14 Trinity Trin Jam 37026 / 305 = 121.397 15 sir lance lancelot 44195 / 294 = 150.323 16 idvali idvali mosu 34780 / 288 = 120.764 17 Joan Xperia D 33833 / 286 = 118.297 18 Medea Adel Green 32055 / 282 = 113.67 19 JASON KID WRIGHT 32808 / 273 = 120.176 20 Portugal GoRpY SLBenfica 38053 / 268 = 141.989 21 fredrik freddex lubbe 30691 / 259 = 118.498 22 Kintradim KC Crux 29198 / 253 = 115.407 23 Herode Poupette Mathusalem 30709 / 250 = 122.836 24 Titof Greenwood Aries 54779 / 250 = 219.116 25 Akon TrusT Konvicted 38462 / 247 = 155.717 TOTALS: 1095804 / 8035 = 136.379
The overall average is 29.469 ped MORE than my average per global, which would translate to OVER 9000 PED in my pockets!
Even the next lowest average global value, Fett-Finnen at 5 ped more per global than me, would give 1600 ped more in my pocket.
This has nothing to do with my expenses to achieve this number of globals -- there's no doubt that several on the list have much lower expenses than I do, but that does not explain the non-neglible difference in raw returns.
I am anxious to hear all the bullshit justification people will come up with.... isn't 30 days and 300+ globals a good enough sample size? You're going to try to convince me that the so-called minis make up the difference?
I have had this same arguement soooo many times... NO ONE understands it! glad someone else sees what I see...
it is bullshit... and you are due for an uber or 2... that is what this means...
Yeah, i hope something big is up. I do like the game thats why i continue playing. It just gets discouraging loosing peds fast. I calculated and so far i have depositet a total of 14.653,4 peds since january 3rd.
Funny thing is, when i hunt in team with lucky players they always notice how the loot sucks badass. And i always tell them that i am an unlucky guy and i have always been. And this avatar is cursed.
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I get your view. Persistence is really key. Look at Strashes log or Strykers high level hunting returns log. It shoes this however the one that really shows this is Strashes mining log.