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Tyrone2006

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I feel Im getting RIPPED OFF Iv depoed thousands of USD and got F@#K all to show for it WTF. I use guns with SIB bonus and get F$%k all skills WTF. Iv had 8 misses ina row on a gun iv maxed (opalo) WTF.
 
Is it called mental breakdown? :scratch2:
 
If you've spent $1,000's of dollars on pure hunting (especially with just an opalo) and got f*** all, then I don't believe you.

Ok at first you my might buy some assets, such as armour, clothes, apartment, CLD's maybe. Excludes all that investment from your hunting activities.

How much is your store worth? Put everything you own in the TT machine and check the value. Or simplier log on to planet calypso and look at your "items list" for TT value of all items.

What you think is entertainment value and minus that from your total spend. What do you think is reasonable $5 a day to enjoy the game (average out)??

There have been many posts like this, a rant is fine, but need more details to point you in the right direction.

Rick
 
Same here i hunt & mine eco breer p5 104 amp mostly but that's not it.I see players on my Fl get big hof globals all the time in all the years playing i have had nothing really big where i could say i wont deposit for a month.There was talk of being lucky avatars but MA said no i call Horseshit.I think i'm gonna sweat a lot more as i'm fed up with the shit returns.Sometimes i can depo $100 but all gone in 2 days because of crap loot.My best solo was minning 1227 peds.I suppose i got over 100 games on steam to keep me amused.
 
You can't be losing that much PED at any one time hunting with Opalo. Hunt with my CB26 UL and cycle the number of PEDs I do then complain PED loss.

It would seem to me you are doing something wrong if you're losing THAT many PEDs at such a low level of hunting. However, in 9 years with all the PED I have cycled, my highest hunting loot is 2500.

You can't expect to win a game where gambling is the primary function.
 
Well, something is off here. Looking at your tracker you're hunting big trox, hogglo, houns... are you telling us you're using Opalo for that?
 
How many crits did you have after those 8 misses in a row? Typically it seems that if I get several misses in a row it's balanced out by a few criticals shortly thereafter...
 
I love threads named "WTF" so Imma whine too!! My biggest HoF has been 818ped and I've been here ~6 years!! wtf!!


I don't ever whine cuz I don't give a fuck, it's play time, fun, money I would otherwise spent on drugs =)
 
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here's the soundtrack for this thread :p

 
I think the 8 misses with Opallo is a separate point - but everybody misses the same amount on 10/10 guns. Are you using un-maxed L guns - thus the SIB reference - on big mobs?

A gambler's mentality leads to a gambler's results. All or nothing, but mostly nothing.


:beerchug:
Miles
 
Ummm try not to hunt Kingfishers with opallos maybe, I heard even though the gun is eco and all you just can't hunt them and be eco in the end.
 
I think you missed is point,but i may too..
He didn't complain about loots I will leave that to bullshiter fanboys who claim 90% return and gamblers who try to justify their own losses. Fact is you can profit or you can loose, be my guest.
What he mean is that he depoed, so he play the game, (not as some forum trolls) and skilled up to some point.
Then when he used an opalo, he got a 8 miss in a row with a clearly maxed gun. Come on, some of the above posters who don't complain here and bullshit the OP complained about missed shot in other thread, wtf !lol.
In my view i take missed shot with ease, i consider that there are some ninja mobs who dodge my attacks. I am even so positive that i think it is good an bring some fun by articially improving mobs AI which looks like irrlicht tutorials ones from 15 years ago wtf. Yeah, when i start missing a lots i give some respect to the mob!
However, i never had 8 miss in a row, i think 6 is my max.
 
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If you dont have any missed shots the next mob you shoot wont have any loot in it:yup:Then what:dunno:
 
You're doing it wrong... Way wrong. Plus, if you can tell you're going to have a bad hunt(usually it's not too hard to pick), why keep hunting? :-/
 
They way i see it if you have a lucky avatar you do well i have seen one new player on my fl that never deposited global hof & they way he was never will have to deposit.If you have a unlucky avatar your fucked.So you have 2 choices kill it & start a new one or quit because your just feeding the rest with peds.To me it's a lot of losses not much to show for.The game is more like shoot a mob maybe fap a bit & pray for a big loot.Loot used to be not bad in mining for me but in the last 2 years a total waste so i gave up.I'm level 33 pros so i should do half well.As it stand i can go play another game & shoot shit for free without having to depo every all the time.I have seen player that playeed from the start chipout & quit because of this crap & some where extremely high skilled & they get shit loot.They see a new player come in & do better than them.i used to deposit about $100 a week but all gone fast so i'm gonna sweat maybe hunt once a month now with maybe a breer2 & 101 amp till i get smething decent or quit.
 
I don't ever whine cuz I don't give a fuck, it's play time, fun, money I would otherwise spent on drugs =)

Bad kitty BAD!

No no I mean Good kitty GOOD!

Drugs are BAD M'Kay :)
 
I have 3 players i talk on teamspeak.1 of them hasn't deposited in years has 15k peds sitting in storage wins all the time.Another has mining finds all the time globals/hofs & goes hunts same thing & i'm not taking 200 peders more like 600-2k a lot of the time so he basically shits loot.Another started 2 years after me barley deposits mybe 3 times a year same thing 6k loot 12k loot etc.So i belive at the start of the game you avatar is locked into a category you get either good/mediocre/bad loot so for the life of your avatar if your in the bad loot your the poor schmo that pays for the rest & your av is fucked.I'm shure there is lots players that still play or quit will testify to that.
 
lol

Well, something is off here. Looking at your tracker you're hunting big trox, hogglo, houns... are you telling us you're using Opalo for that?
I might hunt those mobs in a team with a opalo but not solo come one I not that dumb or maby i am cause I depo and still play this game
 
drugs are cheaper

I love threads named "WTF" so Imma whine too!! My biggest HoF has been 818ped and I've been here ~6 years!! wtf!!


I don't ever whine cuz I don't give a fuck, it's play time, fun, money I would otherwise spent on drugs =)

The money spent on drugs would last longer and 818ped afyer 6 years WTF is a under statement
 
sib

I think the 8 misses with Opallo is a separate point - but everybody misses the same amount on 10/10 guns. Are you using un-maxed L guns - thus the SIB reference - on big mobs?

A gambler's mentality leads to a gambler's results. All or nothing, but mostly nothing.


:beerchug:
Miles

Not all the time normaly only use guns iv maxed but iv had guns were iv had YES for the sib bonus and got less skils than a P5a that iv maxed
 
lol

Ummm try not to hunt Kingfishers with opallos maybe, I heard even though the gun is eco and all you just can't hunt them and be eco in the end.

good one Id use a biger gun for a kingfisher
 
The most misses in a row i had with maxed sib weapon was 5. And even that happened only few times in my life.
But unless there's some miss "cap" it's theoretically possible to have infinite number of misses in a row :)
 
Misses etc

I personally find that my MISSES are based on a couple of things...

1) Lag
2) Average Hit Rate for the gun I am using

You see, the system knows what your average Hit Rate should be based on your skills, the gun you are using's requirements, and the attachments you've got fitted etc.

The game does not care what you get on a random chance to hit ... so in my observation it appears to just roll random numbers to see if you hit for a while. If you have a good chance to hit, or are just on an interesting random streak, you can actually hit many, many times in a row... And if you watch your hit rate with every shot, you can see yourself rising to say 85, 86% hit rate...

But at some point, it seems to me the game has a threshold after which it notices "your hit rate is too high for your skills". And then it seems to me like it forcibly adjusts your hitrate down again. It doesn't matter that you are maxed with the weapon - if you're in a hit-rate adjustment period, you can miss as many times as it takes for the weapon to even out it's hit rate.

If you mix in a little bit of lag (which often gives me "failed" messages mixed in with the MISS ones) you suddenly get a rather nasty period of sometimes up to 12 seconds where you're basically just pissing ammo away and the mob is regenerating while your gun's hit-rate adjusts itself. Naturally, I get a bit excited when this happens when there's only one shot needed left to kill a mob.

However, I have also maxed the Opalo, and I can tell you for free that I am quite used to seeing walls of yellow now and then. If you'd like to see whether it's actually being unfair to you, please download and install the tool from "EntropiaLife.com", set the Hunting tab to your weapon, and go and do your hunts to verify that the hit rate is always about right, and when you go on a "lucky" streak that it self-corrects to maintain your hit rate, sometimes by forcibly having you miss a number of times in a row.

Understanding the way the tools you have work is important, but perhaps more important is to understand that while your hit rate helps you be more efficient in many ways, it is not what controls your loot either. I too have many friends on my friends list - some of them are older than me, some are younger than me. Some have deposited way more, some have deposited way less and are self-sufficient.

But I don't go "WTF" when any of them globals or makes money - and I don't believe there are necessarily lucky, or unlucky avatars. Everyone plays in a different fashion, and I think it's very important to realise that the WAY you play makes potentially a very big difference to what you get out of the game. And it's important to understand that loot has a LOT of variables too. Some of those you can control, and some you cannot.

Test and vary the things you can control, watch your loots, and so on. See if you can find something that firstly stretches your deposits out, and ideally in the longer term stabilises them entirely. But be prepared to do this repeatedly, as the one thing you can count on in EU is that a stable setup will change eventually.

And better luck out there, going forwards.
 
Sometimes in a casino a person who is losing his shirt has someone sit right next to him play one spin and that guy wins the mega jackpot. Usually the person who had been playing all day gets up and walks away in disgust at that point..... Its funny when you see this happen, or your the one spin jackpot guy, but it blows when your the guy losing your shirt.... In EU, you may actually lose your shirt when you tt it for a few more peds to participate in this non-casino virtual environment...
 
Regarding MISSes... this is my data from the current year:

Total shots: 257026
Hit Rate: 89.99%
Crit Rate: 2.07%
Max. Consecutive Hits: 100
Max. Consecutive Misses: 6

I have been complaining, like most people here, about excessive missed shots, because we tend to focus on the 6 (or 7, 8 whatever) clustered misses, but we tend to forget about those 100 consecutive hits shown above.

So, the pure facts show a hit/crit rate exactly on the spot of where we believe it should be, for maxed weapons without enhancers: 90% hit, 2% crit.

Now, are the clustered misses (and hits) generated programmatically by the code, or are they an statistical occurrence? no idea, and we should not care, in my opinion, as long as the overall hit/crit rate is fine.
 
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