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using entropia pocket when you dont own a mobile phone ?

The 2FA on phones is cheap and requires not much upkeep.

It might be time to get a mobile phone. You don’t even need to have a service, just get the device without a SIM card and have it connect to your wifi, even an iPod can do this, the Pocket app will work off that, and you will keep your no phones rule that you have going.

Also MA just assumes that if you own a computer and have enough stuff on your account to warrant protection that you are affluent enough to own a phone.
 
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nostradarmas said:
why have they made it so you need a mobile phone , just to play a game ?
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You don't need a phone to play the game but later on you will get hacked and you will cry about it when you lost everything and you will come back and complain about it and say that you would rather prefer to pay now 20$ for a phone to sleep well at night.
Old gold card still works but so is hunting for animals in the jungle with bare hands , just because you can do it doesn't necessarily means we don't have to adapt to the technology as it progresses
 
I don't have or need a smart phone or gold card to login... Can entropia pocket only be installed onto mobile phones?
 
Just get an android phone emulator for your desktop. Obviously less secure but its more than nothing.

www.androidauthority.com

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Svena said:
Just get an android phone emulator for your desktop. Obviously less secure but its more than nothing.

www.androidauthority.com

The best Android emulators for PC and Mac of 2023

We talk a lot about emulating PC experiences on our phones, but what about putting phones on PC? Let's look at the best Android emulators.
www.androidauthority.com www.androidauthority.com
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i TRIED THAT but there was problems .

1. some failed to install
2. those that did took ages to boot up
3. they was all massive over 1 gig once installed
4. I did not understand how to use the few that actualy installed
5. I have no more use for android emulaters than I have for a mobile phone or tablet
6. what was wrong with the GOLD CARD
7. why should I be forced into buying a mobile phone or a tablet ?

the whole idea of linking my account into a phone worries me , the phone could get broken , stolen , even hacked . I dont want any security linked to a mobile phone
 
aframo said:
Seriously...
Get a damn phone and adapt to the present
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reject humanity. Accept monke!

But @OP there are 'dumb' smartphones that would work.

I think th ebest option would be to look at doro phones perhaps or something sort of similar, yes they wont wint a beauty contest but if you just use your phone for phone stuff, and want it to las tlong with battery thats your bet.

also the future is not gonna slow down anytime soon, why someone don't want a smartphone is a little puzzling.
 
nostradarmas said:
the whole idea of linking my account into a phone worries me , the phone could get broken , stolen , even hacked . I dont want any security linked to a mobile phone
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You are overthinking this whole thing. Buy a burner phone, hook it to your wifi, download the app and do nothing else with it (no porn sites). Leave it on your desk. The only way somebody is hacking it is if the break into your house and steal it. Even if they do hack it, they still need your password.
If you break your phone or otherwise cant access it, you can set a one time override code that can be plugged into EU's website to temporarily bypass 2FA. Write it down and put it in your desk draw, nobodys getting a keylog of that.
Sure any system can be hacked but come on lets not be paranoid.
 
nostradarmas said:
the phone could get broken , stolen , even hacked
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If you are utterly incompetent , buy a brand new phone (cheapest) , glue it to your monitor so you can't lose it, don't plug it to internet and use it solely as a gold card reader.Store the phrase you receive from Mindark on the back of your phone written on a piece of paper or even more you can tattoo it on your fore head so you can see it in the mirror if you lose it if you are that bad.
 
messi91 said:
If you are utterly incompetent , buy a brand new phone (cheapest) , glue it to your monitor so you can't lose it, don't plug it to internet and use it solely as a gold card reader.Store the phrase you receive from Mindark on the back of your phone written on a piece of paper or even more you can tattoo it on your fore head so you can see it in the mirror if you lose it if you are that bad.
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What if someone break or steal his body?
 
messi91 said:
If you are utterly incompetent , buy a brand new phone (cheapest) , glue it to your monitor so you can't lose it, don't plug it to internet and use it solely as a gold card reader.Store the phrase you receive from Mindark on the back of your phone written on a piece of paper or even more you can tattoo it on your fore head so you can see it in the mirror if you lose it if you are that bad.
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glue is made by illuminati, they use it to track us in our homes and invade our privacy.
 
semiconductors are are the seed of all evil

mark zuckerberg cant wait to get our data,he and bezos plan to take over the world-order by building up theyr lizard army
the secret lizard elite forces currently operating from the depth of the capitol did build up mighty companys to gather all data they can get , mighty companys like "Apple" "Samsung" "Motorolla"
glad we got the allmighty elon who will safe humanity by enabling us to hide on planets faaaaar faaar away from the atomic war that will hapen soon
 
No need for any of that, just install Authy. It's available for Windows, Linux and probably more. It's been working fine for months now. It doesn't matter what program you use as long as it can handle the QR-image to read the important URL from. In other words, make sure you really save that QR-image somewhere safe and you can use it on as many devices as you want.

If you don't trust me but prefer to trust Svarog instead, well, fine, he told me about it :)

And feel free to look it up in this forum, several threads mention it, too.
 
Katie Chalmers said:
Also MA just assumes that if you own a computer and have enough stuff on your account to warrant protection that you are affluent enough to own a phone.
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I don't think it's largely a cost thing, but a security and privacy thing.

Firstly, this huge marketing push for players to switch to Pocket came just a short time after the cryptocurrency community developed and championed hardware wallets. The rationale for their use is that hardware wallets offer superior security to smartphone app wallets, because they do not operate on Internet connected devices. MindArk, shortly after, pivoted in the opposite direction, cramming smartphone app 2FA down players' throats at the expense of the Gold Card Security System, and they offered a much worse rationale than the cryptocurrency community (that smartphone app 2FA is similar to the security banks use, which doesn't do anything at all to assess the relative security of smartphone app VS hardware).

Secondly, people have good cause to be skeptical of anything smartphone related, because privacy guarantees on a smartphone are much lower and harder to manage than on a computer. This generalization might not be make or break in this specific case, since MindArk knowing players' real world identities in order to process withdrawals/deposits may already be a necessary evil. Still, we are amidst an ongoing, rapid entropy of the privacy guarantees promised to every Internet user by the Web 1.0 era, as the Web 2.0 era's desire for tracking and data harvesting overshadows it, and the steps required to take personal responsibility for salvaging as much of that anonymity as remains available can be a technical maze. I certainly don't fault someone for declining to own a smartphone as a way to lessen the need for having an advanced networking degree in order to protect their web anonymity.
 
aframo said:
Seriously...
Get a damn phone and adapt to the present
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Again, I would caution against conflating newer with better here. There are plenty of reasons MindArk may have switched security systems having nothing to do with improved security. It is well known that "nontechnical" aggregates of people overwhelming trade off both security and privacy for slight gains in convenience, and firms will adapt to suit this demand. Pocket IS slightly more convenient if you already own a smartphone, so if one discounts the other factors into irrelevancy, it enjoys some small but perhaps popular advantage over the Gold Card. Another reason could be that it reduces shipping costs for MindArk.

Also worth noting is that in the cryptocurrency space, which is the most security-conscious community I can name, hardware is actually the newer (and also more secure, as mentioned above) technology.
 
Maybe they want to know that you are not Pablo Escobar.
When you still install the app it asks you if MA will be allowed to see your contacts and photos, so it may be not that far off.
I did not tried to deny it and check if that may the app dysfunctional, but you can even try it.
 
Sub-Zero said:
How do you live without a phone in 2021?
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It's pretty similar to how you live without a phone in 2014 actually.

The only difference is that your question can occasionally act as a self fulfilling prophecy; if firms have an equally hard time understanding that people live without phones, they may make design assumptions which in turn marginally increase the complexity of one living without a phone. With that said, the Android emulator feature native to Windows 11 should decrease that complexity in many scenarios.
 
TheOneOmega said:
It's pretty similar to how you live without a phone in 2014 actually.

The only difference is that your question can occasionally act as a self fulfilling prophecy; if firms have an equally hard time understanding that people live without phones, they may make design assumptions which in turn marginally increase the complexity of one living without a phone. With that said, the Android emulator feature native to Windows 11 should decrease that complexity in many scenarios.
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I am using Windows 11 and you still can forget about that integrated Emulator, because you can only install Amazon Android Apps. I will bet on that they won't integrate this App anyways.
 
TheOneOmega said:
Again, I would caution against conflating newer with better here. There are plenty of reasons MindArk may have switched security systems having nothing to do with improved security. It is well known that "nontechnical" aggregates of people overwhelming trade off both security and privacy for slight gains in convenience, and firms will adapt to suit this demand. Pocket IS slightly more convenient if you already own a smartphone, so if one discounts the other factors into irrelevancy, it enjoys some small but perhaps popular advantage over the Gold Card. Another reason could be that it reduces shipping costs for MindArk.

Also worth noting is that in the cryptocurrency space, which is the most security-conscious community I can name, hardware is actually the newer (and also more secure, as mentioned above) technology.
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If also be willing to bet support time spend on faulty or failing Gold Cards (mine lasted maybe 5 years) was a lot more than any complications they had to deal with on the pocket app. That reader was kind of notorious for taking multiple attempts to get it to work.
 
robber said:
what is Mobile phone?
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nostradarmas said:
why have they made it so you need a mobile phone , just to play a game ?
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as far as I know they never enforced 2FA, it is if you want to protect your ingame assets, not "just to play a game", same as it was with the gold card

nostradarmas said:
what was wrong with the gold card ? no one ever hacked in to it ?
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you answered already ("my GOLD CARD keeps going out of sync"), it costs them and you time = $
 
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endermigne said:
No need for any of that, just install Authy. It's available for Windows, Linux and probably more. It's been working fine for months now. It doesn't matter what program you use as long as it can handle the QR-image to read the important URL from. In other words, make sure you really save that QR-image somewhere safe and you can use it on as many devices as you want.

If you don't trust me but prefer to trust Svarog instead, well, fine, he told me about it :)

And feel free to look it up in this forum, several threads mention it, too.
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I have Authy installed but I cant figure out how to use it instead of entropia pocket .
I am not a moron nor am a computer expert , I sorry but I dont what QR image is either ? why would I know these things when I have been using the gold card for years ?
 
honestly do your self a favour and buy a cheap phone , install the app on it and you are good to go....

like ... please just buy one
 
The gold card has been superceded. I'm also not 100% convinced by all this stuff but what we have now is industry standard, like the same as for your bank account if you use any online banking. For the game, you don't need any of these things if you don't use 2FA. You -should- use 2FA when the value of your account becomes more than you're prepared to lose in an eventuality. If that is the case, the investment in a basic mobile should be small in comparison, like an extra padlock for your barn door after you put a Ferrari inside instead of an ox.

Authy is a workaround but kinda defeats the purpose if you're running it on the same computer.
 
nostradarmas said:
I have Authy installed but I cant figure out how to use it instead of entropia pocket .
I am not a moron nor am a computer expert , I sorry but I dont what QR image is either ? why would I know these things when I have been using the gold card for years ?
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if you cannot figure it out, Authy is probably not for you
purpose of 2FA is to have a secondary means of authentication, meaning not the same device
having it on the same device, is a security issue, definitely worse than the gold card

gold card fulfils this role fine but it is a burden, additional token to be maintained (though Entropia is till maintaining the existing ones)
* for the company issuing it - choosing the solution, maintaining it
* for you - having to manage X hardware tokens for every secure use case, change batteries

it is great that Entropia went for the TOTP standard, meaning you don't have to use their application - can use many existing ones out there, Google Authenticator, Microsoft Authenticator, Authy, 1Password, etc.
can read more about the standard others already mentioned here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_One-Time_Password
 
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