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SHY

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What are the rules about the rep-system?
At the moment i am being stalked by 1 person and keep receiving negative rep-points on a locked thread by a repping-horny-lunatic. Someone who doesnt understand sarcasm and keeps assuming things. And who has too much of a ego to ask and understanding things because of a glitched chromosome :mad:
 

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It seems some EF members are confused about the purpose and proper usage of the forum reputation system.

Hopefully this guide will clear things up a bit.


Basic Overview

The forum reputation system is intended to allow members to provide feedback to one another relating to their threads, posts and contributions to forum discussions. If another member makes a particulary noteworthy contribution to a discussion, the reputation system provides a way to show appreciation. On the other hand, if a post is unfair, off-topic, inflammatory or otherwise objectionable, the reputation system gives the forum community a way to self-police itself.

The display of reputation levels in the member info and profile areas is intended as a rough guide of member's esteem within the forum community. This of course does not mean that the opinions or information provided by someone with a high reputation level is always accurate, nor does it mean that someone with low reputation should be ignored or belittled. When judging the value of a post or opinion, readers should put more weight on the content and logic of the content, rather than on who the author is.


When to give positive reputation

As mentioned above, members are encouraged to give one another feedback for thoughtful, constructive posts that help to inform the community and contribute to the thread topic. This helps create a more informative and positive atmosphere to the forum in general, and results in a more enjoyable and worthwhile experience when reading the forums.

When NOT to give positive reputation

The reputation system should not be abused. Friends should not dilute the purpose of the reputation system and regularly hand out +reps to their friends and society mates just because they like them. Positive reps should be given directly as feedback and thanks for meaningful contributions to the forum.


When to give negative reputation

If you find a post that is clearly off-topic, rude, inciteful, inflammatory, flaming or unfair, you should let the poster know this with a negative reputation comment, with reasons why you think the post in question was objectionable. In all cases, reputation comments are subject to the same forum rules as public posts.


When NOT to give negative reputation

You should not leave a negative reputation simply because you disagree with another member's opinion. If you have a strong disagreement, your views should be aired within the thread, so that others can read and comment in kind. You should not give a negative rep as revenge for a negative rep left by another member for you. You also should not make a campaign of leaving negative reps for members that you simply dislike, or have had differences with in the past.


Notes

All reputation comments are subject to the same rules as public posts on the forum. This means you should not flame, insult or threaten another member with your reputation comments. There seems to be a recent trend toward very hostile reputation comments. Such behavior will no longer be tolerated. Forum admins (MindBuster and myself) have the ability to review repuation comments left by members if a complaint is made. If any member feels they have been attacked in such a manner, please send a Private Message to MindBuster or 711 with the offending member's name, and we will investigate and take appropriate action.

Moderators and admins also make use of the reputation system, so members should not be surprised to see both positive or negative reputation comments from forum staff.
Now since you're talking about me I want to make some clarifications:

- I am NOT stalking you with -reps, just like I am not stalking anybody else with -reps;

- I consider -reps just the opposite of +reps, nothing more, so I consider it fair that someone to give, on average, about the same amount of -reps and +reps, so either being really reluctant in giving any (both -rep and +rep), either give them both like candies;

- I am generally giving -reps (or +reps) only for posts made in the threads I started or on posts directly related to me and not for posts made in threads started by someone else or not directly related to me;

- I am NOT giving you -reps (or +reps), but I am giving -reps or +reps to your posts;

- I also try to add to each -rep or +rep a meaningful feedback message stating why I gave you the -rep or +rep, so you can potentially know what to avoid doing in the future;

- That means that depending on your posts contents, you may get both -reps and +reps from me, many times within the same thread (actually that is true in your particular case and that thread and also that, if you made more than one post, then you might get more than one -rep or +rep; that also means that you may get a -rep even if I actually really like you, just as you may get a +rep even if I actually really dislike you;

- Since there is a limit of how many -rep or +rep we can give on a day, I sometimes have to keep a backlog of -rep or +rep that I owe to various posts and catch up with it later as the forum software lets me;

- If you want to -rep me (either as a retaliation or because you genuinely believe I deserve it) feel free to; in opposition to some of you, I honestly don't care and I would sure not run crying to mommy, daddy or other forum users to whine about it;

- If you are convinced that the posts for which I did negatively rate you were neither off-topic (that was the main reason for my -rep ratings), rude, inciteful, inflammatory, flaming or unfair and you consider that I actually abused the system, then I politely ask you to report me and I'm ready to face any judgment bestowed upon me by the forum admins or moderators;

- If the suggested reason for giving -rep and +rep would be changed (for example to no longer include off-topic messages as a valid reason for -rep) I would certainly stop doing it too; similarly, if any admin or moderator will tell me I misunderstood said quoted reasoning (although it seems to be crystal clear to me) I would certainly stop doing it;

- Otherwise, I am sorry for you, but I don't intend to stop doing what I consider to be my civic duty of punishing people posting
off-topic, rude, inciteful, inflammatory, flaming or unfair messages in my threads;

- I don't do it to piss you off, just like I won't stop do it because it pisses you off and I also don't care how much or how less power my -rep or +rep messages carry or how this affects you (if in any way); actually I simply don't care about you. I'm simply doing what I interpret as my civic duty of educating you and trying to provide you constructive feedback of why off-topic, rude, inciteful, inflammatory, flaming or unfair messages are not ok. It's not you, it's about me, more exactly about me doing my duty.

Btw, if you find more of your messages in the following list, expect further reputation messages (not necessarily all minus) since that's my backlog:
07-21-2017, 22:19 #109, 07-22-2017, 00:37 #118, 07-22-2017, 10:01 #133, 07-22-2017, 12:05 #136, 07-22-2017, 12:23 #137, 07-22-2017, 12:48 #139, 07-22-2017, 12:59 #141, 07-22-2017, 21:58 #150, 07-22-2017, 22:21 #152, 07-23-2017, 02:24 #156, 07-23-2017, 12:43 #170, 07-23-2017, 13:53 #171, 07-23-2017, 14:01 #173, 07-23-2017, 14:32 #175, 07-23-2017, 19:31 #178, 07-23-2017, 19:31 #179, 07-23-2017, 19:32 #180, 07-23-2017, 19:33 #181, 07-23-2017, 19:33 #182, 07-23-2017, 19:34 #183, 07-23-2017, 20:09 #185, 07-23-2017, 20:09 #186, 07-23-2017, 20:34 #188, 07-23-2017, 21:29 #193, 07-23-2017, 22:26 #194, 07-23-2017, 22:43 #195, 07-23-2017, 22:51 #197, 07-23-2017, 22:54 #198, 07-23-2017, 23:04 #199, 07-23-2017, 23:08 #200, 07-23-2017, 23:14 #204, 07-23-2017, 23:22 #205, 07-23-2017, 23:33 #209, 07-23-2017, 23:37 #212, 07-23-2017, 23:40 #214, 07-23-2017, 23:44 #215, 07-23-2017, 23:46 #216, 07-23-2017, 23:49 #217, 07-23-2017, 23:49 #219, 07-23-2017, 23:53 #220, 07-23-2017, 23:54 #222, 07-23-2017, 23:57 #223, 07-23-2017, 23:58 #224, 07-23-2017, 23:59 #225, 07-24-2017, 00:00 #226, 07-24-2017, 00:05 #228, 07-24-2017, 00:13 #229, 07-24-2017, 00:15 #230, 07-24-2017, 00:27 #235, 07-24-2017, 08:25 #246, 07-24-2017, 10:27 #248

Anyway, I have to say that I find it terribly funny how important these -rep things can be for some grown up people that claim they don't give a dime about me and about what I have to say. Almost as amusing as seeing the very same people criticize me for staying too much on forums when they actually post more than me in my own threads - lol.
 
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Interesting though that a multi-billion dollar business like Facebook, still doesn't have a "dislike" button, for obvious reasons.

I've "never" neg-repped anyone in forum, and quite proud of that to be honest. For me it's just not the done thing, if we don't like someones post, we can choose to ignore it.

I've a had few minus reps over the years, but I refuse to stoop to those levels.

Just because you might not like what someone is wearing that choose to walk on the same street as you, doesn't mean you need to confront them, and tell them how much you dislike thier outfit. Who does that actually benefit?

In my minds eye, a neg rep has only one purpose; and that's to boost the ego of the person handing it out.

I find control freaks, policing type people, curtain twitchers, people that can't live and let live, people that like bigger fines, bullies, socialists.... are generally the neg crowd.

hey-ho.... whatever.

Rick

edit: Not directed at any individual. I wrote this before any other replies. but got delayed triggering the post.
 

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This helps create a more informative and positive atmosphere to the forum in general, and results in a more enjoyable and worthwhile experience when reading the forums.
Obviously isn't happening.

If the intention is to demonstrate that the reputation system does not work to the stated ends, and force its removal... well, I'm all for it.
 

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Maybe it would be a nice idea to have the ability to rep be related to activities. In such a way that if the system can clearly detect it's being abused for trolling like in a way that you describe; multiple alike reps on the same locked thread by a specific user, it could get disabled or seriously nerfed for a(n extended) period for that member...

Also like continuous attempts to harvest rep abusing multiple gratz threads by solely bumping those in a row etc could be looked into...
 

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It looks to me as if a war has already been declared.

DoA vs.... well just about everyone as far as I can see.
True, pretty much time for the rep system to remove the neg rep function, like stated above, it doesn't do anything and it just gets abused
 

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Forum would be better served in the form of a subreddit anyway or entropia universe one with planets as subreddits.. but i understand why that isnt done.

Dont really care what DOA does, his rep power is laughable... ive gained 600 points after all the bs... that is if i cared about that.

What I do care about is this is abusing the system.. he has an axe to grind. I even care less about it all since he doesnt play. Just plays the forums.

Becareful what you start DOA....
 

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Maybe it would be a nice idea to have the ability to rep be related to activities. In such a way that if the system can clearly detect it's being abused for trolling like in a way that you describe; multiple alike reps on the same locked thread by a specific user, it could get disabled or seriously nerfed for a(n extended) period for that member...

Also like continuous attempts to harvest rep abusing multiple gratz threads by solely bumping those in a row etc could be looked into...
There are caps on rep, that is why he has a "backlog". Consider it a way to deal with abusers.
 

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I get -rep because i dont share the same opinion.
I get -rep because i didnt understand sarcasm.
I get -rep because i want to teach someone something.
I get -rep because i make a joke.
I get -rep because this person doesnt understand if i make a joke, if i am trolling, or of i am attempting to troll. And doesnt bother to ask me.
I get -rep because because this person just can do so and feels to do so.
I get -rep because i took efford trying to understand someone without getting something explained.
I get -rep because one of the answer was "OK" and get ignored for getting more explanation because i pointed out something in my opinion which was contradiction.
I get -rep because this person doesnt even take any efford asking me what i mean in anything i am posting.
I get -rep because this person plays a game which is not for this persons age... so this person is using a fake age to register anyways... information leads to someone and claims the this person is not that person AKA identity theft, fraud.
I get -rep because this person plays the boss of anarchy... but then creating rules like Hitler, and then acting like democracy.
I wanna give -rep to myself by creating an alt-account on forum to -rep myself.

Feels like a **** (just as overrated example) coming to your door everyday saying you must become ONE, because you: "Fill in any reason...". A "no" feels like a "yes" to that person. So he keeps stalking you because "its within the law and in the rule"

Feels like getting hurt on purpose by a icy snowball and when report to police your claim gets canceled because its not icy snowball, but its frozen water... and you get blamed for giving false information.

And soon i will get another -rep because i dont know:
Democracy on Anarchy, Dictator of Anarchy, Dick or Asshole... What ever...

Fuck my life on Entropiaforum.

Maybe i should get my account banned?
Because If this is called entertainment, i probably am on the wrong forum.
 
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And I am not stalking you; I just rate with -rep all messages from my threads that were falling under one of the expressed categories: off-topic, rude, inciteful, inflammatory, flaming or unfair (the vast majority of cases is for off-topic messages).

I know other people have different ways of handle the +/- rep and only use it in extreme cases, but the way I read the rules say that even simple off-topic messages deserve a -rep.

I dont need rules just use ur intelligence and common sense ;) and if i really need to neg rep the ones who deserve it hmm i would delete my account.

3 or 4 neg reps in over 10 years amongst them Sinofem, Maygar and 2 others.
Feel free though to neg rep me and join this small list of hmmm people lol.
 

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Wow. Are you serious DOA?
Sadly.. yes.. :scratch2:

I got a negative rep and some harsh words of being greedy in an RCE game from Doa because I like money and it's wonderful. Oh well you can't help everyone

Yet I couldn't be farther from greedy :wise:

Just some people don't know how to handle their forum addiction and refresh it every minute to comment on something else. These people have a name....

Anyways doesn't seem like Rep accomplishes much if one person gives out to much Negative Rep though they should probably be looked at and banned. By too much i mean more then 2 negative reps in a month. There really isn't a need to give out more then that.
 
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I get -rep because i dont share the same opinion.
I get -rep because i didnt understand sarcasm.
I get -rep because i want to teach someone something.
I get -rep because i make a joke.
I get -rep because i took efford trying to understand someone without getting something explained.
I get -rep because one of the answer was "OK" and get ignored for getting more explanation because i pointed out something in my opinion which was contradiction.
I get -rep because this person doesnt even take any efford asking me what i mean.

Feels like a **** (just as overrated example) witness coming to your door everyday saying you must become ONE, because you: "Fill in any reason...". A "no" feels like a "yes" to that person. So he keeps stalking you because "its within the law and in the rule"

And soon i will get another rep because i dont know: Dick or Asshole

Fuck my life on Entropiaforum.

@MOD: Please ban my account on forum.
Thank you in advance.
If this is called entertainment, i probably am on the wrong forum.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo nooooooooo ban! I like your posts too much!
 

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It looks to me as if a war has already been declared.

DoA vs.... well just about everyone as far as I can see.

Message: I must spread some rep around before giving it to Mega again. Dohh I tried :cool:
 

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I think a rep system similar to Ark forum's might work better, since it allows us to +rep for funny and sort of -rep for various stuff. Furthermore it's transparent as it shows exactly who does what rep.

Seeing the rep guideline by 711 as pasted by DoA, I should not +rep when I find a funny post....... and I have often done that.....

:(
 

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I think the Off-topic rule should be removed as a reason to -rep someone. Many threads end up going off-topic at some point if it is a discussion. Think of a normal conversation you have with a group of people face to face, how often does one sentence that is based on the original thought but slightly off the subject lead into another and another and then you are talking about something else only to revert back to being on the same subject.
If you read many of these forum threads this is usally what happens.
The only time the off-topic rule should apply as a -rep is in price check or selling threads. Any open discussion thread and it should not apply. Mods already lock down threads if they go too off-topic, no need for further action than that.

This would also solve the problem of DOA's backlog, meaning less work for DOA and less -rep for the rest of us.
 

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I think a rep system similar to Ark forum's might work better, since it allows us to +rep for funny and sort of -rep for various stuff. Furthermore it's transparent as it shows exactly who does what rep.

Seeing the rep guideline by 711 as pasted by DoA, I should not +rep when I find a funny post....... and I have often done that...
Yeah, that's exactly the thing.

Despite being some clear guidelines, people got the habit of using the rep system wrong and reward things that should actually be punished (like useless "funny" posts that are most of the time just off-topic messages).

Then, when somebody comes and actually plays by the guidelines and (tries to) do the right thing people get butthurt because they were used with using the system in a different way.

I will NEVER care what people think about me or what people feel about my actions. The only things I care about is (trying to) follow the rules to the best of my abilities and do what I consider to be fair so I don't end up with a guilty conscience. Other than that, I simply don't give a dime about anything or anyone else.



I think the Off-topic rule should be removed as a reason to -rep someone. Many threads end up going off-topic at some point if it is a discussion. Think of a normal conversation you have with a group of people face to face, how often does one sentence that is based on the original thought but slightly off the subject lead into another and another and then you are talking about something else only to revert back to being on the same subject.
If you read many of these forum threads this is usally what happens.
If that (rules/guidelines being changed) would happen, I would sure respect the new guidelines and I would stop -reping the off-topic posts, but as the guidelines stand now I consider that it is my duty to -rep any off-topic post (at least those directly related to me or posted in the threads that I started).

So I find it really, really, really strange and hilarious to be blamed for actually doing the right thing, as it is recommended by the forum administrators posted guidelines. But, unlike others, I don't end up crying and whining about that, but just being amused about it.
 
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Yeah, that's exactly the thing.

Despite being some clear guidelines, people got the habit of using the rep system wrong and reward things that should actually be punished (like useless "funny" posts that are most of the time just off-topic messages).

Then, when somebody comes and actually plays by the guidelines and (tries to) do the right thing people get butthurt because they were used with using the system in a different way.

I will NEVER care what people think about me or what people feel about my actions. The only things I care about is (trying to) follow the rules to the best of my abilities and do what I consider to be fair so I don't end up with a guilty conscience. Other than that, I simply don't give a dime about anyone else.





If that (rules/guidelines being changed) would happen, I would sure respect the new guidelines and I would stop -reping the off-topic posts, but as the guidelines stand now I consider that it is my duty to -rep any off-topic post (at least those directly related to me or posted in the threads that I started).

So I find it really, really, really strange and hilarious to be blamed for actually doing the right thing, as it is recommended by the forum administrators posted guidelines. But, unlike others, I don't end up crying and whining about that, but just being amused about it.
-repping someone because you dont understand, things are unclear, are assuming and not asking to that person what he/she means is right? People teaching you have to teach so you can develop? You are just negative repping people because you have a grey area? Wow.... well done! Jups, indeed... totally entertaining :yay:
 
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so this is, what she probably has a calendar for? :scratch2:

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.
:ahh:
 

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If that (rules/guidelines being changed) would happen, I would sure respect the new guidelines and I would stop -reping the off-topic posts, but as the guidelines stand now I consider that it is my duty to -rep any off-topic post (at least those directly related to me or posted in the threads that I started).
Are you apllying for a moderator position?

Please if so, tell me, then I will also ask for a ban from the forum. :laugh:

oops off-topic

Probably another -rep in near future from it.
 
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Are you apllying for a moderator position?

Please if so, tell me, then I will also ask for a ban from the forum. :laugh:

oops off-topic

Probably another -rep in near future from it.
No No No... this is MY thread. Because she went off topic... then you can do (for this time)
it's okay
 
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