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Teiwaz Storm

Teiwaz Storm

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Today I noticed strange thing with SIB on weapon, while checking my progress on X1.

SIB learning period on Dmg was over long time ago, but on Hit it was available just few days ago.
I still didn't maxed this weapon due to low HG skill, my HA is 8.2/10, also attacks and range is not maximum. But despite that SIB on Hit is finished!

Did i missed some changes in SIB system??

sib-no_sib.jpg
 
Was chatting to a newer player about the same problem earlier, he's raised a support ticket, make sure you do too :)
 
Blake Seven said:
Was chatting to a newer player about the same problem earlier, he's raised a support ticket, make sure you do too :)
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I wonder is this for 'lucky' ones only or general thing...
 
Teiwaz Storm said:
I wonder is this for 'lucky' ones only or general thing...
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seems to be for the lucky ones since none of my sib items are affected... neither (l) nor UL.
 
wasn't xt always bugged @ 51 attacks maybe they unbugged it and you just need more skills
 
mike jones said:
wasn't xt always bugged @ 51 attacks maybe they unbugged it and you just need more skills
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One I have is X1 not XT. Also I had learning period few days ago, so it had been changed in this VU.
 
yeah, i noticed the same issue on X1 today :yay::yay:
 
I would also like some confirmation on whether this is a graphics/text bug, or an actual bug that prevents us from gaining skill increase bonus, or worse yet an intentional "feature"


If I'm correctly interpretting this chart, http://www.entropiaplanets.com/gallery/pics/4/laser_carbine_sib_3866.jpg
sib_notyet.jpg

should say "Not Yet"

while....
sib_yes.jpg

should say "Yes"

If they have taken away skill increase bonuses, skilling will be pretty well intolerable.

(PS the forum doesn't seem to like image shack is there a link to posting thumbnails instead of giant pictures?)
 
Seeing the screens i would consider it a bug. Not anymore, but not even in SIB can't be intentional
 
yeah i saw that too, and its a bug. Always look at your HA/actual mining depth folks, dont get fooled by a "not anymore"!
 
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Blake Seven said:
Was chatting to a newer player about the same problem earlier, he's raised a support ticket, make sure you do too :)
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Since the "bug reports" section of the official forum doesn't seem to get an official response how do I go about raising a support ticket?

There was a small update this morning but the problem still persists.
 
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Soc mate also noticed this yesterday and has raised a support ticket.

They replied to him quickly and said it was under investigation.
 
Log in to the game websitewww.planetcalypso.com (with your in game credentials)

Go to Support-FAQ and chose 'Submit a Case' (or similar phrase) and fill out the details :)
 
Blake Seven said:
Log in to the game websitewww.planetcalypso.com (with your in game credentials)

Go to Support-FAQ and chose 'Submit a Case' (or similar phrase) and fill out the details :)
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Thank you for this, here is the response

Support ticket response said:
Hi,

Thank you for your report. I have forwarded the issue to members of the responsible team for further investigation. Any irregularities found will be adjusted. Please follow the News sections on the website for further information and developments.

Thank you for your patience.
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No word on whether it's just being displayed incorrectly or if there is currently no sib.
 
Strangebrew said:
Thank you for this, here is the response
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That's the generic response everyone gets.
The screenies posted above comparing two guns make the problem clear enough for even support can understand them so should be submitted! :silly2:
 
if its a bug its been around for 2 plus years. i seen it before while skilling melee and a few other things.
 
kosmos said:
if its a bug its been around for 2 plus years. i seen it before while skilling melee and a few other things.
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I'm 100% sure it displayed correctly before the last patch, and I'm increasingly certain that I am not recieving any skill bonus. There seems to be a big dip in the amount of green in the dialogue box.
 
Strangebrew said:
I'm 100% sure it displayed correctly before the last patch, and I'm increasingly certain that I am not recieving any skill bonus. There seems to be a big dip in the amount of green in the dialogue box.
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do you record your skill before and after a run with the skill scanner? if not then there is no real way to know cause green lines don't mean much. each message gives a different amount of skill. in other words you can get frequent messages and not even see progression or get 1 message and see progression. its a common misconception.
 
Mega said:
Soc mate also noticed this yesterday and has raised a support ticket.

They replied to him quickly and said it was under investigation.
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This investigation will take A loooooooong time because MA dont lose money on this bug.:lolup:
 
kosmos said:
do you record your skill before and after a run with the skill scanner? if not then there is no real way to know cause green lines don't mean much. each message gives a different amount of skill. in other words you can get frequent messages and not even see progression or get 1 message and see progression. its a common misconception.
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my level of certainty rising is not the same as me stating I know the algorithm's used and am measuring them, my skills (through the professions screen and as indicated by the progress % shown in the weapons interface) seem to have near stalled.
Thanks for your interests and concern.

It seems my grevious mistake was thinking the bug report subforum was for reporting bugs to developers and/or staff instead of raising the ire of malcontents.

signing off
 
SIB seems to have stalled or been nerfed again, I guess it will be impossible to get 10/10 on a better weapon now. I wish MA would stop holding us back. :mad:
 
The same applies to at least one melee weapon, Loughlin Cutter Two. My HA is something like 8.2 and I am above the minimum of SIB (about 7.2 swordsman hit) and it says "not anymore" to me as well.
 
Strangebrew said:
I'm 100% sure it displayed correctly before the last patch, and I'm increasingly certain that I am not recieving any skill bonus. There seems to be a big dip in the amount of green in the dialogue box.
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I noticed this 2 days ago and mentioned to anyone in earshot if they had a SIB glitch...The one player that answered said they didn't but might not've really looked, had the issure, or the thing they looked at was ok...

Some of the "stats" are correct: i.e. Opalo and Kiwio say not anymore and are in fact, maxed.
Others and dare I say all, are FUBAR'd. Weapons that i have no business trying to use are saying "not anymore" yet i am not even close to using, much less maxing.

Almost bought a gun, suprised that i was more skilled than i thought then noticed the actual "stats".
Pretty sure it applies to tools too.
Not sure if it is affecting everyone, but glad - not as in glad it's actually happeneing - that it's not only me...Thought I was going nutty and misunderstood this whole time.

I certainly hope MA didn't go on a drinking binge and decide to ferk with this intentionally. I rarely use SIB gear until i am damn near maxed and if they fugger it up I'll need a new way to judge my progress....

As far as skilling, perhaps...I KNOW i have seen some greenlines during my latest hunt, but cannot say if it was less than usual...Especially as it seems as random as the loot pool.... :/

Another "patch", another dozen bugs created and another 2 dozen left unfixed.
Fresh, exciting, YOW!








Tippin'
 
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I have lost all SIB on all weapons even ones I am barely qualified to use. I still have on my Hedoc S 20. As for whether I actually get the bonus I have friends in world who swear there is no real bonus and I should only use these after I am maxed on them. MA probably will never say. SNAFU

Candy
 
Note that there is no way of knowing whether this is simply a bug with the info text or if SIB is disabled completely.

Even in the worst case scenario, though, it's possible to skill up quite comfortably without using SIB. So it's not the end of the world.
 
Well unless it's just me, you are getting skills,,,Can't say if it's as much but it probably is.
I popped a few different profs in the last few days....
Although I am NOT maxed in some of the things I was before.

HOPEFULLY as Apple incinuated, it is just a text bug and has not affected the acutual skill system.

I can lean twords text bug as I 1st noticed this when Noob Club was introduced. As you may or may not have noticed, the Noob Club is limited but does not have the (L) in the main title.
Maybe, maybe not related....Who knows?

Haven't been able to login since this new "patch" so looks like MA was busy importing some more SNAFUs instead of fixing anything....
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Seen this many times on my items, it has been around for years. Dont know why though, just dont care I guess....
 
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