Konve
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There seem to be a lot of talking going on about these items. I think I have a pretty clear view of the matter and though I'd make this thread to put things straight. If you find I am wrong, please don't curse me because this VU is just as new to me as it is to you.
Now, here is what I posted over at the EP forum:
Any questions?
Now, here is what I posted over at the EP forum:
Konve said:Epictetus said:I think the new ESI system is very creative and makes a lot of sense, but as someone pointed out it will now cost real peds per "chip" transaction in lost TT value of the ESI.
Before, you could just put 1800 skill on a 80 ped chip but now 1800 skill might remove hundreds of peds in the tt value.
You used to be able to put 2000 levels onto a chip, but as aprox 10% was lost you really only put 1800 onto it but still lost 2000.
I will not cost PED to transfer skills to the chip. If you full half of a chip that had 1k ped TT from the start you will have one new ESI with 500 ped tt and one chip worth 500ped with the skill you extracted (btw, 500ped worth of skills is a lot)..
The old chips used to be 1ped = full. Now, 10ped of a new chip = 1 old ESI. So the fact that the old ESIs were replaced with ESI at 12,5ped was a clever way of Mindarks to make people gain a little something and forget to whine about all the other things. (If you didn't get it the replaced ESI can hold 125% the amount of an old ESI.)
No, if the old price for an ESI was 85ped:
85/10=850%
(NOTE: Mindark most likly made ESI (L) items as they would be traded as % wares and not TT+ wares - the ESI on auction now show up as % as well.)
The new price for one of the old ESI should be:
12,5*8,5=106,25PED.
I know some people have looted higher TT ESIs.
So, if you loot one where the TT is 300ped the price of it should be:
300*8,5=2550 PED 8)
And, if you manage a full TT ESI in an uber loot:
1225*8,5=10412,5PED
Note that one full TT ESI today (1225ped tt) was 122,5 ESIs yesterday (1ped*10=10ped ESI today).
And 122,5*85(if the price was 85 each yesterday)=10412,5PED
This change of course favor those who are selling out a lot of skills.
But remember, the tool decay to insert and extract a chip is now reduced 122,5 times. From 490 PED total to just 4 PED.
chielsen said:I don't know about the markup, but the esi decays now as u put skills in it. So you loose on inserter decay, esi decay + markup. So i think it will cost you now 12.5 or 9.9 (0.99*10) in decay on the esi to fill 1 chip. So if we would have old price, markup should be around 800% (8*10 = 80, 8*12.5=100).
Now lets see if the same amount total tt drops... When it stays the same, i think the markup drops, because no esi's are waisted now (partial chips).
Hmm, would be nice to loot a 1250 ped tt esi, worth 10k!!
Any questions?