EU: Entry ticket to ludomanie???

Ragna Rock

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I was never much into gambling... actually always passed next to the gambling booths and dens, never saw the thrill of a cassino, until a few years ago, when I went there for fun with my girlfriend...

This night I gained big, around 10k PED with 100 PED risk (since the gain was in euro and im not much into converting into dollar, etc... Ill give the amounts in a currency everyone understands here), after that night I went to the cassino from time to time, I always thouht that Im regulary well off, no big losses but if I gained I gained 2 or 3 times what I invested... it went like this for a year, the bets got bigger, also the gaines, and I didnt even understood that I have a problem until I got 200k PED on 12k invested.... someone would say "gratz!" but I saw the money dripping out of my hands day by day... Ive actually spend it in less than a month, im just glad that I didnt retrieve the full amount to the cassino, but spent the most on my girlfriend and familly. the rest amount... around 50k PED was sent back to the cassino... in 2 days... maybe it was more though Im not quite sure, since I didnt keep track of the money, just spent it... 2 days after Ive spent the last dime of the 200k my dad died... he had a brain tumor which caused a heavy bleading, he wasnt a rich man, and he didnt have any considerable savings so I had to scrap together what was left on my bank acc in order to finance a part of the funeral at least. As everything passed I was thinking that I can get the 200k again, so Ive lent some cash, lost it, lent some more and lost it, lent again, lost again... it was a rush to regain the lost money and to profit in the cassino, but it didnt went out like planned, my luck left me... In the end of the rush, having only the taxi cash in my pocket I was still thinking where to get more cash in order to finaly "profit"... next to me was a guy putting 1k PED after the other into a slot mashine, sweating,... not accepting 30k gaines to leave, just putting in more and more... I started to chat with him, asked him how his night is (he was sitting on the slot I was planing to get big on it), he said: "not to well, I just lost 300k PED this night)...

It made click in my head...

what did I expect to get, playing the same bets as him, with the 10k I might have been able to lend somewhere in order to play again.. when he was loosing 300k? I would have been just deeper in the shit...

recently... actually the past 15 days Im visiting a shrink, the diagnosis is PG (pathological gambling) my behaviour fit 8 of 10 symptoms, the rise of stakes due to depression, putting my friends, family and work on stake, lying to my surrounding, etc...
The doctor told me that the only way to solve this problem is to confront it, to see the results of what Ive done, and to tell people who are close to me that I have a problem...

My coming out, was different accepted... My boss for instance, the owner of the company for which Im the director at the moment is a man who understand the problem as an illness, but I asked myself to keep me away from any company cash for an undefined time period, since my thoughts have been going in the direction to lend from there...
My mother,... she became worried, but does anything to support me in this time...
My girlfriend... she continued to gamble, but keeps me away from it,... my and her gambling behavior is different, she is controling herself and I was risking big,
My friends.. they spend the days with me, and are happy to see that I stopped gambling sofar, and that I have no draw back, but seriously try to solve the problem, some of them turned their back on me, are disgusted by the amounts I played, knowing the situation home...

You might ask yourself why Ive choosen this type of topic?

well, let me explain you one thing...

I guess it was 5 or 6 years ago, when I logged in for the first time in EU... I was looking for ways to earn cash without depositing, since my income by than didnt allow me to invest anything...
I was playing small, and had a lot of luck, some called me the most lucky avatar by the time, since in my first month of playing I had a shitload of globals, a few hofs and 2 uberhofs, including a camo arms jungle stalker, a 1.2k PED maffo (we are talking about 2002)...
I played and lost, played and lost, always starting from the rags to bring myself up...
Than I had this great idea... I had a lot of influent friends in EU, people from top socs, my mentor was a master trader, who had also hughe connections, and we both had a great reputation for trades... we started to do comissioning...
we earned a nice amount of cash,... some of the deals we had are part of EU history, for instance the first ever looted formicacida scale. But than I fucked it up...
The trust of our clients has been so big that for instance I got personaly around 200k PED without colateral in order to buy a LA for a wellknown player without any collateral. He got the money back without 1 PED beeing missing, since I wasnt able to close the deal...
The fuck up:
Amps have just been brought to EU (mining amps), and I switched professions from hunter to miner, CND was also the hit...
than the EU gambling started... I was not skilled enough, but I was chasing my luck with OA103 and on CND.... spent all my cash... sold most of my inventory, sold most of my not mining related skills, and than done something Ive never thought about that Ive been able to do it...
I have lent 10k PED from a friend, in order to invest in a bussines, to bring myself up, but it hooked me again and I lost everything what was in my posession,, I was sure Ill get one of those uber hofs, if I only go for it...
didnt got it...
This was the first time gambling dragged me to the bottom...

I felt like shit, and still feel like it... since this was the most stupid thing I could have done... Not only that Ive taken the money from a client, ruining the reputation of my bussines and thus the bussines... I lost friends, many of them... I stopped playing, only waiting for the day to come back and repay what I owe... Even though I was scammed myself several times, last time during my 6 months break, where around 3k PED of my belongings is gone, including skills, armors and weapons... but I always saw it as the justice from above...

Ive never changed the avatar though, standing towards my responsibility... taking the blame...

But I also lied to the people who are close to me, in regard to the reasons why I dont have the cash... I didnt accept myself until 2 weeks ago, that Im gambling addicted...

And it all started here...

Like I said before... its 15 days ago, that I gambled for the last time... I banned myself from the cassino for the next 6 months.

Came back to EU to clean the bills Ive left, just need to get my bussines up again, and to deposit what Im able to depo.

Im not asking anyone for forgivness or understanding, just want to warn newbies who get big...

A big gain, if you dont control your temper, can be the entry ticket to gambling addiction... You are not guaranteed to get again a similllar amount, since this is a game of chance, you can make profit, if you play clever, and not dare to much, you need to calculate your budget, and never, but never sell your inventory in order to finance a run, but make your assets grow bigger from gains.... Hunt, mine, and craft in harmony with your skill levels, there is the biggest chance to profit in the long run.

The truth is, a bigger mob, amp, or bigger lvl bp are more likely to make you rich in a few clicks, but they are also more likely to ruin you in a day...

Please dont repeat my misstakes, since those can cost you much more than money...

Now the truth is finaly out...
 
interesting post thanks for sharing your tale.
 
Thanks for sharing
 
Good to see you got some help.


Maybe come sweat a bit at Nea's .. will give you another view of the game.



Bones
 
Sweating was nice as sweat was 3.7 PEC per bottle ;) Ill swim up, just had to post this for all the people who got affected by my ludomanie, and to progress with solving my problem
 
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Thanks for sharing, was a very interesting post.
 
Self control is one of the most difficult things in the world.
 
Very interesting post and thanks for sharing with the community.

I have to add though. Are you sure coming back to EU is a good idea. I don't think this game is good for anybody that has problems with gambling
 
Ouch:(

Sorry to hear that mate, gambling sucks unless you can count the cards or run a casino yourself. I had a similar phase when I was a 16 year old kid but luckily I was not able to loose too much as I had very little. Still lost it all and after that I decided never to gamble what I can not afford to loose. It's not easy, but it's doable.

Balkan Spies will be there for you, as always.;)
 
Very interesting post and thanks for sharing with the community.

I have to add though. Are you sure coming back to EU is a good idea. I don't think this game is good for anybody that has problems with gambling

I have only this way to check if Im ready to live like I used too, since going to the cassino or any other gambling den with cash in my pocket is a risk I dont want to dare...

My plan is to develop my bussines again, start earning IG and see if I can control my temper in order to utilise the profit into bringing more profit like I used too "froozen cash is the worst cash" like Lunar-PL used to say :)

This "other" life has so many relations with IRL, the behaviour you develop while playing is reflected to your normal behaviour patterns, for instance, someone who is only looking how to profit IG, will start to see possibilities IRL aswell, an IG scammer has the tendence to become an IRL scammer, even though the moral barriers are bigger. Thus I want to be back... I have to be back, in acordance to train myself to stop risking, to clear the tab I've left behind, and once I log out for the last time, to do it with dignity and not ashamed for something Ive done due to a wrong impuls at the wrong time.

My therapy is working great at the moment. While gambling I started to lie a lot, it became almost a necessity even if I had no reason to do so, since I started the therapy I force myself to tell the truth all the time even if the consequences might hurt, Im less stressed, less depressed, make better results at work (beside the director position I got in my company, Im also leading a sales team based on direct sales, recently my closing percentage rose to 35%-50% which is awesome :) ) and sort out problems which have been chasing me for ages...

Anyway... Ill bump up the thread from time to time to report changes during the therapy, I think this post will be a good lesson to people who suffer from PG but still dont realise it
 
My plan is to develop my bussines again, start earning IG and see if I can control my temper in order to utilise the profit into bringing more profit like I used too "froozen cash is the worst cash" like Lunar-PL used to say :)

I'm a "gambler" as well - 5 outta 10 in that questionaire.

I'm the type that
crafted shit on condition
mined with amp's
used ML35 and Doa SH @ rank 2 BLP (I would assume it was that - tho no ranks used...

Now I found that crafting with condition slider just dragged 1 mm and mining at MAX with OA101-light - and using korss, hl6 or my UnL HL8 for hunting - is the way to go.

Also, count the skills, and expect to lose 10-15% daily - and U can only be happy when counting 10-20 runs combined :silly2:
 
Thanks for the story.

Im sorry you went through all that garbage, but Im also glad that you saw what was happening and you sought out therapy etc.

I really hope that things pick up for you in the future and that this problem of yours goes away :D.

It takes a big person to admit they have a problem, it takes a bigger person to throw it up on to a forum like this.

Best wishes for you!
 
I have only this way to check if Im ready to live like I used too, since going to the cassino or any other gambling den with cash in my pocket is a risk I dont want to dare...

My plan is to develop my bussines again, start earning IG and see if I can control my temper in order to utilise the profit into bringing more profit like I used too "froozen cash is the worst cash" like Lunar-PL used to say :)

This "other" life has so many relations with IRL, the behaviour you develop while playing is reflected to your normal behaviour patterns, for instance, someone who is only looking how to profit IG, will start to see possibilities IRL aswell, an IG scammer has the tendence to become an IRL scammer, even though the moral barriers are bigger. Thus I want to be back... I have to be back, in acordance to train myself to stop risking, to clear the tab I've left behind, and once I log out for the last time, to do it with dignity and not ashamed for something Ive done due to a wrong impuls at the wrong time.

My therapy is working great at the moment. While gambling I started to lie a lot, it became almost a necessity even if I had no reason to do so, since I started the therapy I force myself to tell the truth all the time even if the consequences might hurt, Im less stressed, less depressed, make better results at work (beside the director position I got in my company, Im also leading a sales team based on direct sales, recently my closing percentage rose to 35%-50% which is awesome :) ) and sort out problems which have been chasing me for ages...

Anyway... Ill bump up the thread from time to time to report changes during the therapy, I think this post will be a good lesson to people who suffer from PG but still dont realise it

Well mate, i hope it all works out for you. Im sure you can get your business up and running again.

I guess im lucky really, although i have an addictive personality, gambling has never really pushed my buttons. Sure its fun sometimes, but i've never had the buzz i get from other things.

Look after yourself :)
 
I'm a "gambler" as well - 5 outta 10 in that questionaire.

I'm the type that
crafted shit on condition
mined with amp's
used ML35 and Doa SH @ rank 2 BLP (I would assume it was that - tho no ranks used...

Now I found that crafting with condition slider just dragged 1 mm and mining at MAX with OA101-light - and using korss, hl6 or my UnL HL8 for hunting - is the way to go.

Also, count the skills, and expect to lose 10-15% daily - and U can only be happy when counting 10-20 runs combined :silly2:


Im the type that

-Hunted with doa LM, maddox IV+dante, Jag + 5b with less than 2.5k hg and less than 1k dodge or evade...
-Mined with OF105+OA103 on CND without CGA
-Crafted OA101 without BPC (on condition though)
-Didnt stop a run even when loosing loads
-Didnt want to use "mod" opalo - since it hasnt enough firepower
-was killing an atrox spawn in fresh repaired ghost + 5b, to get a total of 12 PED loot and 104 PED repair costs
-Mining pvp3 / 4 without armor, weapon, TP chip (I know, Im cool)
-Didnt want to talk about using any SIB, since they have been to slow :S (still loving my ep40)
-TTd loads of goblins, ep40's, lesser TP chips, and Shitload of ores :S

What have I done wrong?

probably everything....

But Im also the guy who:

- Played 3 years without depositing (active playing)
- finished my discipleship on HG without depositing
- got myself a doa lm, and other nice stuff... can you guess? without paying for playing
- comissioned for around 2 mil PED in total trade value in my active work period, probably even more, but thats what I can think of at the moment ( the last deal was 420k in total)
- ..................
- The one who lost it all... soc friends, clients, reputation, income source...
 
Well,... as times passes the pictures change,... most of the people are happy to see that I quitted with the gambling, some are still really, but really pissed off that I even started.

Ive been on such an work position that people have been only waiting for me to make a misstake, and I did it, they are blowing things up for their own benefits, and its really frustrating beeing at work trying to do the best you can and having to fight against rumours and bad attitude....

I decided to quit my job and make a fresh start, had this other job offer for ages, but felt to well in my company until recently, yesterday I accepted the new job and will change the company in 15 days.

Ive started to play EU more often, also trying to bring up my bussines ( see the siggie), in 3 days of inquires chasing I got around 1 mill PED worth in deals to close including:

For SALE: Shadow m (sup. feet), eon m (no feet), DOA Foeripper, UL OA103 - Still Pending inquires: LA N of Nate - Atrox Land, 4 trox dna, NE of Nate Longu Land (420k)
To BUY: Mod fap, LA (up to 500k PED dependant on LA), shadow thighs m, and shadow feet m

closed the first small scale deals aswell, still waiting for my comission to be paid out, will document all the changes on my ped card and make it a project to earn as much as possible and develop a bussines in EU,

Status 09.08.2008

My current PED card status is 2.47 and I got a bunch of bps + kat honor
 
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doubble post :D
 
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