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This is a thread to not complain but to shine a light on what is being seen ingame and player retention.

I realize you need platyers to pay salaries at Mindark and progress game in many areas, including new engine.

Albeit, I have seen through updates many loot decline and in global chat..seriously, except EP4's ot ctafting..wouldnt move.

I suggest you really take a look at what made this game great before new implemntation of new engine.
I love the game but it is seriously need of some heros.

Just my 2 pec

take it or leave it..I'm cool
 
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I have seen many old players dip their toes into EU to see if it has improved or when new engine., only to retreat back out,

The botting and bullshit with avatars has made them not want to even try.
 

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I have seen many old players dip their toes into EU to see if it has improved or when new engine., only to retreat back out,

The botting and bullshit with avatars has made them not want to even try.
Agreed, but thats just my thought aswell
 

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This is a thread to not complain but to shine a light on what is being seen ingame and player retention.

I realize you need platyers to pay salaries at Mindark and progress game in many areas, including new engine.

Albeit, I have seen through updates many loot decline and in global chat..seriously, except EP4's ot ctafting..wouldnt move.

I suggest you really take a look at what made this game great before new implemntation of new engine.
I love the game but it is seriously need of some heros.

Just my 2 pec

take it or leave it..I'm cool
This game was great (15 years ago) because of the concept. The things te explore. The community.
But over time Entropia turned into a soulless grindfest.
Loot became more and more boring over time, HoF's less frequent en returns dwindled, unless you invested in crazily expensive weapons to hunt.
EP crafting killed the MU on the most common crafting materials en filled the game with brain dead casino gamblers.
Now also hunting became a zombie activity with bots and macro's dominating the game.

But hey, I guess for each his own. Some love it, others hate it.
If you don't know the history, you won't miss it. So I guess the newer players might not be bothered by this at all.

It's Entropia, it's dynamic, adept or die.
(And as I'm to old to adapt, I will let it die. The fun has gone)
But were one dies, the other rises. It's the entropy of the world. :rolleyes:
 

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This game was great (15 years ago) because of the concept. The things te explore. The community.
But over time Entropia turned into a soulless grindfest.
Loot became more and more boring over time, HoF's less frequent en returns dwindled, unless you invested in crazily expensive weapons to hunt.
EP crafting killed the MU on the most common crafting materials en filled the game with brain dead casino gamblers.
Now also hunting became a zombie activity with bots and macro's dominating the game.

But hey, I guess for each his own. Some love it, others hate it.
If you don't know the history, you won't miss it. So I guess the newer players might not be bothered by this at all.

It's Entropia, it's dynamic, adept or die.
(And as I'm to old to adapt, I will let it die. The fun has gone)
But were one dies, the other rises. It's the entropy of the world. :rolleyes:
I agree..The issue is the 'defeatest" attitude towards players as loot and botters seem to get the bulk of loot or able to continue, as seen in globals. A normal player paying into game, has no chance and therefore have a
75% return or if lucky or more.

I watch..caves are a dead giveaway, yet not dealt with as makes money for game but in the end is defeating to rest.

Really makes me sad 😔
 
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Mindark letting botting continue without any concerns is killing the game, OBVIOUS market manipulations and scammy traders ruin the game. Normal PLAYING players dont want or like that, they feel rightly soo to be the underdog and have a bad chance competing.
To few items for the low/mid player. (We dont want 2004 gear that we cant max until lvl 100......)
Stop making so many event all the time... its killing the general game, everything is about mayhem tokens and NOTHING about the game at all. It was better when items dropped on mobs or part dropped from mobs and you had to either sell the part or collect all parts to create the item, this makes it involve the auctionhouse, player to player interaction, competition and fun for everyone instead of opening loot boxes for rare token and grind 1 mob to get tokens so you then can buy an item after 3years.
 

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Mindark letting botting continue without any concerns is killing the game, OBVIOUS market manipulations and scammy traders ruin the game. Normal PLAYING players dont want or like that, they feel rightly soo to be the underdog and have a bad chance competing.
To few items for the low/mid player. (We dont want 2004 gear that we cant max until lvl 100......)
Stop making so many event all the time... its killing the general game, everything is about mayhem tokens and NOTHING about the game at all. It was better when items dropped on mobs or part dropped from mobs and you had to either sell the part or collect all parts to create the item, this makes it involve the auctionhouse, player to player interaction, competition and fun for everyone instead of opening loot boxes for rare token and grind 1 mob to get tokens so you then can buy an item after 3years.
Perfectly said!!!!
 

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Withdrawing isn't free, quitting is..
Yeah, but if I don't withdraw, I'm not really getting.
Not going to leave thousands of dollars here in game, if you don't mind.
In that case it's not quitting your account, it's destroying your account.

But I guess that's semantics.
 

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What game are you playing?
I have 21 globals for September and I am mostly hunting shared mobs and crafting.
 

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3 weeks into the game with a fresh character and 16 globals from shogg's on Monria :D

But i see what your point is and agree with it!
 

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Mindark letting botting continue without any concerns is killing the game, OBVIOUS market manipulations and scammy traders ruin the game. Normal PLAYING players dont want or like that, they feel rightly soo to be the underdog and have a bad chance competing.
To few items for the low/mid player. (We dont want 2004 gear that we cant max until lvl 100......)
Stop making so many event all the time... its killing the general game, everything is about mayhem tokens and NOTHING about the game at all. It was better when items dropped on mobs or part dropped from mobs and you had to either sell the part or collect all parts to create the item, this makes it involve the auctionhouse, player to player interaction, competition and fun for everyone instead of opening loot boxes for rare token and grind 1 mob to get tokens so you then can buy an item after 3years.
Agreed. Ive seen so many mining bots lately, even on Arkadia. Kinda kills the mood. And pls oh pls remove pyrite from Argus. It makes no sense to have pyrite in non lootable. Plus this actualy entices people to start using bots. Wake up MA!
 

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Albeit, I have seen through updates many loot decline and in global chat..seriously, except EP4's ot ctafting..wouldnt move.
Do you know how many losses lead to each of the ep4 globals?
 

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Overall loot isn't that bad, as in 75% bad I would say but we're in a slow period between mayhems when there's less activity, so less PED in the lootpool. It will pick up eventually. You can get good MU anytime really, just gotta move around a bit.


Some of the issues mentioned here really need fixing. Mining bots are printing PED at the expense of everyone else, they can get good MU around the clock, no need to amp or use L stuff, the fact that MA allows this is ridiculous. Also market manipulation has become so obvious it's just stupid, you see the same people buying stuff you try to bid on and resell it at higher price, or accounts with no EL history buying up high level items en mass and then reselling them at higher price or selling stuff that requires a lot of time to be able to craft. Or items that don't sell and then you see several different avatars trying to sell the very same item over the weeks - trading alts. MA should step up and regulate the economy I'd say, stuff like that should not be allowed to go on, it's bad for the game, when these shady characters are making PED, it's active hunters, miners and crafters that loose and we need more of those.
 

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t we're in a slow period between mayhems when there's less activity
Exactly one of the mentioned posts.
It became Mayhem Universe.
Why? Because most else is shit.
Is this healthy for the game?
 

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Overall loot isn't that bad, as in 75% bad I would say but we're in a slow period between mayhems when there's less activity, so less PED in the lootpool. It will pick up eventually. You can get good MU anytime really, just gotta move around a bit.


Some of the issues mentioned here really need fixing. Mining bots are printing PED at the expense of everyone else, they can get good MU around the clock, no need to amp or use L stuff, the fact that MA allows this is ridiculous. Also market manipulation has become so obvious it's just stupid, you see the same people buying stuff you try to bid on and resell it at higher price, or accounts with no EL history buying up high level items en mass and then reselling them at higher price or selling stuff that requires a lot of time to be able to craft. Or items that don't sell and then you see several different avatars trying to sell the very same item over the weeks - trading alts. MA should step up and regulate the economy I'd say, stuff like that should not be allowed to go on, it's bad for the game, when these shady characters are making PED, it's active hunters, miners and crafters that loose and we need more of those.

About market manipulation MA doesnt fuck around. Yes there are noobs that still do it but try to report everyone who is fishy or try gather more info ( look for more auction/sales they do and what names are involved before you report).
 
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Maybe these answers from the the LAN Club Q&A will help us soon.

Question: Any plans to look over the Explosive Projectile blueprints as they are making a lot of crafting materials and blueprints obsolete as people only click these instead?
Answer: Yes, this is being looked at and will most likely get changed in the future. In what way Mindark has no current answer.
Question: Any plans to remove a lot of the items and materials that are not being used for anything anymore?
Answer: Yes, with the swap over to Unreal 5 all the loot-tables will be looked at and changed, with that they will remove a lot of items not being in use anymore.
 

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Why? Because most else is shit.
There are MU opportunities on most planets right now in hunting, mining and even crafting, but it's not readily available so to spak, you gotta work for it, there's also the issue of space pirates which acts as a huge deterrent. In Mayhem you just need a good keyboard like Sulje posted the other day and MU will come by itself :p a lot of players also hunt there with regular keyboards tho. Point is, MU in Mayhem is right there you just gotta go and grab it, that's why many people prefer that playstyle and it's kinda understandable.

About market manipulation MA doesnt fuck around. Yes there are noobs that still do it but try to report everyone who is fishy or try gather more info ( look for more auction/sales they do and what names are involved before you report).
I tried reporting a few times, nothing happened I just got copy paste replies, maybe I didn't gather enough data but what am I supposed to do here, investigate them for hours instead of playing? Even when I complained about a pirate flying faster than me I got a copy paste response. MA are the ones who should regulate the game no?
 

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About market manipulation MA doesnt fuck around. Yes there are noobs that still do it but try to report everyone who is fishy or try gather more info ( look for more auction/sales they do and what names are involved before you report).
Such support cases end up in trash can, don't ask how I know :) Waste of personal time and energy to gather info.
 

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This is a thread to not complain but to shine a light on what is being seen ingame and player retention.

I realize you need platyers to pay salaries at Mindark and progress game in many areas, including new engine.

Albeit, I have seen through updates many loot decline and in global chat..seriously, except EP4's ot ctafting..wouldnt move.

I suggest you really take a look at what made this game great before new implemntation of new engine.
I love the game but it is seriously need of some heros.

Just my 2 pec

take it or leave it..I'm cool
hey look there is new shiny print screen from new engine... :D ...
 

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Exactly one of the mentioned posts.
It became Mayhem Universe.
Why? Because most else is shit.
Is this healthy for the game?
kind a agree on mayhem universe..
 
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