Multipliers you get while mining

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Since some noticed that swirls are capped now,
I would love to see your results
So only 50+ ped globals/hofs

Not that I do not like the cap, I think its most fair.
The higher the amp
The higher the risk
The higher possible reward

So, if you get a swirl starting in September 2019, please let us know
 
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I honestly don't understand what you are saying. 50x + multipliers only, maybe. Lvl13 would give significant/plentiful at each find indoor, that's not a "swirl", even if graphically is.
 

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I honestly don't understand what you are saying. 50x + multipliers only, maybe. Lvl13 would give significant/plentiful at each find indoor, that's not a "swirl", even if graphically is.
I think this would be level 13 = 20 ped input. 50 ped global is a 2.5x mulitplier? Something like that?
 

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Using just the decay of the amps might be a bit misleading. Decay of finders should be included, especially since different finders have different decay and finder decay does contribute to the size of the find.

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Mainly it is to know the cap for mining amps now.

When using amp 2 I tested this for 6 months ... I can only get claims 13 - 14 - 15

So I'm wondering what is the claimsizes you get with the other amps.

I also believe that claimsizes give different outcomes depending what resource you get.

Hope this is more clear? :)
 
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I honestly don't understand what you are saying. 50x + multipliers only, maybe. Lvl13 would give significant/plentiful at each find indoor, that's not a "swirl", even if graphically is.
A 50+ ped claim gives a swirls = global/hof
 

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Using just the decay of the amps might be a bit misleading. Decay of finders should be included, especially since different finders have different decay and finder decay does contribute to the size of the find.

:tiphat:
Decay of finders/amps have nothing to do with this only the size of the claims what amp and knowing the finder is always good.
 
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I honestly don't understand what you are saying. 50x + multipliers only, maybe. Lvl13 would give significant/plentiful at each find indoor, that's not a "swirl", even if graphically is.
I do not think indoor will give much different, but glad you metioned this. Thank you
 

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Is clear now what you're asking, maybe edit to "maximum find" per level of amplification?
 

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Is clear now what you're asking, maybe edit to "maximum find" per level of amplification?
Thank you :)

Not maximum only cause I assume you can get 2 or 3 different claimsizes on every amp
 
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Decay of finders/amps have nothing to do with this only the size of the claims what amp and knowing the finder is always good.
Totally yes, st00pid me. Got side-tracked while posting, or something ate my brain... :eyecrazy:

What I meant was, cost of probes should be included, since there are different finders which use different amounts of probes, and the TT-value of probes used contribute to the actual cost of one drop (valid also with respect to enmatter/ore/treasure selection).
 

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Totally yes, st00pid me. Got side-tracked while posting, or something ate my brain... :eyecrazy:

What I meant was, cost of probes should be included, since there are different finders which use different amounts of probes, and the TT-value of probes used contribute to the actual cost of one drop (valid also with respect to enmatter/ore/treasure selection).
Ah yes :)

But like the Roctec-M1-LF that uses 30 probes = equal to 10 probes + 20 probes as the amp 2 so 0,50 ped / drop I'll put that under Level 2 amp.

But thank you for bringing this up :)

The resource will be mentioned so we can compare that also.
 

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max cap is
cost per drop * 300 planetside
cost per drop * 1500 indoor

Average is 20x or 30x planetside
Average is 60x in indoor ( i dont remind is long time but indoor miners if they want can give exact numbers)

Except if you are in big loss(below tt 95) in this case multi can be bigger that push up(yes above 100%)
and its based finder level and skill after this happen system going push you down util you get balanced

Have nice nigth its for 2019 .... in others years have other cap and usual mindark change this
 

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max cap is
cost per drop * 300 planetside
cost per drop * 1500 indoor

Average is 20x or 30x planetside
Average is 60x in indoor ( i dont remind is long time but indoor miners if they want can give exact numbers)

Except if you are in big loss(below tt 95) in this case multi can be bigger that push up(yes above 100%)
and its based finder level and skill after this happen system going push you down util you get balanced

Have nice nigth its for 2019 .... in others years have other cap and usual mindark change this
Thank you for reply :)

I'm looking for the claim size / amp to know where the cap is.

I do not think that if you are loosing/winning has anything to do with that, but only time will tell :)

I know this would be another discussion but my average TT return minus costs / year = between 110-115% and I'm still getting globals/hofs and I see the swirls as an extra thingy, not to keep me balanced close to 95-100 % again. These numbers are for amp 2 only.
 

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All with Lv 7

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Pyrite Stone 51 PED Thu, 05 Sep 2019 03:34:54


Dsec 30
Narcanisum Stone 740 PED Wed, 04 Sep 2019 20:02:57
Lytairian Dust 54 PED Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:59:28
Valurite Stone 60 PED Wed, 04 Sep 2019 02:07:27
Ignisium Stone 169 PED Wed, 04 Sep 2019 01:11:30
Lysterium Stone 262 PED Tue, 03 Sep 2019 21:10:43
Magerian Mist 52 PED Tue, 03 Sep 2019 19:40:22
Alternative Rock 169 PED Tue, 03 Sep 2019 07:51:56
Alternative Rock 63 PED Tue, 03 Sep 2019 06:31:49
Lysterium Stone 58 PED Tue, 03 Sep 2019 03:14:21
Lysterium Stone 56 PED Mon, 02 Sep 2019 20:30:14
Alternative Rock 148 PED Mon, 02 Sep 2019 04:29:07
Alternative Rock 63 PED Mon, 02 Sep 2019 02:51:49
Melchi Water 135 PED Sun, 01 Sep 2019 02:05:53
Force Nexus 134 PED Sun, 01 Sep 2019 01:13:46
 

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All with Lv 7

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Pyrite Stone 51 PED Thu, 05 Sep 2019 03:34:54


Dsec 30
Narcanisum Stone 740 PED Wed, 04 Sep 2019 20:02:57
Lytairian Dust 54 PED Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:59:28
Valurite Stone 60 PED Wed, 04 Sep 2019 02:07:27
Ignisium Stone 169 PED Wed, 04 Sep 2019 01:11:30
Lysterium Stone 262 PED Tue, 03 Sep 2019 21:10:43
Magerian Mist 52 PED Tue, 03 Sep 2019 19:40:22
Alternative Rock 169 PED Tue, 03 Sep 2019 07:51:56
Alternative Rock 63 PED Tue, 03 Sep 2019 06:31:49
Lysterium Stone 58 PED Tue, 03 Sep 2019 03:14:21
Lysterium Stone 56 PED Mon, 02 Sep 2019 20:30:14
Alternative Rock 148 PED Mon, 02 Sep 2019 04:29:07
Alternative Rock 63 PED Mon, 02 Sep 2019 02:51:49
Melchi Water 135 PED Sun, 01 Sep 2019 02:05:53
Force Nexus 134 PED Sun, 01 Sep 2019 01:13:46
Thank you and gl mining :)

Do not forget to add claim sizes pls :p

EDIT : First impression that I get is mostly claims 13-15 like I get with amp 2 also
 
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The biggest so far planet side with 105 was a substantial (15) on Reggea. Mostly greats with a naked milf planetside this year.
 

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Maybe we can put together a google sheet for this information - it'll make capturing what we need easy :)
 

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Maybe we can put together a google sheet for this information - it'll make capturing what we need easy :)
Sounds great :)

I use excel in my one drive all the time, can you look into that?
 
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I'll list two of mine. My biggest unamped was 970 PED, but I can't remember if that was before the mining rebalance where MA specifically said they made larger claims harder to get in order to bring the average claim size up / reduce variability.

19 Apr 2017
Ziplex TK120 Seeker (L) - Unamped- Massive (20) - Outdoor - Lysterium Stone - 970 PED

26 Jul 2019
F-106 (4 depth enhancers)- Terra 1 - Huge (18) - Outdoor - Ares Head - 534 PED
 

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I got 1900 ped lyst, last week , with DSEC 30 + 1 enhancer no amp and it was outdoor.
Dunno if that data help :)
 

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I'll list two of mine. My biggest unamped was 970 PED, but I can't remember if that was before the mining rebalance where MA specifically said they made larger claims harder to get in order to bring the average claim size up / reduce variability.

19 Apr 2017
Ziplex TK120 Seeker (L) - Unamped- Massive (20) - Outdoor - Lysterium Stone - 970 PED

26 Jul 2019
F-106 (4 depth enhancers)- Terra 1 - Huge (18) - Outdoor - Ares Head - 534 PED
Mostly visible with ore claims now and very hard to get a larger/multiplier indeed.

I do not think they change anything with enmatters (for now).

Getting less and less tiny's + nice runs on enmatters where ore runs are ... let's forget about that for now lol
 

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Dual drop ?
That doesn't really matter for determining multipliers. Enmatter and ore drops are independent of each other in terms of hit rate, claim size, etc. For that lyst hit for instance, you woudn't include the costs associated with the enmatter portion in the calculation.
 

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so you had a 616x multiplier after 08/26 not bad Gzz :)
Not sure it was 616x multi, about i used Dsec 30 seeker, what is a preamped finder. 1 drop ores cost 2 ped probes.
 
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