Thanks. None on AH at the moment though.This is a (L)-Blueprint from Rocktropia.
Regularly appears at the auction at 7-8 ped/click, yesterday it seems to be.
You’d have to craft tool bps on Rocktropia in order for it to drop.What drops this BP? No info on wiki. I'd like to get hold of one, but there's no rush.
Appeared at the Calypso Auction right now (30 clicks). Apparently due to this topic.Thanks. None on AH at the moment though.
70,000% MU. Either its not a very common drop or people are sitting on huge piles of them I'm not inclined to pay that much for a 30 click BPAppeared at the Calypso Auction right now (30 clicks). Apparently due to this topic.
This BP mu is closely equivalent to the current price of the [ROCTEC M1-LF Finder (L)]. With current MUs of BPs, Dianthus and Ignisium, there is almost no point in crafting yourself. Leave it for extravagant players. Let them fight among themselves for you. And just buy the cheapest at the auction.70,000% MU. Either its not a very common drop or people are sitting on huge piles of them I'm not inclined to pay that much for a 30 click BP
I'm mainly a miner so I'll mine up my own Dianthus and Ignisium. No problem. I'll do a run sometime on demonic detector or excavator and see what I get BP wise. Should generate plenty of residue at least.This BP mu is closely equivalent to the current price of the [ROCTEC M1-LF Finder (L)]. With current MUs of BPs, Dianthus and Ignisium, there is almost no point in crafting yourself. Leave it for extravagant players. Let them fight among themselves for you. And just buy the cheapest at the auction.
Not an issue. I'm not looking for profit. I get skills through the whole process (and a degree of satisfaction in doing it that way as well) and I'm intending to use the end result myself. Eventually.Mining your own resources doesnt make them cheaper.
Grinding yourself the BP doesnt make it cheaper either.
If you can sell to someone else, mats or an item, for better total margins, at a current state of the market, than the deal you are offering to yourself, it becomes an illusion of a profit.
In a static market this would be correct but in a dynamic market that includes time as an input you can't predict wether the opportunity is better one way or the other. You're assuming all conditions remain constant to show an outcome.Mining your own resources doesnt make them cheaper.
Grinding yourself the BP doesnt make it cheaper either.
If you can sell to someone else, mats or an item, for better total margins, at a current state of the market, than the deal you are offering to yourself, it becomes an illusion of a profit.
All conditions are constant. Open the AH and take a note of the prices. Thats your value for this given time.In a static market this would be correct but in a dynamic market that includes time as an input you can't predict wether the opportunity is better one way or the other. You're assuming all conditions remain constant to show an outcome.
Just do the math and you'll see that if the goal to obtain an item can be done by collecting resources for 3-5 clicks of a BP where you sell the others for profit or having a BP drop while you craft other items you sell for profit it can often be worthwhile collecting the loot yourself.
This is exactly what I'm saying you're proposing.unless you pretend that you can see into the future
No, im operating strictly over the info i have in hand as of right now. Mats in vs item out.This is exactly what I'm saying you're proposing.
No, im operating strictly over the info i have in hand as of right now. Mats in vs item out.
You are the one who is pretending to know where the market will be at the point you are finished gathering resources in order to:
1. Sell the surplus of items for asumed (by you) profit.
2. Sell potential side drops for asumed (by you) profit.
None of those can be quantified "to do the math". Anything can happen in between, you have no control over it and you cant predict it.
In other words: you are trying to judge the action by the quality of the outcome, not by the quality of the decision making.
Thats the core difference of crafting vs gambling.
I dont assume anything. I already told you twice. Idk why you keep insisting.You're assuming the supply and demand and therefore the market price remains constant through time. This is incorrect and a bad assumption.
We might have a very different concept of profit then.Anything you sell above TT value is profit.
You can pretend you have the info to calculate the true mean, but you dont. Only things you can quantify, as a user, is a "close enough" mean, which is really not that hard to figure out. And if the difference between crafting for profit, or not, has to rely on skill gain / possible lucky BP drop, you are gambling.It can all be quantified, formulated and produce a value against the rake. You can even include the skill gains if you want to get really into the depths of it.
I've done so myself, have the data points and have built my edge. There's a right time to buy, there's a wrong time and then, even for the same item, it can fluctuate between the two.
The argument you're making for opportunity cost is fallible in many scenarios and shouldn't be used as a generalized argument to buy vs loot.
I've done the math and calculations. I have the data points and formulas but I will not share them for free because they are literally an edge over 99% players.
The bottom line is it is not always a better deal to buy off market than it is to loot it yourself. You're a fool if you think so.
What does this even mean?Edit: Have you even tried to loot anything yourself?
What does this even mean?
You run from an argument.
It means you lack the experience. You don't know what you don't know.
Good luck out there.
One Trick MindYou run from an argument.
Your crafting stats are inflated by shrapnel gambling. Did you even craft the same amount of individaul items i did?
You have 1 page of globals over 2 years. Please, stop pretending.
If you cant beat them, just get personal.One Trick Mind
Apple named. Just stop, you're in over your head and out of your league.
There's nothing personal. You just don't have the information to make a proper argument.If you cant beat them, just get personal.
I see your crafting stats. I see you items on the AH. You have no league.
Do you have? With 20 crafting globals over 2 years? With 6 of them in gambling shrapnel and other few, like p20, with global on each success.There's nothing personal. You just don't have the information to make a proper argument.
Again making bad assumptions. You seem to not understand how time works.Do you have? With 20 crafting globals over 2 years? With 6 of them in gambling shrapnel and other few, like p20, with global on each success.
My logs, over last 2 months seen more action.
Idk how high you think of yourself, but numbers dont care about it.
My log is at 100k crafts. And i can read and interpret it properly vs someone who has troubles to understand basic concepts of gambling.Again making bad assumptions. You seem to not understand how time works.
I'm not going to share what took me countless hours to create, to the format, the recording the data building the formulas, etc just to win an argument when it's much more valuable than that.
Now stop, you're acting like a sniveling brat.