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Msturlese

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As i always say, Lootable and RCE are a wrong mix
and also the loss in time to go into space (even not considering lootable, takes time either to fly or to find a pilot)
so i welcomed the "teleport token" idea... (i DID before understanding mechanics).
today i decided to make a test wasting some PED to understand how it works.

BASIC: you can tele port between space stations at the cost of 15 teleport tokens. so far so good. an instant travel for a fixed amount of PED

a teleportaion token has a 1 ped TT soit is basically a 15 ped istant travel cost, some more than a shared warp, some less than a single one, half price than a pickup warp

tehn i checked the BP to self craft the item (self crafting is always cheaper than purchasing a manufactured product if not in some special cases (a dumb crafter selling).

the UL BP requires 1000 [Astral Fragments] to be pulled and is not always available... well its 2600 ped, can be amortized
the L bp (the one i used) is available on AH, so i took it to check what is with the crafting of these TOKENS
success rate is rather normal usual sib 95% return item i expect 43% return on "successful craft and 20% salvage

items are 4:
standard matrix, an easy tier 1 craft
1 nova 1 blazer
and 1 SCOTTIUM ingot priced at 2000%

SO instead of a FILLER as meterial some GENIUS posed a rare 2000% MU item of 0.40TT as component to craft this TP Token.

lets' understand it better
Click cost is 0.5 PEC for fragments
0.40 tt SCOTTIUM
0.60TT matrix
and TT output is expected 1/0.98 *15 = 15.30 TT value of the teleport with a small overprice of 30 pec

now the MU part
0.06 ped for matrixes
and a nice 7.60 ped for SCOTTIUM that is equivalent to 7.66 * 15 = 115 MU for a teleport service
making teh total cost be 15.30 + 114.90 = 130.20 PED to istant teleport from one space station to another

and this is without considering cost of the Blueprint

this is UTTERLY bad design of course, so
either
1. SCOTTIUM will fall to 103% being used as a filler like OIL and Lysterium
or
2. TP in space is a non funny joke made to give player a FALSE alternative to warp AFK to avoid stupid lootable

(i admit i expected the TP to be ONE token to be teleproted with a 1 ped cost to increase interplanetary trading
but this is just a sign of how a decent idea with a bad implementation can be totally useless because not even close
to actual service provided by players.

i will keep my crusade for free trading and levelled field between planets and quality of life :)

i HUMBLY suggest a theorycrafting chat with devs, i am sure that Legends, IVI, Alina, Auktuma and TJ
(just to name some i know) can help much more than i can to explain how crafting can be made better :)

EDITED : i expected it to be 7 peddish, like Monria to Caly as a total cost.
EDITED 2: New patch ZEROED Monria to Caly TP, GREAT NEWS for Horn of Zagol farmers
EDITED 3: This TP Token have on top of all the defect above also a weight Limit of 150 KG, making them UTTERLY USELESS even at lower prices (a naked avatar with some BP a couple of weapons and armor sets and even 10 candycanes is already 150 Kg.
 
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Some players cried for years about wanting interplanetary tps, many complain constantly about the lack of mu in the game. Here we have both 😅

Admittedly 130ped is a bit steep for an "instant warp" but considering it takes all the fuss out of contacting pilots , hoping they are online etc, it should still come with some decent mark up, which in turn helps the players who are generating the consumables.

(Idk how i managed to post this reply in another thread... but fixed now 🙈)
 
Balancing manager strikes again!

But seriously it's been discussed already and ND seemed to agree that the amount of tokens required for a teleport is excessive and needs to be reduced since at current prices the new mechanic is not feasible to put it mildly.
 
Msturlese said:
As i always say, Lootable and RCE are a wrong mix
and also the loss in time to go into space (even not considering lootable, takes time either to fly or to find a pilot)
so i welcomed the "teleport token" idea... (i DID before understanding mechanics).
today i decided to make a test wasting some PED to understand how it works.

BASIC: you can tele port between space stations at the cost of 15 teleport tokens. so far so good. an instant travel for a fixed amount of PED

a teleportaion token has a 1 ped TT soit is basically a 15 ped istant travel cost, some more than a shared warp, some less than a single one, half price than a pickup warp

tehn i checked the BP to self craft the item (self crafting is always cheaper than purchasing a manufactured product if not in some special cases (a dumb crafter selling).

the UL BP requires 1000 [Astral Fragments] to be pulled and is not always available... well its 2600 ped, can be amortized
the L bp (the one i used) is available on AH, so i took it to check what is with the crafting of these TOKENS
success rate is rather normal usual sib 95% return item i expect 43% return on "successful craft and 20% salvage

items are 4:
standard matrix, an easy tier 1 craft
1 nova 1 blazer
and 1 SCOTTIUM ingot priced at 2000%

SO instead of a FILLER as meterial some GENIUS posed a rare 2000% MU item of 0.40TT as component to craft this TP Token.

lets' understand it better
Click cost is 0.5 PEC for fragments
0.40 tt SCOTTIUM
0.60TT matrix
and TT output is expected 1/0.98 *15 = 15.30 TT value of the teleport with a small overprice of 30 pec

now the MU part
0.06 ped for matrixes
and a nice 7.60 ped for SCOTTIUM that is equivalent to 7.66 * 15 = 115 MU for a teleport service
making teh total cost be 15.30 + 114.90 = 130.20 PED to istant teleport from one space station to another

and this is without considering cost of the Blueprint

this is UTTERLY bad design of course, so
either
1. SCOTTIUM will fall to 103% being used as a filler like OIL and Lysterium
or
2. TP in space is a non funny joke made to give player a FALSE alternative to warp AFK to avoid stupid lootable

(i admit i expected the TP to be ONE token to be teleproted with a 1 ped cost to increase interplanetary trading
but this is just a sign of how a decent idea with a bad implementation can be totally useless because not even close
to actual service provided by players.

i will keep my crusade for free trading and levelled field between planets and quality of life :)

i HUMBLY suggest a theorycrafting chat with devs, i am sure that Legends, IVI, Alina, Auktuma and TJ
(just to name some i know) can help much more than i can to explain how crafting can be made better :)

EDITED : i expected it to be 7 peddish, like Monria to Caly as a total cost.
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It works as intended. 🤣
 
You forget also that there are a lot of warp capable ships on which players spend thousands of dollars to be able to warp themselves and warp other player too. The tokens were expected to cost more than a normal warp.
 
Scottium will come down in price... just wait
 
when a Scottium wil be 120% i will consider clicking itagain to reach a TP cost of 20ish ped
so far it is just another useless BP
 
Msturlese said:
when a Scottium wil be 120% i will consider clicking itagain to reach a TP cost of 20ish ped
so far it is just another useless BP
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I figure scottium and to tokens will settle 200-300%.
 
Msturlese said:
As i always say, Lootable and RCE are a wrong mix
and also the loss in time to go into space (even not considering lootable, takes time either to fly or to find a pilot)
so i welcomed the "teleport token" idea... (i DID before understanding mechanics).
today i decided to make a test wasting some PED to understand how it works.

BASIC: you can tele port between space stations at the cost of 15 teleport tokens. so far so good. an instant travel for a fixed amount of PED

a teleportaion token has a 1 ped TT soit is basically a 15 ped istant travel cost, some more than a shared warp, some less than a single one, half price than a pickup warp

tehn i checked the BP to self craft the item (self crafting is always cheaper than purchasing a manufactured product if not in some special cases (a dumb crafter selling).

the UL BP requires 1000 [Astral Fragments] to be pulled and is not always available... well its 2600 ped, can be amortized
the L bp (the one i used) is available on AH, so i took it to check what is with the crafting of these TOKENS
success rate is rather normal usual sib 95% return item i expect 43% return on "successful craft and 20% salvage

items are 4:
standard matrix, an easy tier 1 craft
1 nova 1 blazer
and 1 SCOTTIUM ingot priced at 2000%

SO instead of a FILLER as meterial some GENIUS posed a rare 2000% MU item of 0.40TT as component to craft this TP Token.

lets' understand it better
Click cost is 0.5 PEC for fragments
0.40 tt SCOTTIUM
0.60TT matrix
and TT output is expected 1/0.98 *15 = 15.30 TT value of the teleport with a small overprice of 30 pec

now the MU part
0.06 ped for matrixes
and a nice 7.60 ped for SCOTTIUM that is equivalent to 7.66 * 15 = 115 MU for a teleport service
making teh total cost be 15.30 + 114.90 = 130.20 PED to istant teleport from one space station to another

and this is without considering cost of the Blueprint

this is UTTERLY bad design of course, so
either
1. SCOTTIUM will fall to 103% being used as a filler like OIL and Lysterium
or
2. TP in space is a non funny joke made to give player a FALSE alternative to warp AFK to avoid stupid lootable

(i admit i expected the TP to be ONE token to be teleproted with a 1 ped cost to increase interplanetary trading
but this is just a sign of how a decent idea with a bad implementation can be totally useless because not even close
to actual service provided by players.

i will keep my crusade for free trading and levelled field between planets and quality of life :)

i HUMBLY suggest a theorycrafting chat with devs, i am sure that Legends, IVI, Alina, Auktuma and TJ
(just to name some i know) can help much more than i can to explain how crafting can be made better :)

EDITED : i expected it to be 7 peddish, like Monria to Caly as a total cost.
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Thats the result of not playing ur own game.


I did report this issue on day one of Release, it works as intendet and it is ment to be that way 🤦


I guess soon we can craft our own universal amo for 500% too because why not


By the way, you forgot to add that the tp Limits you with 150 kg while a warp is unlimited and u are still able to logout safe.
 
My I suggest MA stops inviting ND to the office. It's chaos every time. And weeks of withdrawal! And bad idea after bad idea after bad idea, like a crazy stream of meandering wallflowers in a river of melted chocolate that smells like Surströmming.
 
Aloisius said:
My I suggest MA stops inviting ND to the office. It's chaos every time. And weeks of withdrawal! And bad idea after bad idea after bad idea, like a crazy stream of meandering wallflowers in a river of melted chocolate that smells like Surströmming.
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I sugguest to unplug the servers from the power supply and Release us all from this Nonsens
 
It's not the idea that is bad, it is the implementation. On another thread someone asked if I'd wondered whether it might not be accidental. If so, then the further question is just how far the plans go and how cleverly designed to look like the screwups we have come to expect.
Given that space mining neatly avoids MA having to share revenues with anybody except for HM activity, would pushing to make this activity unattractive only be a short term plan, with a longer term plan being to revive it through balancing at a later date?
 
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