This is EU - Loot System

[rk79x]

Hi I hope i can free speak


After 5 years played EU and 10 000 $ depo , I leave this game.
I make statistic from all and watch over 200 player in Tracker for my statistic loot – depo.
and game analyze.
And YOUR LOOSE EVER.

My Story
First 3 years learning this game hunting mining and craft ever small and loose.
After 3 years and 8000 $ loose coming 3 Weeks heavy time , every day Hof s i go mining 100x Level 8 amp and hit 2 Tower s !! 40k Loot (10k Mu).
OK I think many back played and have Fun a 1 Year bad bad Time loose loose and Luck ? Lol.

I Analyze many many User Profile and read Forums and I think i can the game loot strategies

3 Loot Pools

1 . Personnel loot pool 2 . Game loot pool ( All user online share this pool ) minus EU need PED for Server Farm and people and win 3. ATH Jackpot Loot pool


1. This loot pool store 8-10 % from all loose PED ,minus DAC (AMP ,Finder,Gun , ...), minus ALL TAX (land ,auction) , crafting Items Mu all .

2. He he i say only snowball system normally Loss ever 10-30% from your PED + DAC + Tax + MU , When User online and PED risk.
In Summer loose 50-80% very high. Small User online

All user see this ,loose loose coming more on is loot high

3. ATH Jackpot .. I think EU studies the user accounts see 1. I user loose 400 000 PED
ah OK make good Depo or loose many PED (MU) become ATH 8-10 % from loose

Random ATH Jackpot many user online EU big win and say OK 0.0000001 % from win coming in Jackpot free for all .


So why become I 2 Towers in 3 Weeks from 8000$ depo old time many Users 10 % loose , high mu ores and items and I many mining and Trade. 80 000 PED cykle over 1 MIO PED ever small rar HOF coming all Store in 1 and make 300k MU ever unamp max level 2 for high mu ores.

AMP Mining or BIG Hunting for what ?? Coming often HOF reset 1. and 1. minus DAC
10k PED loose coming 1k loot is statistic ever so then not 20k PED loose 2k loot …
100k PED loose coming 10k Loot
See Tracker Statistic User have 1 MIO LOOT craft + ATH
And all RED crafter total Looser Personnel loot pool minus ORES MU lol , for 1k+ loot
20k Loose ! Thanks all
Skills and BP QR or Limet BP all self not more loot lol.




My Rules

1. Your mus loose for win , ergo loose many , small DAC no MU - mining unamp TT finder ,
mining no in TAX area , no astroid or HELL ( +100% DAC)
hunting small UL gun , craft lyst stuff

2. Your no need of HOF or big loot

3. You played 5-10h/ day - cykle max 1500 PED /day , your need 3-4k PED for start, why all online user share loot pool , EU check your personnel loot pool all 10 Days statistisc

4. When 4 weeks played and 10k PED loose 1 x level 5 or 8 amp Bam 50 – 50 % chance of 800-1k loot high mu ores

One little mining log from me 1000 Bombs unamp

Day1 Day2 Day3 Day4 Day5 Day6 Day7 Day8 Day9 Day10 tt loose

Loot in PED 811 751 903 705 690 1120 789 800 756 700 1975

Mu 182,5 169 204 159 155 252 177 180 170 157 1805

AH TAX every day 30 to 50 PED

Dac: reff/eva 20 19 25 18 17 35 18 19 17 15 653
finder

Max Claim 13 12 14 13 11 15 12 13 11 10

only Nik , Belkar , Gazz , Duru ,Nac , Kan , Redulit all Ores found ~ 122,5 % MU


4000 PED start After 10 Days 3177 PED Card

TT Loose 1975
Dac 653

No Land Tax

30 Days letter little globals on XVII 450 PED

TT Loose 9456
Dac 2300
+10 000 MU !!!!

2156 PED Card I go level 5 Amp Hit 898 PED

Next 6 Weeks only 500 Bombs little global on XV and XVI

I go Leve 8 Amp Hit 1125 Finsih 20k MU 2x Big , PED Card 3700

When 1k PED + Amp cykle self loot 10-30 % loose + Amp MU loose more and more .
A your name in HOF list often XV or XVI claim.

6 Weeks Argo Hunten 3000k loose 1k DAC
3 Big Leviathan 400 Hof

its ever self Prinzip , for win mus for every 1PED , 10 PED MU Make
For 1000 $ Depo become 1000 PED win HAHA

This is EU???

 

[Uvas]

EU is a game that costs you money to play. How much you lose is determined by you.

If you want to make money, you have to look at it from a business point of view, i.e., trading, land deeds, land areas, or planet partner.

 

[Ace Flyster]

I am quite confused

But aside from that, what is DAC?

Rgds

Ace

 

[MIND]

huh?

 

[dr3w]

What I just read?

 

[dr3w]

I am quite confused

But aside from that, what is DAC?

Rgds

Ace

I cracked it! It's DECAY.

 

[girtsn]

Prinzip , for win mus

Guess something close to German and then probably google translate? I mean "free speak" ftw, but then could still be locked for an alien language

 

[Serica]

Ok, so his English is less than perfect .. but I've seen worse, so how about we all get over that and look at what he's saying ? In short, it's his personal loot theory (we've all got one, don't we?) and as he says he's leaving EU, I guess it didn't work well for him.

His theory does have some problems, so far as I can see.
Firstly, MA have come out recently and said in plain English that 'there is no personal loot pool'.
Secondly, he's suggesting that ATH's are individually allocated by MA to big losers or big depositors. I'm certain that's not true.
He may however be correct in suggesting that loot returns are affected by the total player ingame activity. (ie lots of players/more ped cycled in a period = better overall loot returns, or perhaps just more big loots in a period?)

 

[Cly]

Thank you

Hi I hope i can free speak

... for posting your findings so far.
Always sorry to see someone wanting to leave, but thank you for trying to share your experience here.

Good/better luck for your next endeavour!

 

[Grandmaster]

1. It takes more than 10k USD to regularly turn a profit in hunting at a high level.

2. If you have this amount of money to work with or less I recommend buying land deeds and hunt off the proceeds.

3. I having only been playing since march 2011 but I can hunt small diakiba naked with my amped opallo, naked and never healing all day long and I make profits. Before this to build my defense skills I sweet hunted punies for about 1 year while I built a bank roll.

$$$ bounse tip.... If you have very small amount to play EU buy defense chips early if you plan on huntting for $$$.

$Grandmaster

 

[rk79x]

re

hi

dr3w

I read all your Post and your loose Azz Tower .-)

I think as Hardcore User coming XXV for You, When 1 MIO PED Loose or your many Mu make .-)
I can all TRacker Profil it is statistic

 

[girtsn]

Probably original language could have worked better since I really could not read it. No offence intended btw.
However let's assume Serica read it ok, so comment on the below

He may however be correct in suggesting that loot returns are affected by the total player ingame activity. (ie lots of players/more ped cycled in a period = better overall loot returns, or perhaps just more big loots in a period?)

I think this is quite obvious, and the coming migration event (and other events) are imho targeted against those inactive periods like August vacations, xmas, etc. However seeing how often events happen nowadays, something is not quite right.

 

[Svarog]

I never understood why people sell books how to become rich, instead of becoming rich themselves using those "techniques". But when someone says "I lost everything and here is how I achieved it" - the point of that I understand even less.

 

[dr3w]

hi

dr3w

I read all your Post and your loose Azz Tower .-)

No, I didn't yet loose it, and I will not loose it fully. Yes, I knew that I will dump most of it back, now I am at comeback phase. Though, I did some errors in process, but I can afford them.

I think as Hardcore User coming XXV for You, When 1 MIO PED Loose or your many Mu make .-)
I can all TRacker Profil it is statistic

This is I hardly understand, sorry. Well, also except XXV I have some more towers, as you can see.

 

[Serica]

...
I think this is quite obvious, and the coming migration event (and other events) are imho targeted against those inactive periods like August vacations, xmas, etc. However seeing how often events happen nowadays, something is not quite right.

So, you're suggesting there are too many nowadays ?

Back when I started (2006), I only recall a couple of regular MA events a year... LandGrab (which went thru a long gap without any), and Migration (around Summertime in the northern hemisphere).

Then about 2008/9 (roughly about the time the GFC was starting to bite) we started getting more events being introduced by MA. Double/triple skilling, Robot wars, Merry Mayhem...
Perhaps this was a reaction to falling player numbers ? Or perhaps it was simply in response to players requesting more content ?

In the past year, it does seem like there's something happening every other week or so.

How much is 'too much' ? I'm not much of an 'eventer' (other than WoF ofc ), I'm generally quite happy puttering around doing my own thing as the fit takes me, but I know others like the direction given by missions and events and wave spawns and so on.

 

[girtsn]

I'm suggesting there is too little natural activity (e.g. normal hunting/crafting/mining) so events are created much more often to attract at least some activity. I know many ubers playing just during events.
Guess this is no news, the user base is shrinking and everyone understands where that leads. This is why it is so disappointing to see money collected for marketing and then nothing really helpful happening.

So, you're suggesting there are too many nowadays ?

 

[dr3w]

So, you're suggesting there are too many nowadays ?

Just compare what happening now, and exactly year ago. Year ago there was EU BOMB - Space.

 

[mrproper]

I never understood why people sell books how to become rich, instead of becoming rich themselves using those "techniques". But when someone says "I lost everything and here is how I achieved it" - the point of that I understand even less.

Because selling those books is the actual technique to become rich. And then they become rich. What you need to buy is the next book that explains how to get rich by selling how to get rich books. And then the third book, how to get rich by selling how to get rich by selling books books. If you're still not rich then, give me a call. If you had problems following my words, re-read the OP to train your cognition further

Anywho, the game is free, but using the servers more costs you more, someone has to pay for the power usage, hardware, people, jobs, designers, coders, licences, testing, bandwidth, connectivity, etc. To think that your deposits will be returned 100% back ad-infinitum and the game still runs, is not something you should be surprised of.

And as we all know, TT returns are 90% overall in the long run and in the large player sample, expecting to spend 80.000 ped ten times over on playing and remain with nothing is again, not something you should be suprised of.

 

[Mr-Joey]

Guess something close to German and then probably google translate? I mean "free speak" ftw, but then could still be locked for an alien language

Even google translates better from German to English than this
I only can see ... high risk mining with amps.

 

[remontoire]

I'm suggesting there is too little natural activity (e.g. normal hunting/crafting/mining) so events are created much more often to attract at least some activity. I know many ubers playing just during events.
Guess this is no news, the user base is shrinking and everyone understands where that leads. This is why it is so disappointing to see money collected for marketing and then nothing really helpful happening.

Also, the "good loots" seem to be concentrated at events, so to get these, you need to take part in the events. What this does is shift more attention away from normal hunting and to events.

I'm not really sure if the user base is shrinking though.

 

[Kerham]

for win mus for every 1PED , 10 PED MU Make

Yes and no. I often thought at that. MU is often very easily trapped when becomes (again) ammo/bombs, which will result in (mostly) TT food/lyst/etc.. In most points I agree with what you say, if I understand correctly.