The Thriller WoF match BeNeLux vs Sweden of 7th May 2011 timeslot 1700MA

This is the scoring as i get it from my chat.log.

I hope i did not make any mistakes. Please correct me if i did.

My result is BeNeLux 544 vs Sweden 518 before the win bonus.

I looked at the HoF rule also because this influences the loot bonus greatly. I hope my interpretation is correct.

Hurrikane said:

HoF: Any HoF grants a double score for that kill.

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As i see it the points of the mob are doubled but not the loot that is counted for the loot bonus. The score is as i see it the points a mob gives.

Below column 1 is the excerpt out of my chat log
column 2 is the points
column 3 is the loot

Total loot BeNeLux 5576 PED
Total loot Sweden 5249 PED

The data is below:

2011-05-07 17:01:11 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support - TG -" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 148 PED! 3 148
2011-05-07 17:08:49 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Globster Mature) with a value of 65 PED! 7 65
2011-05-07 17:12:15 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Old) with a value of 66 PED! 8 66
2011-05-07 17:17:09 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Old) with a value of 70 PED! 8 70
2011-05-07 17:22:41 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Second Entity Generation 01) with a value of 61 PED! 5 61
2011-05-07 17:26:54 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support - TG -" killed a creature (Phasm Mature) with a value of 92 PED! 3 92
2011-05-07 17:28:20 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support - TG -" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 60 PED! 3 60
2011-05-07 17:33:51 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Old) with a value of 99 PED! 8 99
2011-05-07 17:35:17 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Furor Thief) with a value of 98 PED! 9 98
2011-05-07 17:37:50 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Combibo Stalker) with a value of 57 PED! 25 57
2011-05-07 17:44:32 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Frescoquda Mature) with a value of 51 PED! 2 51
2011-05-07 17:53:19 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Furor Worker) with a value of 53 PED! 6 53
2011-05-07 17:56:30 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Second Entity Generation 01) with a value of 51 PED! 5 51
2011-05-07 17:57:39 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 88 PED! 8 88
2011-05-07 17:58:46 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Second Entity Generation 02) with a value of 136 PED! 10 136
2011-05-07 17:59:37 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support - TG -" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 88 PED! 4 88
2011-05-07 18:02:36 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Cornundacauda Dominant) with a value of 102 PED! 1 102
2011-05-07 18:08:43 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 55 PED! 8 55
2011-05-07 18:12:16 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Dominant) with a value of 140 PED! 8 140
2011-05-07 18:14:04 [Local] [] Team "WOF Support BeNeLux team 1897202" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 62 PED! 4 62
2011-05-07 18:16:37 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Phasm Mature) with a value of 61 PED! 3 61
2011-05-07 18:17:58 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 54 PED! 3 54
2011-05-07 18:22:39 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Guardian) with a value of 131 PED! 8 131
2011-05-07 18:25:50 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 142 PED! 8 142
2011-05-07 18:26:29 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Provider) with a value of 69 PED! 8 69
2011-05-07 18:29:14 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 85 PED! 3 85
2011-05-07 18:29:25 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Provider) with a value of 103 PED! 8 103
2011-05-07 18:32:59 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 267 PED! 3 267
2011-05-07 18:42:06 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 52 PED! 4 52
2011-05-07 18:42:30 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 61 PED! 8 61
2011-05-07 18:45:54 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Phasm Mature) with a value of 56 PED! 3 56
2011-05-07 18:47:18 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 182 PED! 4 182
2011-05-07 18:52:31 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 254 PED! 3 254
2011-05-07 18:54:19 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support - TG -" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 78 PED! 3 78
2011-05-07 18:57:18 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support - TG -" killed a creature (Phasm Old) with a value of 64 PED! 3 64
2011-05-07 19:00:02 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Old) with a value of 65 PED! 8 65
2011-05-07 19:02:58 [Local] [] Team "WOF Support BeNeLux team 1897202" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 126 PED! 4 126
2011-05-07 19:08:01 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Provider) with a value of 146 PED! 8 146
2011-05-07 19:11:21 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Old) with a value of 162 PED! 8 162
2011-05-07 19:12:05 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 229 PED! 3 229
2011-05-07 19:13:27 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 63 PED! 8 63
2011-05-07 19:13:47 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 70 PED! 8 70
2011-05-07 19:14:08 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support - TG -" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 111 PED! 3 111
2011-05-07 19:14:43 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Old) with a value of 67 PED! 8 67
2011-05-07 19:21:22 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 83 PED! 4 83
2011-05-07 19:26:46 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 57 PED! 4 57
2011-05-07 19:29:18 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 199 PED! 4 199
2011-05-07 19:30:50 [Local] [] Team "WoF Benelux support team ATH" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 75 PED! 3 75
2011-05-07 19:34:28 [Local] [] Team "WOF Benelux Support SUF" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 339 PED! A record has been added to the Hall of Fame. 6 339
2011-05-07 19:42:59 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 61 PED! 8 61
2011-05-07 19:43:25 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 162 PED! 8 162
2011-05-07 19:49:18 [Local] [] Team "WoF Benelux support team ATH" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 64 PED! 3 64
2011-05-07 19:51:10 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 66 PED! 8 66
2011-05-07 19:52:33 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 51 PED! 8 51
2011-05-07 20:00:01 [Local] [] Team "WoF BeNeLux main 2011" killed a creature (Hogglo Old) with a value of 79 PED! 8 79

Total before bonuses 329 5576
Full variety main team 50
Full variety support team 50
Sweep 100
Total score before loot bonus 529
Loot bonus 15
Total score after loot bonus 544 BeNeLux

2011-05-07 17:03:03 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Frescoquda Old) with a value of 65 PED! 2 65
2011-05-07 17:04:48 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Globster Young) with a value of 60 PED! 7 60
2011-05-07 17:05:38 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 149 PED! 3 149
2011-05-07 17:13:53 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 135 PED! 8 135
2011-05-07 17:14:24 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 59 PED! 8 59
2011-05-07 17:19:10 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 59 PED! 3 59
2011-05-07 17:20:20 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Second Entity Generation 01) with a value of 65 PED! 5 65
2011-05-07 17:21:03 [Local] [] Team "WoF Sweden Support: PULVERJASSE!" killed a creature (Letomie Mature) with a value of 113 PED! 4 113
2011-05-07 17:21:18 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 52 PED! 4 52
2011-05-07 17:22:45 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Second Entity Generation 01) with a value of 250 PED! 5 250
2011-05-07 17:24:01 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Second Entity Generation 01) with a value of 58 PED! 5 58
2011-05-07 17:26:42 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 61 PED! 8 61
2011-05-07 17:28:03 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 58 PED! 8 58
2011-05-07 17:44:23 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 62 PED! 8 62
2011-05-07 17:45:57 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 58 PED! 3 58
2011-05-07 17:46:18 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Letomie Mature) with a value of 264 PED! 4 264
2011-05-07 17:49:02 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Letomie Mature) with a value of 175 PED! 4 175
2011-05-07 17:50:45 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 73 PED! 8 73
2011-05-07 17:55:28 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 77 PED! 8 77
2011-05-07 17:58:08 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 56 PED! 8 56
2011-05-07 18:06:35 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Combibo Stalker) with a value of 67 PED! 25 67
2011-05-07 18:13:36 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT ***SWR***" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 206 PED! 3 206
2011-05-07 18:35:50 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Cornundacauda Guardian) with a value of 80 PED! 1 80
2011-05-07 18:42:59 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Furor Scavenger) with a value of 66 PED! 9 66
2011-05-07 18:46:18 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 55 PED! 3 55
2011-05-07 18:48:20 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 52 PED! 8 52
2011-05-07 18:50:41 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 58 PED! 4 58
2011-05-07 18:53:24 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Furor Adept) with a value of 111 PED! 6 111
2011-05-07 18:53:46 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 87 PED! 3 87
2011-05-07 18:55:21 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT ***SWR***" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 119 PED! 3 119
2011-05-07 18:57:32 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 60 PED! 3 60
2011-05-07 18:58:47 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Second Entity Generation 01) with a value of 53 PED! 5 53
2011-05-07 19:03:50 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 52 PED! 4 52
2011-05-07 19:11:53 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Second Entity Generation 01) with a value of 51 PED! 5 51
2011-05-07 19:12:43 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Second Entity Generation 03) with a value of 69 PED! 10 69
2011-05-07 19:16:20 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 92 PED! 4 92
2011-05-07 19:18:44 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 373 PED! A record has been added to the Hall of Fame. 16 373
2011-05-07 19:24:15 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Old) with a value of 147 PED! 8 147
2011-05-07 19:32:47 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 50 PED! 4 50
2011-05-07 19:33:59 [Local] [] Team "WoF Sweden Support: PULVERJASSE!" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 51 PED! 4 51
2011-05-07 19:35:40 [Local] [] Team "WoF Sweden Support: PULVERJASSE!" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 83 PED! 4 83
2011-05-07 19:38:29 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 478 PED! A record has been added to the Hall of Fame. 16 478
2011-05-07 19:40:44 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 82 PED! 8 82
2011-05-07 19:41:15 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 55 PED! 4 55
2011-05-07 19:41:53 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 60 PED! 8 60
2011-05-07 19:42:55 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Frescoquda Old) with a value of 92 PED! 2 92
2011-05-07 19:46:22 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 134 PED! 8 134
2011-05-07 19:50:25 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 53 PED! 8 53
2011-05-07 19:52:07 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Letomie Young) with a value of 89 PED! 4 89
2011-05-07 19:52:53 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Phasm Young) with a value of 169 PED! 3 169
2011-05-07 19:53:11 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Letomie Mature) with a value of 53 PED! 4 53
2011-05-07 19:53:38 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN MAIN" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 53 PED! 8 53

Total before bonuses 318 5249
Full variety main team 50
Full variety support team 50
Sweep 100
Total score before loot bonus 518 Sweden

rhogenbe said:

Total score before loot bonus 518 Sweden

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Close u forgot the Susan

So its 529 vs 522

Hi Siam and all,

You have most of the stuff correct in your post, except a couple things on Sweden's score.

First, as Droops pointed out, Sweden had a Susan on one of their globals. This is any global which has a value of exactly 113 ped. This counts double for the points for that mob (not the loot). So in this case, that Letomie counts for 8 points instead of the usual 4 points.

You also list one global for Sweden which doesn't count. A 52 ped Hogglo that the support team got, so did not count:

2011-05-07 18:48:20 [Local] [] Team "WOF SWEDEN SUPPORT #21" killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 52 PED! 8 52

This actually makes the Sweden score 514 before the Loot Bonus.

Now, unfortunately for you guys in this case, the Loot Bonus is assigned based ONLY on the Main Team loot as specified in the Rules, not on the combined Main and Support team loot totals. So in this case, the Benelux Main team loot total is 2480, and Sweden's Main team loot total is 2744. Which means they get the 15 point Loot Bonus. See the quote from the opening post in the Rules Thread.

Loot Boost: In Group Stages only; given to the team with the highest TT value of loot from their Main Team globals during the Match. 15 points.

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So Benelux 529, Sweden 514+15 Loot Bonus = 529. We have the first tie ever in WOF.

Hope this clears things up. Thanks, Mack

Great effort teams,must have been a great match to be a part of.Good luck on on finding the eventual winner.

Yeah it was a great match. We were shaking with adrenalin at the end of the match because we saw our lead suddenly decline fast with the 2 HoFs that Sweden scored on the Hogglo.

Thx Mack that clarifies it. So we have an epic draw.
So it will be a golden global hunt then.

Cheers
Siam

Hi,


Yes was a crazy match.
We need all few hours after to drop the stress and adrenaline.
But its what we search in the Wof

Thanks all Wof organisation and special Thanks to Hurri
and all Judge

Mack said:

Hope this clears things up. Thanks, Mack

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It does thanks for all the effort

So, here'a how it's gonna play out :

Hurrikane said:

Hello Team BeNeLux.

In the unprecendented case of your tie with Sweden I had to consult the rules from the whole WoF. Although I thought that Support Loot was counted in these instances this has never actually featured in the written rules.

Therefore the standing rule in the event of a Tie is to offer both teams a choice of event to decide the tie.

The events are:

Golden Global

or

Last Man Standing.

Team sizes: Up to 12 Main Team, agreed with your opponents to be equal in size to theirs.

Golden Global: Hunt a selected Mob next weekend in a spare slot until one team globals on it. That team wins the 100 points win bonus for the tied match.

Last Man Standing: Teams of equal number face each other in a PvP ring next weekend in a spare slot. The last avatar alive claims victory for their team and the 100 points win bonus.

Both teams must agree to the decision.
Both events should be short

Mob for the Golden Global withheld until event start.

Please post in the judges thread once you and your opponents have come to a decision.

Thanks,

Hurrikane

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And here are some answers to some specific questions that have arisen...

Golden Global

If the teams had carried on hunting for 5 minutes, there's every chance that there would not have been a tie. This is the reasoning behind ONE global takes it. Also concerns were expressed about Cost. This also addresses that concern...

The 2 teams will be of Equal number, made up of Existing Main Team Members. Maximum team size will be 11, yes Eleven. This is so that there's room for an embedded Judge... But they Must be Equal sized. If one team arrives with 11 players and the other can only summon 7, then Both teams will go out with 7 members...

The selected mob will Not be from the Stage 4 mob-list. The mob selection will be announced Just before the teams set off to hunt it, Not before you choose whether to select Hunt or Fight... You will only be required to global Once and First in order to win the 100 points. However, be assured that the mob will be selected Very carefully so as to ensure a bit of a Challenge, and hopefully to guard against one team globalling in just a couple of minutes, although this is of course a possibility...

Of course, there Is another option:

Last Man Standing

In a Last Man Standing battle, 2 Equal sized team stand face to face in a ring and Blaze away til only 1 team has men / a man left... a Fort would allow for too much eunning ducking and hiding and would notbe in the spirit of a LMS battle. Hurri tells me he's prepared to consider fort use in later WoFs, but not this time. Rules is Rules, after all... Same for everyone...

If you feel that 22 people in the ring would be silly then Fine, agree a smaller team with your opponents, or only turn up with the number of people you want to enter.

It is considered highly likely that both teams will opt to Hunt rather than Fight, but the option is there...

So, you have your options. Figure out what you Both want to do From The Available Options and then post your agreement in the Judges Thread, please...

Oh, you may if you wish select a timeslot of 13:00 on Satuday 14th May if you wish. I can produce a Judge or 2...

And Good Luck

Why not just split the 100 points... it's a grop round so we dont realy need a winner... ?

There is allways room for a first... this time it was a tie... next time maby a ATH...