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    whats scary is were talking about this now.. wasn't the actual event in july 2019?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mspatterson View Post
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    whats scary is were talking about this now.. wasn't the actual event in july 2019?
    that's when the hack supposedly happened. then everyone, but mindark, PCF, and us, found out about it, until finally some friendly internet people decided to inform the masses via their browser products or security websites.

    then again, nothing happened for days and nearly weeks. which kinda isn't really what EU law says. (haha wordplay!)
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    I am not sure why after 12 years I am having to change my password.
    to be honest, i repeatedly had to laugh so hard at work, because of this single comment today, i can't even say...

    thank you sir, you made my day!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by mspatterson View Post
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    whats scary is were talking about this now.. wasn't the actual event in july 2019?

    It's unlikely that it's the only time it's happened, this one just happened to be discovered. If you go look at compromised pw lists on the dark web, there's a pretty good chance you have at least one password on one of them. These "is this site compromised" type of services are basically just continually looking for those lists and reporting on them. They aren't catching all of them.

    If you care about your account security (anywhere) you should simply change your pw frequently and don't use the same pw in more than one place; or better yet use 2FA wherever you can. The only "scary" thing in this thread is that this apparently isn't common sense for most people.

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    A breach is not the same as a hack. Most of you don't seem to realise that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oleg View Post
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    A breach is not the same as a hack. Most of you don't seem to realise that.
    It will be a hack when someone finds them in a MD5 database which have been collecting hashes for many years now and tries something with it. However, it is rather inconsequential in this context and should not be blown out of proportion, true. But it just shows something which in Swedish is called "nonchalans" (nonchalance). The word has quite a different meaning here than where I came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by San View Post
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    It will be a hack when someone finds them in a MD5 database which have been collecting hashes for many years now and tries something with it.

    The breach is more serious, since that means personal information has been exposed.

    It would be a hack if that's how they obtained the data (as opposed to negligence).

    Though it would be useful to discover how the data was obtained, the most relevant part to us as the users is that it was in fact a breach.

    Not sure why anyone would care to roll these into an MD5 rainbow table though (I think what you were implying), since nobody with even a basic understanding of security has used MD5 for passwords in the last 20 something years, so it would be relatively useless for almost all other sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detritus View Post
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    The breach is more serious, since that means personal information has been exposed.

    It would be a hack if that's how they obtained the data (as opposed to negligence).
    You can interpret this in different ways -- hacking into a somehow secured system to steal data vs. their admin accidentally letting it lie in the open, or hacking away at a tarball you obtained from somewhere and trying to harvest something from it. Let's not split hairs. The MD5 hint was taken from further above and I found it superfluous to comment further. There are people on both sides of IT security who approach it with the good ole "never change a running system" up to this day.
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